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For everyone interested if you can understand Punjabi, please watch this some audio issues but this is truly the best! Now I know how to leave body, I had incorrect understanding/assumption. I haven't left so far but I'll keep practicing daily now. Step 1. comfortable position, start Waheguru simran, saas giraas(as described in this video as well), aim significantly reduce the thoughts to reach chautha padh(turiya), call out Waheguru with certain belief that he is right there, with you, even all is Waheguru, call out with love and some bairag(yearning, craving) 2. If you can hear anhad shabad then start listening to it and full concentration, still hearing Waheguru with breath or in anhad shabad itself, if you can't hear anhad shabad go back to step 1, read more Gurbani, it will start eventually. 3. After hearing anhad shabad for some time now, with actual concentration(reducing thoughts even further and settling down in sehad ghar, forehead, house of mind), there you may get amrit as needed, the anhad shabad should keep increasing in sound with more successful concentration and lack of thoughts(you have separated from wind, thoughts and if a thought or 2 comes its easier to let go and stay in the chautha padh) 4. This is what was missing for me, your Waheguru should be going on inside now, so light, so subtle, body is very relaxed now, almost about to sleep, anhad shabad is quite loud, this is Naam, your aim is to take your concentration to like the sound, this is the marriage that Gurbani talks about, of Concentration(surti) with Dhun(sounds). Power of Naam is so much it is supposed to take you in(like entering sleep but you are barely awake, a bit of shock happens like electric shock). Now you have successfully left the body, it is not like astral projection, it is concentration entering sound world, marriage of mind's concentration to the anhad shabads(Waheguru's voice i.e Naam). The other side is a game of Concentration and sounds. I shall update as my own experience reaches closer, I'm working on the Step 4, electric shock info came from my father who was able to do the last part once. But do watch the video all is step by step explained.

Sat Sri Akal Great to know you have found Sikhi after going on various spiritual, philosophical quests, I too learnt some vedanta, upanishads, Bhagvad Gita and arrived back to my own roots. So my personal advice is learn from the Guru Granth Sahib as the primary source, there are many youtube videos that give a more deeper explanations than many translations. Also previously I could not read Punjabi so I fixed that and learnt it, it helps a lot and isn't as hard if one is trying to read Guru Granth Sahib and transliteration is given below. Some youtube videos/playlists in english I will suggest, there is always Basics of Sikhi(for Sakhis, some history) You will enjoy this as you have vedanta background, but there are many differences as well. Sikhism itself has the spiritual knowledge, philosophy and devotional all itself. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/panentheism/ sikhism IMHO is at least this. Most important part Sikhi gives is practical meditation techniques but the channels and videos I know are in Punjabi, you can listen to some Kirtan on youtube, there are submissions for that here. Other recommendation is obviously Dasam Granth which is by Guru Gobind Singh Ji. I've not read it but there's a book called Warrior Saints, you can find similar books on Sikh Empire etc In Sikhism Sangat(congreation, gathering) is given a lot of importance, so go to some Gurudwara, talk to some Sikhs there for guidance. Also we do not consider Guru Granth Sahib Ji to be just another book(it got the Jot and is a full Guru) so please take appropriate precautions like covering head etc when reading it, and don't just go by normal translations, try to see the deeper meanings etc. Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

Can this be re-uploaded please Thanks

Can't see it, re-upload possible?

Hi, do you know where this puratan saroop of Guru Granth Sahib is? Thanks a lot for the share! SSA

I just know of Ongkaar and Ekangkaar, first heard it here, not sure if same ones you are looking for Some notes I took from this video ੴ ikOankaar (to understand ^) ekankaar, oankaar ਏਕਮ ਏਕੰਕਾਰੁ ਨਿਰਾਲਾ ॥ ekam eka(n)kaar niraalaa (the one is unique) ਅਮਰੁ ਅਜੋਨੀ ਜਾਤਿ ਨ ਜਾਲਾ ॥ amar ajonee jaat na jaalaa || (undying, unborn, no caste, no entanglements) ਅਗਮ ਅਗੋਚਰੁ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖਿਆ ॥ agam agochar roop na rekhiaa || (unreachable, unfathomable/incomprehensible, no form, no features) ਖੋਜਤ ਖੋਜਤ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਦੇਖਿਆ ॥ khojat khojat ghaT ghaT dhekhiaa || (searching and searching I found it in each and every heart) ik is everywhere but no form (from Shabad Ramkali(raag), Dakhni Onkar, Ramkali Dakhni) ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਨੇੜੈ ਹਰਿ ਦੂਰਿ ਨ ਜਾਣਹੁ ਏਕੋ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਸਬਾਈ ॥ prabh neRai har dhoor na jaanahu eko sirasaT sabaiee || (God is near, don't think it as far away, that one permeates all creation) ਏਕੰਕਾਰੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨਹੀ ਦੂਜਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਏਕੁ ਸਮਾਈ ॥੫॥ eka(n)kaar avar nahee dhoojaa naanak ek samaiee ||5|| (there is only oneness there is no other, Nanak say's merge into the one) Monotheistic - one god and human like characteristics Pantheism(oankaar ~ aum) - god is everywhere, everything Guru Nanak Dev Ji Merged both, unifying, Ik is same as Pantheistic picture, neither Monotheism, nor Pantheism, closest is Panentheism. One is everywhere but not dependent on universe, an own individuality. This is the full picture given by ੴ . This makes the 2 symbols merged. What is Oankaar? comes from Om, Aum, ॐ Trimurty (creator, sustainer, destroyer) Oang, primal sound, primal vibration form, initial form of universe beingless form, Physical manifestation of non-physical, Oankaar is physical manifestation of Ekankaar. From nothingness(ekankaar, nirgun) to all(onkaar, sargun). Oankaar is continuing even now, all that there is and expansion. SSA

Thank you so much for the beautiful message filled with blessings, love and gyaan. You are absolutely correct in every line that you said. May we all keep getting more Naam daan. You are exactly right about deep love, may it keep growing and we jaap naam with more and more love. As you said he is more eager, Bhai Gurdas Ji had these beautiful lines Akal Sahai Thank you so much for welcoming me here on this great site and linking the thread, will go over all the gyaan. Will keep adding more info as I learn. This forum helped me since past many months when I was beginning my practical journey, many of this Sangat's past posts helped me in the journey and will remain ever grateful. Guru Ki Saji Nivaji Guru Khalsa Roop Pyaari Sadh Sangat Ji Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I agree with blind faith, simply loving and doing naam simran is best and supreme but don't just assume I'm talking about simply dreaming and astral world. I'm trying to follow Gurbani but using the interesting interpretation or khulasa done by Bhai Sewa Singh, I hear what he says, he quotes Bani and he is not talking about dreams and visions, that is all. There is only Truth, only Oneness, only Akal Purakh, yes all is within Hukum, high lows all him, even you writing and me writing all comes from+within+by Waheguru. Many people with blind faith may have incorrect idea about Akal Purakh, when Gurus and Gursikhs were literally able to see him Hadra Hadoor(nirakar, not saying some image here), all around and do Bhakti there what is even blind faith when one can see, hear nothing but Waheguru and I do not believe Sikhi talks about just blind faith but talks about experiencing Waheguru while alive and get out of reincarnation(equivalent to merging with Akal Purakh), but I'm new to most of this so can be wrong. I do believe Sikhi is practical, experiential and not only does one know by "Gyaan" and bhakti that this is illusion but also experientially. SSA

So I'm practicing daily, made early gains in terms of various experiences in meditation, even if one thinks they are far away I believe most just haven't tried it properly, so I'd recommend daily before sleep(or power nap) just trying to relax body(like really do it, little by little keep relaxing), dhyan state can only come from doing naam simran(breath + chanting) and listening to yourself(like minds ears, eventually some of the 5 shabads come here) otherwise there is no dhyan, beat the stage of thoughts, it maybe your breathing itself that might distract you, do it per breath with concentration and as you keep relaxing your body will fall asleep(it is astonishing and various Anand's can be felt which will feel unreal and amazing). Also I didn't read about this on the internet or from anyone this was an awakening experiences where I randomly meditated for 6+ hours(without simran, didn't know much about it) where I learnt that this was real and then saw 7-8 months later Bhai Simranjeet Singh talking about this as the right thing to do(a vidhi, technique), to me it is like Akaal Purakh waking me up from deep manmukh slumber, I was also able to sleep like 2 hours and wake up refreshed but eventually due to no naam simran I lost the avastha. I've experienced and witnessed my own body fixing itself(rare times painful to watch it stitch parts damaged in gym), quite blissful experience overall and makes it easy to do naam simran even at night(and now understand how 8 pehar is actually possible but so hard and intense, only in deep true love will one do it like that). I'm sorry but I do not agree here, I'm not trying to get Riddhi, Siddhi here, from what I have understood what Bhai Sewa Singh has disclosed using only gurbani is that we daily leave our bodies(I'm sure everyone here knows about Dasam Dwaar), and we may even get instructions there, drink amrit(hence mind wakes up refreshed), even rehras can be looked at finding the path back to where our mind enters body every day. So if you daily leave your body and daily come back only issue here is bhakti is low so we forget or drown in thoughts. The path here is to do 8 pehar naam simran or however max and this itself will take the mind to the gate of dasam dwaar and eventually there is prakash, none of this is outside hukum and I'd even argue this is the best karam, to wait outside the dasam dwaar outside thoughts, vichaar(given by 5 thieves), dhyaan always at feet of waheguru doing naam simran until there is prakash. Humai is significantly reduced so you do not want Riddhi Siddhi, there is barely you, like water in milk your mind slowly instead of feeling like a point in our head feels like immersed in something and can't point where it is/you are. I just haven't reached the prakash stage, real hukum according to me is to not forget what happened when your mind left and came back, what was the dhyan related experience of begumpura and not to go into random dreams by kaal(thanks to 5 thieves). Of course I'm new to all this, 1-2 years max, been researching many religions(left atheism and to spirituality) until realized what Sikhi itself was actually talking about, all practical from my current understanding and love it. Only bhakti, only purify mind, remove humai as that itself is false hood, agreed about deep love for lotus feet, I've not reached deep love state but I've been able to reach sehaj and do naam simran with some love as of now, I want the love to increase, even fear to be remembered. All that can and does happen is within Hukum and up to Waheguru. Yes I agree with what you said, I do not want astral projection as well just to not get caught up in dreams of kaal, agreed about messages in dreams want to retain it more due to naam simran one is ever present and aware, to actually remember where the mind went while doing naam simran and if possible take it to the right path while doing bhagti not having desires for any supernatural or cool experience, no haumai, vichaar. Yes craving experiences is bad and I did learn it the hard way but listening to shabads during meditation did enhance my experience, my aim is to only follow Gurbani nothing else. Thank you all for responding Sat Sri Akal

Hi this is my first post, I've been watching videos of Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala, Bhai Simranjeet Singh and Bhai Dharamjit Singh, they constantly point out this concept of being able to leave body, it does make sense to me, I wanted to know if anyone has been able to experience this? Not just like out of body experience but being able to go to where we all go at night, remembering all the instructions given on how to play the game. Regarding my experience and spiritual level, I've started recently after some awakening experiences. I am able to be awake while my body has fallen asleep i.e body is almost paralysed, mind is awake, I do naam simran but do not know how to leave body, similar to described in this video Also am able to hear some shabads(similar to which has been described in some old posts) and possibly 1-2 times naad but not sure if that was it or just shabad only. Thanks