vijaydeep Singh

Gurfateh Das is nervous!!

Gurfateh anyway das wants to know what did Baba Kaladhari Ji did during Freedom struggle ?Did he suported congress after Jaliyawlal Masacre? And what role did Akali Kaur Singh Ji of Kashmeer did? More info needed as they were not beofre 100 years from now.

Gurfateh Das is free from such sentance as yet.

Gurfateh Das is sorry to and take his comment back but das read it from a book when he was a child.Perhaps it was train to pakistan where it was writtan that before partition ranks of nihungs swell and Sikh state armed them and Muslims were armed by Fronteier Tribals and state of Bahawalpur. One more tihng over here that das did not endrose this thing either.What happened by Sikhs during 1947 is as Bad as what Banda did. Das has taken part in riots during 1990 when he was very young.They are more like civil war more when Muslims attack Hindu population.What happned in Gujrat during 2002 or 1984 were more a massacre then riots. Das is aware that at mnay places Muslim within Indian terrirtory shouted We took Pakistan Laughing and we will take India fighting. Hank Ke Liya Pakistan and Larh Ke Lenge Hindustan. Andn they unfurlned Pakistani Flag also. Sikhs or Hindu just reated of offense on them accrosss the border or say within country.In Bihar reaction was of Noakhali hindu massacre. Yet das agree that this shoulod not have happened but we should agree to our act and feel sorry for that as it was our fault that we got provoked. Das said more in way like Pope John Paul(last pope) agreed over the attrocities being done by them on native Amrecian. Das is agan sorry.

Gurfateh during 1947 partition.Ethnic cleansing in Indian Punjab as avenge to hamr inflected to Sikhs and Hindus on west side.

Gurfateh Indy Bhai kindly see pm das sent to you.Your points are good.But try to gain knwolged Bhai tSingh Ji and N30singh Ji are making. and keep up givng your comment .Panth will gain a good lot from debate which is been done on this thread.Akal Bless.

Gurfateh Das is just putting one personal opinion over here. Das has brotherly relations with Indy Bhai and TSingh Ji both.so das will tell only a few things about brothert Indy which will clear mnay doubts. Indy Bhai may not like many things from AKJ or Missioanries realted to Kala Afghana and he is rather follower of Baba Vadbhag Singh Ji. One point over here is that Brother Indy does not like Islams saying that thier is the only way which is correct. Das justs is trying to remove misunderstanding if it may arise that he is from AKJ or Missionary side.Das could be nearer to both gruops then Indy Bhai. Anyway as we have our Brother TSinghJi here.Das requests him to let Indy Bhai be thought something about true Islam as das is aware that Brother are aware of correct prespective of Islam like Javanmard. Due to fake Muslims our tendcy towards Islam becomes biased and we have aioment called Islamophobia.But in case of some Sikhs,they also act like bigot Muslims and our own impression also becomes Bad to non Sikh.Das is sure that Bhai Indy are not like that after reading his posts on Muslim forums. Das can only request him to read jaffernammah as it is in tranlitration of farsi to Gurmukhi both at www.gobindsadan.org and www.sridasam.org and we get correct picture of Islam as per our Guru.Guru was against fundmentalists Muslims and not all Muslims. Das is gaining a lot from healthy dialogue bet ween two Great Sikhs das is honoured to know.and das was just trying to remove if at all there is any misunderstanding.Das is aware that Bhai TSingh are intellectual gem and we should try to to take more knwoledge from him and this can imporve our life. Das can request same to Bhai Indy Singh Ji to try to learn more and more from Bhai T Singh Ji and that will further arm him aganst fake or psuode Muslims,who spread lies about Gurmat and against fake Sikhs also who act in same manner as fake Muslims do for thier faith.And das is aware that both das and bhai Indy Ji have had disccused about such Sikhs on some other forum. But for Das fake Sikh is still a Sikh and psedo Muslim still has term Muslim in that.We have to refrom them. Das repeats this thing about Bhai Indy Singh Ji that he is himslef not as hysterically pro Amrit as we could think.He is libral and himself anti to Fanatics so more like das.There was some sort of misquting in interpetaion or explation by him.Rest Sangat has to decide.

Gurfateh Das feels weak when does not eat meat.Anyway to digest meat one has to do good hard work else it may cause good lost of complcations.Yes if someone uses good lots of barin then also meat is good food. But always good to have great physical work to digest meat and oily or proteen rich vegitalbes also. Das's muscle tear dowen and meat repairs them due to das's doing martial Arts.In Shaster Vidya when actuly Sri Sahib cut hand,meat heals the wound faster. Had Misldar not meat eateres then scitifically it was not possible for them to recover from wounds of small or great holcauste(Ghalughara) so soon inspite of great wounds.So it is medicine.

Gurfateh Well Sikh Answer can cut and paste the replies already made over here also. But das is usre that Umar Bhai has not read Dasam Granth Sahib and Sarbloh Granth Sahib also. Anyway If Umar Bhai is homosexual and want to join Gurmat.Das has plans for him.Sikhism is as diverse as other forms of Islam. Like SikhAnwer may not eat meat but to convert Muslim to Gurmat,sect or order of Das can also let him have a few drops of swine blood in Amrit Sanskar,Das also ate beef(as das is convert from hindus but then it was with Das and missioanries). So das wants to say one more thing over here,That unlike our Brother Umar,who may not deem other Muslims as Muslims and be it Shia Sunni or be it Barelvi or Devnadis within Sunni,das see good lot of peacefull activty with thier Islam meaning peace. Over here preception of das is diiferent over faith then Bhai Sikh Answer but we deem him still as Sikh.and inspite some higly Islamic things das noted of Bhai Ummar,Das still will not disown hom of Muslimhood the way he may say so for other Muslims. Allah Hafiz. Let SikhAnswer keeps on answering Bhai Umar.Das support of AKJ is also due to such reason that when some disturbed mind try to spread wrong things,They do go to the same level of that distrubed mind and feel pain to answer the painfull issues raised bu distrubed mind. Over here das could feel the pain in mind of Bhai Umar,and das can again take form of old Hindutva but when Allah Allows. so das tells Uamr Bhai 4 after he writes 123 but he again repeats 123 without understanding the 4.Once mother of das had mental imbalence and by Mercy of Allah,she was cured.Same thing she did when she was insane. Regarding Halal issue.Das can ask one thing to Bhai Umar,Say during Jihad,if he is cought by jews and Sikhs alike what would he prefer onto himself.An inhuman Jhatka or human kosher simlar to Halal.Or das will call him Muslim buddies for Halal.

Gurfateh Nihung is corcodile of river or Amrit or eternity.

Gurufateh Guru of All is gurubar Akal.Let us all take refuge of all.

Gurfateh Five are five weapons in Daster of Nihung Singh,that five are our Peers.

Gurfateh Bhai Amardeep Singh Ji like Bhai Bundha ,Bhai TSingh and das all are Muslims.Allah Ho Akbar.We want all Muslims to be Muslims like us and even if they do not yet they are our brothers of differnt sects.

Gurfateh Well Singh Sahib here we go. In lottray we have chance or risk thing involived but in our case it is will of God. So it is deed of Akal and an wishing it is going to hepen confirmed. Then coming to Ardas,Bin Bolyan Sabh Kichh Janda Kis Age kiche Ardas.(Akal knows without you say all the things,in front of whom should we do Ardas) Jio Pind Sab Tiska Sabh Kichh Tiske Paas(Life and body are of that,all is with that(God)). Charan Pahul is more with Hindus and off couse still with Sikh orders of Udasis and all the more no more in Nirmalas.Guruship of Gurbani is there since start.So this is the unique was of unique Sikhs. holy Ghost is same as Ruh Al Quddus a state of person who after having Brahgyan has soul only left ie in him/her only mind of Akal lievs and self mind is no more.Das is usre that yuorself are moving towards there and das finds you much ahead of das. At present we no longer have any Ten Master,thier light can out from universal Light and went back like wave comes from sea and goes back there. There are instance of baptism when one person also carries it out.Das request Nirmalas brotherhood to put momre light on it here.Five may mean five forms of Guru to fight five vices.

Gurfateh Anser 1.Outword Amrit is proof of inward Amrit as in Guru Panth we do outwards also as we think in us say 5ks.. anwer 2.Inner Amrit in Tenth door is activated by Akal and is in all as in all Akal.So when Akal invokes innner then Akal only let world see the outword also. Anwer as per Sau Sakhi beofre Khande Bate Di Pahil Charan Pahil was there,it was dipping the water of Baptism in Rumala of Guru Granth Sahib and then proceudre carried out by such water. Anyway Baptism of Guru is more like Baptism by Holy Ghost(as in day of Penticost as per New Testment).So when they joined Sikhi,they were baptisedm and during Guruship light went unto succesotr Guru and lastly to Guru Panth.And First Master had it from Akal.Rather all got from Akal.

Gurfateh Das seconds Bhai Amardeep Singh JI, Wrong pseudo Muslims should be send to hell and let Sikhs rule the True Islamic World as we are the true Inheter of True Islam.

Gurfateh www.hindusikh.org cheack out this site and reply to false propongand if any at Sikhs sites or faroun of this site.

Gurfateh all wriitan above is Guru Panth.

Gurfateh Today perhaps we are going to have some celebration regardng Prakash of Dasham Granth somewhere in Bathinda district. Das could get that Dal Khalsa is against it and Damdami Taksal is supporting it. Das wants to have more info as info on panthic.ocm did look some what not balenced.

Gurfateh Britshers tried to the concept of martial race to let Sikhs be racial and do not spread in other parts as they have seen Sikhs doing rebellion in West UP,bihar,Bengal or assam,who all were native. most Jaats were Sultanis in Majha before becoming Sikh and they did cut thiet hairs.And had they been Hindus as we them in Abohar or say in Jammu or himchal,they undergo Mundan. In Haryan Rajsthan or west UP,das did not see any thing like Jatts by Jatta of lord shiva and so uncut hairs as per Jatts,Rather uncut hairs are more to do with Aryans or Brahmins and Anti Jain/budhist things.And Jatts as per western guys are more sythians.

Gurfateh We still have Dejdhari Guru,who baptised Tenth Master.That Guru is Guru Panth.It is at Pajvan Takhat,Talwandi Saboki,Bathinda,Hindustan. Guru anyway is Akal and in all forms.Khalsa as one form.Sabad Guru as one form. Even during the Time of Ten Masters,Sikhs like Bhai Mardana,Baba Sunder,Satta and Balwand,Bhatts all were Sikhs and wrote Gurbani.So Guru Panth was then also. Bhai Gurdas ,the first,say Guru became Sikhs and Sikhs became Guru. So since start,Akal Guru,teaches via Sabad Guru to Guru Panth.God is Akal so Khalsa one with Akal is free of time bound.So all are one and no change ever till Akal wants.

Gurfateh there is a need of Budhadal or Hajuri Sikhs should start baptism not only in all over India but in other parts of the world.

Gurfateh Last night das has heard that there was a deabate on Halal Jhatka issue between Sarna Ji and Calcutta Ji. Das wants more detail about that as he missed it. It was perhaps held at india TV. Das also wants to put that they wanted that it should be amrked on non veg food from hotels etc.if it is Halal or not.Someone told das that it showed that macdolands serves Halal in India(in UK it was not the same).Das wants to confirm that also. Anyway another Manmati thing das has seens that unlike in past during baptism at Sisganj Sahib Delhi,Singh were told to not to eat Halal and jhatka can be taken but at present Singhs are told not to eat meat. What went wrong? due to Three Banis of Dasam Pitah in Baptism,missioanries who are pro meat have stopped encouragind or even carrying out baptism and all ritualistic veggis have taken over baptism ceromany.More input on that si also needed.

Gurfateh Cloath on face reminded das of Terrorists/freedom fighter of Kashmeer demonstrating near Hazratbal. This Singh anyway is more like das in mind.

Gurfateh There is a lie in first post. Bhai Dharam Singh ji were not from Delhi/Inderprastha/inderpat.He was from Hastinapur(District Meerut).Some people did not know the dieffrance between Hastinapur and Delhi and mostly Punjabis tend to feel both the same.So when they write theri own fabricarted history ,they write Hastinapur as Delhi. To reach Gurudwara at native place of Bhai Dharam Singh Ji.Take Mawan road from Meerut.Ahead of Bada Mawana,from Ganeshpur turn towards Hastinapur.Enrooute on our right we find another raod to Saifpur.That leads to Bhai Sahib's Gurudwara.At Hastinapur we have place where he had stable/Astbal. Baba Harbans Singh Ji Kar Seva Wale from Delhi,did Seva there. From the house where weapans belongig to Bhai Saih wee found.People took baptism.But female jaats converts still manitained it.male restored to age old tobbacoo usagse so were out of faith. this gives us lesson to deaddict the person before converting.