GurjantGnostic

I don't use either of those definitions brother. I ask Guru NANAK DEV JI.... ਸਲੋਕੁਮਃ੧॥ salok mahalaa pehilaa || Shalok, First Mehla: ਮਿਹਰਮਸੀਤਿਸਿਦਕੁਮੁਸਲਾਹਕੁਹਲਾਲੁਕੁਰਾਣੁ॥ mihar maseet sidhak musalaa hak halaal kuraan || Let mercy be your mosque, faith your prayer-mat, and honest living your Koran. ਸਰਮਸੁੰਨਤਿਸੀਲੁਰੋਜਾਹੋਹੁਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ॥ saram su(n)nat seel rojaa hoh musalamaan || Make modesty your circumcision, and good conduct your fast. In this way, you shall be a true Muslim. ਕਰਣੀਕਾਬਾਸਚੁਪੀਰੁਕਲਮਾਕਰਮਨਿਵਾਜ॥ karanee kaabaa sach peer kalamaa karam nivaaj || Let good conduct be your Kaabaa, Truth your spiritual guide, and the karma of good deeds your prayer and chant. ਤਸਬੀਸਾਤਿਸੁਭਾਵਸੀਨਾਨਕਰਖੈਲਾਜ॥੧॥ tasabee saa tis bhaavasee naanak rakhai laaj ||1|| Let your rosary be that which is pleasing to His Will. O Nanak, God shall preserve your honor. ||1|| Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Maajh - 140ਮਃ੧॥ mahalaa pehilaa || First Mehla: ਪੰਜਿਨਿਵਾਜਾਵਖਤਪੰਜਿਪੰਜਾਪੰਜੇਨਾਉ॥ pa(n)j nivaajaa vakhat pa(n)j pa(n)jaa pa(n)je naau || There are five prayers and five times of day for prayer; the five have five names. ਪਹਿਲਾਸਚੁਹਲਾਲਦੁਇਤੀਜਾਖੈਰਖੁਦਾਇ॥ pahilaa sach halaal dhui teejaa khair khudhai || Let the first be truthfulness, the second honest living, and the third charity in the Name of God. ਚਉਥੀਨੀਅਤਿਰਾਸਿਮਨੁਪੰਜਵੀਸਿਫਤਿਸਨਾਇ॥ chauthee neeat raas man pa(n)javee sifat sanai || Let the fourth be good will to all, and the fifth the praise of the Lord. ਕਰਣੀਕਲਮਾਆਖਿਕੈਤਾਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁਸਦਾਇ॥ karanee kalamaa aakh kai taa musalamaan sadhai || Repeat the prayer of good deeds, and then, you may call yourself a Muslim. ਨਾਨਕਜੇਤੇਕੂੜਿਆਰਕੂੜੈਕੂੜੀਪਾਇ॥੩॥ naanak jete kooRiaar kooRai kooRee pai ||3|| O Nanak, the false obtain falsehood, and only falsehood. ||3|| Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Maajh - 141ਸਲੋਕੁਮਃ੧॥ salok mahalaa pehilaa || Shalok, First Mehla: ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁਕਹਾਵਣੁਮੁਸਕਲੁਜਾਹੋਇਤਾਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁਕਹਾਵੈ॥ musalamaan kahaavan musakal jaa hoi taa musalamaan kahaavai || It is difficult to be called a Muslim; if one is truly a Muslim, then he may be called one. ਅਵਲਿਅਉਲਿਦੀਨੁਕਰਿਮਿਠਾਮਸਕਲਮਾਨਾਮਾਲੁਮੁਸਾਵੈ॥ aval aaul dheen kar mittaa masakal maanaa maal musaavai || First, let him savor the religion of the Prophet as sweet; then, let his pride of his possessions be scraped away. ਹੋਇਮੁਸਲਿਮੁਦੀਨਮੁਹਾਣੈਮਰਣਜੀਵਣਕਾਭਰਮੁਚੁਕਾਵੈ॥ hoi musalim dheen muhaanai maran jeevan kaa bharam chukaavai || Becoming a true Muslim, a disciple of the faith of Mohammed, let him put aside the delusion of death and life. ਰਬਕੀਰਜਾਇਮੰਨੇਸਿਰਉਪਰਿਕਰਤਾਮੰਨੇਆਪੁਗਵਾਵੈ॥ rab kee rajai ma(n)ne sir aupar karataa ma(n)ne aap gavaavai || As he submits to God's Will, and surrenders to the Creator, he is rid of selfishness and conceit. ਤਉਨਾਨਕਸਰਬਜੀਆਮਿਹਰੰਮਤਿਹੋਇਤਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁਕਹਾਵੈ॥੧॥ tau naanak sarab jeeaa mihara(n)mat hoi ta musalamaan kahaavai ||1|| And when, O Nanak, he is merciful to all beings, only then shall he be called a Muslim. ||1|| Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Maajh - 141

Sounds unlikely. You have references?

You're not interacting with reality bro. God bless.

What does Gurbani say about Allah and good muslims?

This would be when you took the analogy there brother.

You could take the analogy there but I didn't.

You spamming videos isn't saying anything and if it was it wouldn't compare to Gurbani brohim.

I don't think nothing accurately summarizes denying Vaheguru Akal Purakh brother.

Looking at it generationally according to research, and having been some 13 generations since, at 3 children each, that's 1,594,323 descendants today per Guru Saibhan for a total of about 11 million descendants of Guru Saibhan...that all have to put that pride aside to become Sikhs..

Bro you aren't a Sikh any more? What's up?

If we had a c130 airplane.....and she comes in for a belly landing....and I run up and you're staring at the wreckage....and the left wing is broken...and you're just staring at it and then I say....well at least with the right wing busted ....it's kinda in balance at least.

What you're saying just consistently isn't based on what I said brother.

Charlotte academy, in Standwell?

Where friend? Sikh ubhar aSikh sangaro.

This is what I said.

What mistake?

Well brother. That is tragic. At least he didn't see real Court yet.

Hear it from Allah brother .. And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous. I trust you only insulted Akal in ignorance. Love you Jio.

Even bearing a death sentence potentially they absolutely hemorrhage members. That being said they breed and convert like rabbits, and they are on the rise in power, however this rise in power will help balance the other world powers. We should be growing faster and deeper and encouraging the Dharmi muslims to remain so.

Brother I think the British have a fundamental genocidal hate for you. Not the average British person on the street but the people that run the country.

ਪਉੜੀ॥ pauRee || Pauree: ਤੁਧੁਧਿਆਇਨਿ੍ਹਬੇਦਕਤੇਬਾਸਣੁਖੜੇ॥ tudh dhiaaini(h) bedh katebaa san khaRe || The followers of the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran, standing at Your Door, meditate on You. ਗਣਤੀਗਣੀਨਜਾਇਤੇਰੈਦਰਿਪੜੇ॥ ganatee ganee na jai terai dhar paRe || Uncounted are those who fall at Your Door. ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇਤੁਧੁਧਿਆਇਨਿ੍ਹਇੰਦ੍ਰਇੰਦ੍ਰਾਸਣਾ॥ brahame tudh dhiaaini(h) i(n)dhr i(n)dhraasanaa || Brahma meditates on You, as does Indra on his throne. ਸੰਕਰਬਿਸਨਅਵਤਾਰਹਰਿਜਸੁਮੁਖਿਭਣਾ॥ sa(n)kar bisan avataar har jas mukh bhanaa || Shiva and Vishnu, and their incarnations, chant the Lord's Praise with their mouths, ਪੀਰਪਿਕਾਬਰਸੇਖਮਸਾਇਕਅਉਲੀਏ॥ peer pikaabar sekh masaik aaule'ee || as do the Pirs, the spiritual teachers, the prophets and the Shaykhs, the silent sages and the seers. ਓਤਿਪੋਤਿਨਿਰੰਕਾਰਘਟਿਘਟਿਮਉਲੀਏ॥ ot pot nira(n)kaar ghaT ghaT maule'ee || Through and through, the Formless Lord is woven into each and every heart. ਕੂੜਹੁਕਰੇਵਿਣਾਸੁਧਰਮੇਤਗੀਐ॥ kooRahu kare vinaas dharame tageeaai || One is destroyed through falsehood; through righteousness, one prospers. ਜਿਤੁਜਿਤੁਲਾਇਹਿਆਪਿਤਿਤੁਤਿਤੁਲਗੀਐ॥੨॥ jit jit laieh aap tit tit lageeaai ||2|| Whatever the Lord links him to, to that he is linked. ||2|| Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Gujri - 518

I will agree that there is something lacking from their practices that often times leaves them short of practicing Dharam. And the perhaps we should write books for them from a dharmic perspective on what they are holding. But the message of our beloveds is clear that there is one God of whom we have all been talking.

Leaving God out of it I will agree with this brother that we as Sikhs would have militarily challenged both early Israelites Jews and Christians through much of their history on the battlefield for their behavior.

You're arguing like an atheist brother they're always mad at a God, that they don't believe is real, for doing things that they're mad that he doesn't do the rest of the time.... Let me explain like this the Molochites were practicing satanic ritual abuse, incest, child sacrifice, rape, homosexuality, orgies and worshiping demona for hundreds of years.... while Jehovah sent the messengers and messages to repent from their evil to deaf ears. When enough time had passed and none of these messages were heeded, the word was given to that they were to be wiped out. It was specified the male population was supposed to be killed. Now this could be a place where the Jews inserted themselves and kept the women and killed the men because they were a threat, even the boys, the young ones, the babies. Or it could be that after 400 years of incest that the paternal haplogroup DNA of that lineage was entirely beyond repair and that it would not be healthy for them or anyone else to allow it to continue. Now it is reported that the Jews did not carry out the duty entirely. We now have a planet where narcissistic personality disorder threatens to destroy our existence. What if that type of genetic mutation is exactly what needed to be prevented from spreading? Whether or not what the Jews did was directly authorized by God, I don't think that there's any arguing that that group of people should not have been some way wiped out. And the same people that are mad that God wiped out a group of the world's most horrible people that ever existed, are the same people that are usually mad that God doesn't smite down every rapist murderer thief every child abuser. Humanity perpetually puts God in a damned if you do damned if you don't position, if you don't kill evil people they hate you, if you kill evil people they hate you. And it's not too far of a stretch to think that perhaps there's the influence of man and some of these stories and that the God of the Bible did not actually say 100% of the things in it. And that at the same time it remains not false as Kabeer Ji says. But to hate the God of the Bible that your religion loves is ridiculous brother.

https://www.sikhitothemax.org/search?q=allah&type=3&source=G&writer=all Brother I have searched through Guru Granth Sahib Ji for the name Allah. What I would like for you to do brother, is to do Naam Simran of VHGR while reading each and every instance of where the name Allah is used in our sacred and living Guru, and then I would like you to mentally change every instance of Allah to Jehovah bro; because the prophetic tradition of the Muslims comes from the prophetic traditions of the Jews and they share one God.