Trimandeep Singh

If we take every pankti of Guru Granth Sahib literally, then there be only misinterpretations. We need to interpret meanings of panktis on the basis of whole of Guru Granth Sahib Ji. And Daas has already quoted the pankti 
This is clear that there is only one Satguru ,that is, Satguru Nanak Dev Ji. 
If we take literal meaning of 'Guru' in all panktis of Guru Granth Sahib, then the basic foundation of Gurmat principles would cease to exist.
Don't take everything in literal sense, but in light of teachings of Guru sahib.
Trimandeep Singh 

@paapiman Today. I just read this beautiful pankti and it has solved all my doubts regarding the topic of who is giver of naam and liberation.
ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮ ਕਾ ਹੋਰੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਕੋਈ ਨਾਹੀ ॥
The True Guru is the Giver of the Lord's Name. There is no other giver at all.
ਮਨਮੁਖ ਭਗਤਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਿਣੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਭਗਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ਰਾਮ ॥
The self-willed manmukhs practice devotional rituals without the True Guru, but without the True Guru, there is no devotion.
I think now you can believe that even Pooran Brahmgyanis can't give naam to anyone because pankti has cleared, only Satguru which is Guru Nanak Dev Ji can give you naam.
And Satguru is only one 
ਇਕਾ ਬਾਣੀ ਇਕੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਇਕੋ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ॥
There is One Bani; there is One Guru; there is one Shabad to contemplate.
And without naam, no-one can get Mukti
ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਨਹੀ ਜੀਵਿਆ ਜਾਇ ॥
Without the Naam, I cannot live.
ਨਾਮਹੀਨ ਕਾਲਖ ਮੁਖਿ ਮਾਇਆ ॥
Those who lack the Naam have their faces rubbed in the dirt of Maya.
ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਧ੍ਰਿਗੁ ਧ੍ਰਿਗੁ ਜੀਵਾਇਆ ॥੩॥
Without the Naam, cursed, cursed are their lives. ||3||
ਨਾਨਕ ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਜਮੁ ਮਾਰਸੀ ਅੰਤਿ ਗਇਆ ਪਛੁਤਾਇ ॥੧॥
O Nanak, without the Name, the Messenger of Death punishes them; in the end, they depart regretting and repenting. ||1||
 
I think now we can conclude that for liberation, you need naam which is only with the Satguru, not anyone else. Hence, anyone has to seek the sanctuary of Satguru Nanak Dev Ji to receive naam and do bhagti and finally reach eternal Sachkhand.

Your statements are absolutely absurd.
"Why would He love people more who do naam jaap if He Is All."
Are you saying he loves murderers and rapists and naam abhyaasis equally? He loves all, no doubt in that. But he always keeps laaj of his gursikhs and not a person who commits sins. He always punishes those who slander the Saints. He loves his saints more than anyone else. He loves all but also does justice by punishing us for our sins. 
ਸੰਤਨ ਦੁਖ ਪਾਏ ਤੇ ਦੁਖੀ
He is painful, when He sees His saints in grief
ਸੁਖ ਪਾਏ ਸਾਧੁਨ ਕੇ ਸੁਖੀ ॥
He is happy, when His saints are happy.
"He doesn't judge and we are noone to judge"
He has appointed Dharam Rai to JUDGE us on the basis of our Man Bach Karam (Thoughts, Sayings and Deeds). If he doesn't judge anyone, then how will he punish someone for sinning? However, if you mean his love isn't affected because of religion, caste etc then I am WITH you on this. And yes, WE are noone to judge.
Seriously? We are in the Bandhan of Lakh Chaurasi and Maaya. Only those Bhagti waala Mahapurush are free of Maaya. 
ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਬੰਧਨ ਤੇ ਮੁਕਤਾ ॥
ਬ੍ਰਹਮਗਿਆਨੀ (ਮਾਇਆ ਦੇ) ਬੰਧਨਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਆਜ਼ਾਦ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ, 
The God-conscious being is free from entanglements.
"The  judgemental fools who fight each other in gurdwarras over petty egotistical matters are noone to listen to or follow."
I don't think it is wrong to be judgemental as long as we are judging in the light of Gurbani. If we don't judge practices of others, then infiltration of Anti Gurmat practices in Khalsa Panth would be really easy. We should not judge on the basis of irrelevant things but also keep a check in light of Gurmat. Eg judging someone's avastha on the basis of physical/outer Rehat. And fights are obviously not a solution. Healthy Debates with quoting points from Gurbani is needed.
Bhul chuk maaf
Trimandeep Singh 

Dhan Guru Dhan Guru Pyare!

Sangat here can visit AKJ.Org and GurmatBibek.com. The websites have plenty of recipes of cookies, ice creams, cupcakes, pizza etc for those people who want to follow dietary bibek and make everything at home from scratch. I know a family here in Delhi and their home made namkeen and chips are much better than Haldirams and Bikano foods.
Here are the links
https://www.akj.org/blog.php?q=Ng==
https://www.gurmatbibek.com/category.php?id=68
Trimandeep Singh

I am neutral on this topic of Jhatka and shikaar. Before coming on this forum, I was a staunch supporter of Vegetarianism. But now, I am neutral. Remaining on a safe side, I will never eat jhatka because-
1) It is not Rehat. So I am not violating Rehat Maryada if I don't consume it.
2) What if it is actually Manmat and against teachings of guru sahib? 
So, just to be on a safe side, I'll not consume it. 
Trimandeep Singh 

In another thread, I told you about opinions of Sikh scholars and mahapurush on offering of degh and eatables to guru Granth sahib Ji. 
Well, I don't think kirpan bhet is a widely practiced Maryada. Is it done in Damdami Taksaal? I am not sure about it. Many Sikh scholars have different opinions on it and I am neutral on this topic.
I just wanted you to know about this puraatan evidence of kirpan bhet.
Trimandeep Singh 

Bhai sahib, as I said in my previous post, Bibek is very broad term. It not only contains Dietary Bibek but Simran Bibek also. I would paste an article of a gursikh here regarding Bibek.
Edit: @paapiman ji, here's a post taken from GurmatBibek.com about relationship between Rehat Bibek and Simran Bibek.
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Relationship between Simran Bibek and Rehit Bibek
Bhai Sahib on Simran Bibek and Rehit Bibek

Original Text: ਪੂਰਨ ਬਿਬੇਕ ਦੇ ਕਿਸੇ ਇਕ ਅੰਗ ਉਤੇ ਹੀ ਕਮਾਈ ਦਾ ਸਾਰਾ ਜ਼ੋਰ ਦੇਣਹਾਰੇ ਅਸਲ ਮੰਜ਼ਲ ਉਤੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਅਪੜ ਸਕਦੇ। ਖਾਸ ਕਰਕੇ ਸਾਰ ਬਿਬੇਕ ਸਿਫਤਿ ਸਾਲਾਹ ਦੇ ਸਹਾਈ ਸਾਧਨ ਸੰਪੰਨ ਕਿਸੇ ਇਕ ਬਿਬੇਕ ਕਰਮ ਨੂੰ ਫੜਕੇ, ਉਸੇ ਦੀ ਕਮਾਈ ਤੇ ਸਾਰਾ ਤਾਣ ਲਾਈ ਰਖਣਾ, ਉਸ ਦੇ ਕਮਾਉਣਹਾਰੇ ਨੁੰ ਇਸ ਧੋਖੇ ਵਿਚ ਫਸਾ ਦਿੰਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਓਹ ਓਸੇ ਬਿਬੇਕ ਕਰਮ ਨੂੰ ਮੁਖ ਅਤੇ ਸਾਰ ਕਰਮ ਸਮਝਣ ਲੱਗ ਪੈਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਜਿਸ ਕਰਕੇ ਓਹ ਅਸਲ ਨਿਸ਼ਾਨੇ ਤੋਂ ਉਕ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਉਕਿਆ ਹੀ ਰਹਿੰਦਾ ਹੈ। ਖਾਨ ਪਾਨ ਬਿਬੇਕ ਅਸੂਲ ਦੇ ਸੰਜਮੀ ਜੋ ਏਸੇ ਸੰਜਮ ਨੂੰ ਹੀ ਪਰਮ ਧਰਮ ਸਮਝਣ ਲੱਗ ਤਾਂ ਏਹ ਓਹਨਾਂ ਦੀ ਅਧੋਗਤੀ ਨੁੰ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤ ਹੋਣ ਵਾਲੀ ਭੁਲ ਹੈ।
ਏਸ ਦੇ ਉਲਟ ਜੇ ਕੋਈ ਇਹ ਭੀ ਚਾਹੇ ਕਿ ਬਿਨਾ ਸਾਧਨ ਸੰਪੰਨ ਬਿਬੇਕ ਕਰਮਾਂ ਦੀ ਕਮਾਈ ਦੇ ਸਾਰ ਬਿਬੇਕ ਸਿਫਤਿ ਸਾਲਾਹ ਦੀ ਕਮਾਈ ਵਾਲੀ ਉਚੀ ਮੁਖਿ ਮੰਜ਼ਲ ਇਕ ਦਮ ਪਰਾਪਤ ਹੋ ਜਾਏਗੀ ਇਹ ਭੀ ਕੱਚਾ ਅਤੇ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਖਿਆਲ ਹੈ।
Humble Translation: To stress on only one part of complete Bibek, does not allow such person to reach the destination (spiritual destination). In particular, to hold on to one of the aiding Karam (Rehit Karams) of Supreme Sifat-Salah Karam (Naam Karam) and to put all effort on earning this aiding Karam, entangles such person in a deception (Dhokha) that he starts considering this particular Bibek Karam to be the supreme Karam and because of this, he gets led away from the main aim and stays away from the main aim. The ones who follow the discipline of dietary Bibek and start thinking that this discipline or restraint alone is the supreme Karam, then this mistake becomes the cause of their fall.
Contrary to this (aforementioned), if someone wants to quickly achieve the high destinations of Sifat-Salaah Bibek, without keeping the aiding Bibek Karams (Rehit and Hukams other than Naam and Gurbani), then this too is an unripe and a vain thought.
Vichaar: Bhai Sahib has very diligently put forward a very important thought about relationship between Simran Bibek and Rehit Bibek. Basically what Bhai Sahib is saying is that Simran Bibek is the supreme Karam that Gurmukhs should do but to be able to do Simran Bibek, the aiding Karams, which are called Rehit Bibek Karams, are required to be done.
Bhai Sahib makes it clear that the main aim is Simran Bibek but sometimes, some Gursikhs who follow Rehit Bibek, start thinking that one part of their Rehit Bibek e.g. Dietary Bibek is the supreme Karam and they start putting all their efforts in keeping this Bibek and unwittingly ignore the Simran Bibek. Bhai Sahib is saying that this results in their spiritual downfall.
On the other hand, if someone wants to do Simran Bibek i.e. do the supreme Karam of Sifat-Salah of Vaheguru, without keeping Rehit-Bibek, then too they are unlikely to meet success. While Rehit Bibek is not the supreme Karam but at the same time it is the vital Karam that is required to earn the supreme Karam of Sifat Salah or Simran.
Some people ask what happens to the Naam Kamaaee of people who don’t keep Rehit Bibek. The answer is what happens to the milk that is poured in a utensil that has many holes? The milk all drains out of the holes. Same way, the Naam Kamaaee and Gurbani Kamaaee of people who don’t obey Guru Sahib’s Hukam of keeping Rehit, gets wasted in compensating for not keeping Rehit. First of all, ones who don’t obey Guru Sahib’s Hukam of keeping Rehit, are unable to do real Kamaaee of Naam and Gurbani but if due to their past spiritual Kamaaee, they are able to do Kamaaee, it gets wasted to compensate for the sins earned by not obeying Guru Sahibs Hukam of keeping Rehit.
Simran Bibek is a treasure and Rehit Bibek is the protection or security of this treasure. Now, if one has all kind of security and protection walls to protect the treasure, but no treasure at all, then what good is the effort to keep such security? Same way, if there is treasure but no security, then it is likely to get stolen. So both treasure and security is required. A Sikh must obey all Hukams of Guru Sahib including the supreme Hukam of Simran Bibek and aiding Hukam of Rehit Bibek. Gursikhi is about obeying Guru Sahib's Hukams.
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Daas would also like to add that there are other types of bibek too.
Akhaan (eyes) da Bibek:
How a gursikh perceives or sees something. A kalyugi may see a woman with kaam but a gursikh sees a daughter, sister or a mother in another sex. 
Kannan (Ears) da Bibek:
What a gursikh hears and listens too. A gursikh never listens to ninda or chugli and tries to listen to Amrit bani only at all times.
Mooh (mouth) da bibek:
A gursikh never swears or abuses with the same mouth he/she uses to recite Baani. 
There can be many more. These were just to name a few.
Trimandeep Singh 

What? What message does it give about death?
It means one who gets the True Guru gets a spot in that place where there is no spiritual death (no vikaars) and no cycle of 84 Lakh Joons.
What is it saying About death? 
And what message is it giving about death? 
It just says there is no death in realm of truth, Sachkhand.
Trimandeep Singh 

It is saying without the One Almighty Lord, the world remains in entanglements and this 'Moh of Maaya' is false.

Even if Bhai Gurdaas Ji was a celibate, it doesn't matter. If he has written that Grihast Jeevan is the highest jeevan in Dharam then I accept it as Satbachan. His household life was not written under the hukam of guru sahib.
The marriage and the life partner of a gursikh is pre ordained by Guru Sahib. If guru sahib wanted him to do Sewa of Panth and his household life was not written, then there's no harm in this.
Baba Nand Singh Ji, Baba Karam Singh Ji, Sant Isher Singh Ji, Sant Attar Singh Ji all didn't marry not because they believed that household life is a hurdle in bhagti but because it was the hukam of Vaheguru. How can these Sants not know importance of Gristi jeevan when clearly given by Bhai Gurdaas Ji? They knew but accepted hukam of guru sahib.
Bhul chuk maaf
Trimandeep Singh 

Sanyasis are those Sidhs who completely renounced worldly life and went to the mountains to do jap tap. Nihungs are the Chakravarti Khalsa who still earn through farming and live in dal chhaunis instead of going to mountains.
Trimandeep Singh 

1. Sant Kartar Singh Ji, Sant Jarnail Singh Ji and Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji. Even if there wasn't any brahmgyami householder in modern times, still answer would be yes from Gurbani. According to Bhai Gurdaas Ji, Grihast Jeevan is the highest dharmi jeevan.
Read Shabad Hazaare Patshahi 10 to know what guru sahib says about Sanyaas.
2. Even if there are less gurudwaras you can perhaps find sangat which keeps you motivated or arrange Kirtan programs at your residence. If you keep Amrit Vela and Rehat then it will build a kvach around you which will not let maaya take your Kamaayi.
3. In our Ardaas, we pray to Baba Nand Singh Ji or Guru Sahib? A Sikh should offer prayer to Guru sahib only and not any mahapurush. You can ask a mahapurush to do Ardaas FOR you and Guru sahib may listen to it. And for the second question, yes Baba Ji can give you his darshan but it will not happen if you remember him instead of Vaheguru during Gurbani and abhyaas but if you continue practicing Gurbani in your life. If you face a problem, Baba Ji may give you his darshan and Give a solution based on Gurbani.

I have already been in this confusion. Sursingh waale Mahapurakh is the descendant of Baba Bidhi Chand Ji or Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji? Also, any source that backs this point that all their kul will be Brahmgyanis?
Don't want to trigger another topic or debate but I have seen Bhai Charanjeet Singh Ji (son of Baba Avtaar Singh Ji I guess) get matha-tekked by Farladhari Buzurg Nihang Singhs. Don't know the reason behind this but I just found this wrong (according to my mat).
Bhul chuk maaf
Trimandeep Singh 

I don't remember exactly, but I guess it was Damdami Beer in which 'Mahalla 10' was written as a Mangal for the last saloks of Salok Mahalla 9 we read today. Most scholars and gursikhs don't consider it the writing of Dasvein Patshaah though. I believe same is the case with this.
 
Trimandeep Singh

Veerji aren't we supposed to take only cold showers? Gurbani knows much better than Science about what is good for us.
I don't know about the first point, but cold water is better than hot water for all other 9 benefits mentioned.
Trimandeep Singh 

This is the only part of the play where Vaheguru Akal Purakh is not obvious, or known to all, the only time and place one could mistakingly believe that this is not all seen and that there are no consequences. 
The test of integrity is what you do when you think nobody is watching. This place is the ultimate test of integrity. 
What do you do when you think maybe God isn't real or can't see you or doesn't care? Look around. That's what everyone is doing. Dropping their integrity all over the place for Maya and Egotism, destorying the planet they were created to steward. 
Well not only is Dad home, he never left, and he sees absolutely everything we're doing at our little raging house party on earth. Raping our sisters. Things like this. 
Only for the development, destruction, and testing of free will does this seem to occur here. The veil parts and there we are naked in front of everybody. Act accordingly. 

Nai veer ,  I have 2 sanchian at home. Before I used to read from an ipad. But recently, the path has been on pause. I am trying to finish other nitnem. 

Vaheguru Ji ka Khalsa 
Vaheguru Ji ki Fateh!
Hey brother, we don't know how much bani you have read and how many times you have visited a Gurudwara and the sacrifices you have made to please Guru sahib. I am just assuming that you came into Sikhi recently and hence have these trust issues, which is absolutely normal. 
I am not being rude but most probably, you are being ungrateful, what we call Akirtkanh. 
Maybe you have such bad previous karams that you are facing a dukh since long. Even a gursikh faces tough times, but because they firmly believe in Guru sahib, they read more bani and tend to remain in chardikala.
Did you just do an ardaas or read some bani too? The reasons why praying may not have given you expected results can be-
1. You didn't have the required faith when doing ardaas.
2. You expected huge results with less efforts.
3. Not reading bani/doing ardaas with concentration 
Yes, God is responsible for everything but he's not responsible for your own karams. The reason why we commit bad karams is Maya and the punishments that we receive are decided according to the Karma System. Vaheguru is responsible for activating Maaya on earth and for creating the Karma system, and not your karams. Try to understand this.
Well it's not hypocrisy but just the truth. To explain this, you would have to understand the working of Karma System (as in Gurmat). I would write a famous short story to just give you some understanding.
Story starts*
Once there was a shardhaalu (devotee) of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. He had firm belief in him while his friend, who was a thief was pretty much a stranger to this kind of stuff. The thief friend always used to mock him that even though he was a thief, he was still living a happier and comfortable life than the devotee's. One day, the devotee asked his thief friend to come along him and pay a visit to Guru Nanak Dev Ji. On the way, the thief found a gold coin while the devotee got his foot hurt by a sharp object. The thief again laughed at him but the devotee remained quiet and confidently told him that Guru Nanak Dev Ji will give the answer why this happened. When they reached, they asked Guru sahib to solve their shanka (doubt). Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji told them that because of the thief's good previous life karams, he would have found a pot full of gold coins but he got just one coin because he's a sinner. On the other hand, the devotee had his death (hanging) written today but because of his shardha in Vaheguru, the pain he had to go through was cut by a large extent, from phaansi to just a foot injury.
Story ends*
 
You can't blame guru sahib for your sufferings but if you read bani and apply principles of Sikhi, then he can interfere and reduce the pain/punishment.
Here's a lecture on Gurmat Karam Philosophy. If you want to learn more about how karams work and how your punishments get reduced or minimised by reading bani, watch this. And it's really a must watch! One of my favs (Bhai Kulbir Singh Toronto)
Trimandeep Singh 

Bhai sahib, you have Sri Dasam Granth sahib prakash at your place?
 

Maybe this problem is increasing because sikhs and their families try to look for a suitable partner themselves rather than taking the help of senior gursikhs they know.
Amritdhari Sikhs who don't have spiritually inclined families should especially take the help of a senior gursikh only, preferably such a gursikh who is rehitvaan and goes into sangat regularly.
Trimandeep Singh 

I probably read this in a blog. Bhai Sahib Jagtar Singh Ji (Late Jathedar of Gurmat Bibek Jatha) used to say that whenever one visits a gurudwara, a Sikh should make sure that his/her shastars are visible so that Guru sahib can see them.
And here's my opinion. I think a Sikh shouldn't hide his kirpan deliberately behind his/her chola or shirt to make sure that he stands out in the crowd.
I think it would be acceptable in these situations.
 
Never read or heard their comments on these. A little what I know is that puratan gursikhs of AKJ keep the dori shastars in their base keski with the kangha like Nihang Singhs.
I am not saying it's some kind of Rehat or a rule...i just wrote the views of puratan gursikhs (particularly AKJ and most probably Taksaal too has the same view)
 
Second one is valid and perhaps maybe the first point makes a Sikh kinda less tyar bar tyar.
Rest guru sahib knows well 
Trimandeep Singh 

Vaheguru Ji ka Khalsa 
Vaheguru Ji ki Fateh!
Hey brother, we don't know how much bani you have read and how many times you have visited a Gurudwara and the sacrifices you have made to please Guru sahib. I am just assuming that you came into Sikhi recently and hence have these trust issues, which is absolutely normal. 
I am not being rude but most probably, you are being ungrateful, what we call Akirtkanh. 
Maybe you have such bad previous karams that you are facing a dukh since long. Even a gursikh faces tough times, but because they firmly believe in Guru sahib, they read more bani and tend to remain in chardikala.
Did you just do an ardaas or read some bani too? The reasons why praying may not have given you expected results can be-
1. You didn't have the required faith when doing ardaas.
2. You expected huge results with less efforts.
3. Not reading bani/doing ardaas with concentration 
Yes, God is responsible for everything but he's not responsible for your own karams. The reason why we commit bad karams is Maya and the punishments that we receive are decided according to the Karma System. Vaheguru is responsible for activating Maaya on earth and for creating the Karma system, and not your karams. Try to understand this.
Well it's not hypocrisy but just the truth. To explain this, you would have to understand the working of Karma System (as in Gurmat). I would write a famous short story to just give you some understanding.
Story starts*
Once there was a shardhaalu (devotee) of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. He had firm belief in him while his friend, who was a thief was pretty much a stranger to this kind of stuff. The thief friend always used to mock him that even though he was a thief, he was still living a happier and comfortable life than the devotee's. One day, the devotee asked his thief friend to come along him and pay a visit to Guru Nanak Dev Ji. On the way, the thief found a gold coin while the devotee got his foot hurt by a sharp object. The thief again laughed at him but the devotee remained quiet and confidently told him that Guru Nanak Dev Ji will give the answer why this happened. When they reached, they asked Guru sahib to solve their shanka (doubt). Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji told them that because of the thief's good previous life karams, he would have found a pot full of gold coins but he got just one coin because he's a sinner. On the other hand, the devotee had his death (hanging) written today but because of his shardha in Vaheguru, the pain he had to go through was cut by a large extent, from phaansi to just a foot injury.
Story ends*
 
You can't blame guru sahib for your sufferings but if you read bani and apply principles of Sikhi, then he can interfere and reduce the pain/punishment.
Here's a lecture on Gurmat Karam Philosophy. If you want to learn more about how karams work and how your punishments get reduced or minimised by reading bani, watch this. And it's really a must watch! One of my favs (Bhai Kulbir Singh Toronto)
Trimandeep Singh 

Maybe this problem is increasing because sikhs and their families try to look for a suitable partner themselves rather than taking the help of senior gursikhs they know.
Amritdhari Sikhs who don't have spiritually inclined families should especially take the help of a senior gursikh only, preferably such a gursikh who is rehitvaan and goes into sangat regularly.
Trimandeep Singh 

I probably read this in a blog. Bhai Sahib Jagtar Singh Ji (Late Jathedar of Gurmat Bibek Jatha) used to say that whenever one visits a gurudwara, a Sikh should make sure that his/her shastars are visible so that Guru sahib can see them.
And here's my opinion. I think a Sikh shouldn't hide his kirpan deliberately behind his/her chola or shirt to make sure that he stands out in the crowd.
I think it would be acceptable in these situations.
 
Never read or heard their comments on these. A little what I know is that puratan gursikhs of AKJ keep the dori shastars in their base keski with the kangha like Nihang Singhs.
I am not saying it's some kind of Rehat or a rule...i just wrote the views of puratan gursikhs (particularly AKJ and most probably Taksaal too has the same view)
 
Second one is valid and perhaps maybe the first point makes a Sikh kinda less tyar bar tyar.
Rest guru sahib knows well 
Trimandeep Singh