aguptkaur

so nidder is the one who knows this and the rest including all nihang dals believe in 5 this is really interesting sounds like a cult i hope he doesnt kill all his chele before topping himself!!!

apologies should have read it properly agree with your views though is there any chance putting the whole shabad/path up so we can see what context the line is in????

dont know who it is all i know is that he wears like a kurta and doesnt wear any thing on the legs except for keshera does that sound like anybody????

sorry for not coming on earlier i have been speaking to my source recently and it seems that for some part got the wrong end of the stick because i only spoke to them over the phone about this issue i have actually seen them face to face now and can clarify a few things glad to say there is no case of peodophilia, the person in question was 17 at the time! My source also said that it wasn't just a one way thing and was most probably two way. my source is a student of nidder singh and still goes to his classes he would still like to remain anon, i tried to get him to come out but he wouldnt. so the issue of peodophilia has been resolved, however the issue of homosexuality still exists.

I have been to amritworld I dont think it gives the ang number although it gives the line, does anyone know the ang or the entire shabad or path it is written in????

Can somebody update us on the exact line giving the ang number of Sarbloh Granth that states/suggests 3 k`s so we can do vichar on it. Nobody has done this yet. Vijaydeep Singh you havent replied back as you promised????It's coming upto 5 months

to doaba, I am glad you personally know them at mehta chowk and are sorting it out for them, I am sure you have contacts at other dals so you can help sort it at their places and most of all may be help out in the UK with "wannabe" buddha dal UK (I hope this name was worthy, but It may have to change, may be we shouls start a new thread!!!LOL) Could you do this professionally or is it just a skill you have sorting out homo problems?????

to admin this is not slander cos it is true Nidder Singh is NOT jathedar of Buddha Dal UK unless letter is shown (why cant he put in on one of his websites????) and he has no farla so is not maha kaal so dont lock this topic If you do lock it my theories about yourselves will be proved correct by the way this post is not for discussion , just a message to the admin Mod's Note: Then how about you PM Admin if its just for Admin? :roll:

i dont understand at all, when allegations are made against buddha dal uk (even though I use this quite a lot, may be I shouldnt cos the letter for proof of jathedari still hasnt been uploaded and the thread I started locked(possibly co there is no letter!!!!lol!!!!)(better stay on topic otherwise this one might be locked too!!!LOL) every one gets really aggitated however, when proof is asked about the dals and jathe in indias everyone takes it as a joke or begin slandering. May be Buddha Dal UK (Ibetter think of a new name for them cos there still is no letter, I`ll try and have something for my next post!!!LOL) need to get their own house in order first before looking at others, cos this topic is a very serious matter. And if you all still dont believe me ask your ustad Not Maha kaal Jathedar elect Nidder Singh binafarladhari and I am sure he will tell you

The proof you all wanted has been presented (whether it will stand up in court I do not know!!) Nihang Teja Singh with instruction from Jathedar Nidder Singh (I think the spelling is right this time!!) has stated many times over in sarbloh.info (took your advice beast took the day off to educate myself yesterday!!) that homosexuality and peodophilia occurs within many jathe. It was they who brought up this issue and hence from what previous posters have suggested: Guv'nor said: great post vijaydeep singh. it seems that those that make the most noise about homosexuality are the ones who have issues with their own sexuality. And hence it must be they who have these tendancies!!! I rest my case!!!! To set the record straight: the singh in the photo, in the thread of sukha singh is not the gay person I was talking about, however, if you believe he is, then may be this problem is greater than I thought!!! And since you named him Beast, may be what Guv`nor said applies to you too!!!!!!!!

kara kirpan keshera kesh kanga this is what i have been taught (although i hear there is some controversy with kesh as some beleive keski. This is not my question it is whether there are 5 or 3)

i have always been taught there are 5 k`s however i have been doing some research (something suggested to me by beast on another thread) and i have found that Buddha Dal UK (Nidder Singh Jatha) says there are only 3 My questions Is this true??? If so what are they???? Is there any proof??? Is this what Buddha Dal in India say?????

I repeat It is not Jathedar Nidder Singh who says he is the jathedar on this forum (or does he in false name?) it is his shagrids. Also If Baba Ram Singh is not the only one with farla then that means that Jathedar Nidder Singh is not even second, there are more Nihangs higher than him. So what they say are probably the true beliefs of Buddha Dal and not what the shagrids of Nidder Singh say on this forum cos there is no credibility. Unless the letter is uploaded.

we will HAVE to accept the answer if you give it, what else could we do. But the people who keep mentioning the letter on this forum to seem to show it or give the answer??? Why??? your a beast you shouldnt be afraid of giving the answer. It is not Jathedar Nidder Singh who says he is the jathedar on this forum (or does he in false name) it is his shagrids, Jathedar ji at one of his london talks last year took a swipe at Baba Santa Singh, I heard it with my own ears. If he is the Jathedar then should he take a swipe at the head of Buddha Dal May be he isn't, and the rightful one is Akali Baba Ram Singh Farladhari Dont get krodh, if there is a letter upload it or dont go around saying he is the jathedar of the UK Buddha Dal, be honest and say that Akali Baba Ram Singh is . By the way if you dont know that the shagrids get molested then good, cos that means you havent!!! and I am in the process of speaking to the student to tell him that the time has come to come forward and speak the truth.

It has been stated on another thread that Baba Ram Singh farladhari is higher than Jathedar Nidder Singh because he has a farla. It is also said that Nidder Singh is uk jathedar of Buddha Dal Should the actual jathedari belong to baba ram singh? if it doesnt then can you upload the letter from Jathedar Santa Singh to give jathedari to Nidder singh. (is there a letter? or is it a fake jathedari??) Should we look to Baba Ram Singh to lead the Nihangs in the uk and give us the exact views and beliefs of Nihangs when they are asked on the board. Or shall we continue to look to the students of Jathedar Niddar Singh to give these to us as they say he is the Jathedar??