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  1. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, Veer N30, Having returned to this forum after some time (owing to work commitments). I noticed you have closed the thread. It struck me that this is not an uncommon occurrence. I understand the unacceptable nature of postings which are of a personal and abusive nature, these contribute nothing to the discussion and inevitably lead the debate into a exchange of repetitive 'tit for tat'. This leads you to close the thread, understandably. However I believe that it is only some individuals who consistently find it easier to reply wit
  2. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, I have been away from this or any forum for quite some time, owing to other commitments. Primary to anything else what is needed is an apology, how dare you write that sacrifices were made for 'nothing'? Did you lose anyone close to you? Friend, relative, brother,father,sister,mother?? To qualify you to make such a comment? You style your 'web-handle' upon the name of a weapon yet you lack any understanding of its responsibility....'all for nothing?' Sewa is its own reward, take back your comments now, lest you continue to add
  3. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, Since you have quoted me please read the quote properly, it reads 'IF Santa Singh wishes....' the operative word being 'IF' I do do not say there is any compulsion for him to do so. Also the quote you use is a response to beast, who ask's . My view is 'IF' he wishes to counter his critics it is his perogative to do so, not the responsibility of others to question him. . In the interests of saving you embarrassment in the future, monthly meetings, car or otherwise take place once a month, hence the title. . Fro
  4. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, . I don't know whether anyone is waiting with bated breath, the reply is hardly likely to be a revelation to anyone. . . So that is agreed, if Santa Singh wishes to present his version of events then surely it is his responsibility to do so, if he does not choose to present a view of events contrary to that which is generally accepted, then it must be assumed he has no clarification to make. Ultimately he could not hope to deny that the 'kar seva' was carried out under his auspices at the behest of the GOI, the record is u
  5. Waheguru ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, . Yes, beast the thread title related to Santa Singh and his actions following 'bluestar', but it did so quite specifically, his acceptance of the 'Tankhaah' and his official return to the fold, based upon his acceptance of wrong doing after a number of years. Narsingha did not accept the events as described above, initially his posting did relate to this specifically,as was the purpose of the thread, but if you take a look back through the thread it was in answer to this post, -- -------------------------------- Waheguru Ji K
  6. Waheguru ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, You really should stop judging other's by your own shortcomings, (FYI) I wrote most of the post at my monthly car club meeting, outside in the glorious sunshine. I assure you it was neither time consuming nor an effort, you may find responding to a question is far less fatiguing than avoiding one. I responded to every point you raised even though you refuse to answer a single question that I put to you. As for it being a 'huge' reply, the word your groping for is comprehensive, but there again why should I except you to recogn
  7. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, . There is truth and there is that which is untrue, the Sikh history referred to within this thread is of a recent period and therefore wholly empirical. The fact that it is consistent from multiple sources only reinforces this fact. It is not my truth but instead a matter of record and no amount of subjective opinion can change that, which is why you avoid answering any questions on the subject. My 'exploits' on this site have not drawn criticism from anyone other than yourself or your ilk, which is to be excepted, uncomf
  8. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, . It may be inconvenient for you, undoubtedly you wish that the actions of Santa Singh were not common knowledge, but as no study of Santa Singh would be complete without discussing his collaboration with the GOI conspired 'kar seva', no discussion of the neo-nihangs would be complete without referring to Santa Singh. Bear in mind also that his name appears in the title of this thread and so is entirely relevant, not 'dragged up' as you contend. Rather than perversely expressing sorrow that people have a habit of scrutinising t
  9. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, I never did receive any answer's to the question posed (see asterix below), any suggestions gratefully received, anyway I thought this may be of help to the discussion, full mail can be found at http://sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness/vie...70&start=30 ....The 'nindia' of Santa Singh is a bit more complicated, there is no direct accusation save for the writer's opinion that the people that are represented by Santa Singh are to his mind not Nihangs, by his definition, as to what his definition may be is again a matter for the writer
  10. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, N30 as requested, You can send your donations now and there are some stories of the brothers and sister's these good people help. Gur Fateh Sukhbir Singh Gur-Aasra Trust, #3133, Phase-7, Mohali, Punjab The Trust has got its own website www.guraasra.com. You can get more information about the trust from the website. 106)- Amanjot Kaur D/o Shaheed Dr. Sukhchain Singh Age - 13 years Class - VIII Brief History:- Her father, the only son of his parents, was a professional doctor in his village-Maan Khaire
  11. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, .. Fauge you believe that there is no progress, that nothing is done that the people involved are ill qualified to further the cause, that empty rhetoric is the order of the day? Well much in the same way that N30 felt that there was no relief or charity work for the victims of 84 (I have included something for you N30 veer at the end of this post) because he was not aware of any, you think that nothing constructive is being achieved, that the people involved are politically naive. Well much in the same way as N30, you are wrong. J
  12. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, I did not wish to respond to some of the most recent posts since as predicted the thread has moved some distance from its original intention i.e.. the impact of a Sikh being installed as indian PM on the Sikh right to self determination. However some of the comments made do need to be countered if for no other reason than to correct some misconceptions and factual inaccuracies. Above is nonsensical, why would anyone claim to advocate something if they did not desire it? Surely if you lacked the desire of an objective then you wou
  13. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, Thank you, but it is not naivety that leads me to my comment regarding the Air india case, instead the knowledge that had this case been as 'clear cut' as you seem to suggest then it would not be one of the longest running cases in Canadian legal history! Regardless of declarations of guilt by any one individual there was undoubtedly Indian government connivance in this atrocity. Have you read the book 'soft target'? It may not be for some conclusive in its findings but it certainly raises enough question's about the covert involvemen
  14. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, There seems to be huge political naivety on the part of some posters, N30 as example, in response to your statement above, you may not see any discrimination, may I ask what draws you to this conclusion? Have you for example read amnesty's most recent report on the Panjab situation, delivered only last year? It outlines continuing abuses by the indian state in Panjab. It is a fact that thousands still languish in prisons without trial or hope, widows still pine for justice, orphans are still asking why? Yet you see no discriminat
  15. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, For those of you living in the UK, please make enquiries as to whether your gurudwara has arranged coach travel. If not, it is of vital importance that you make representations to them, possibly with the support of older members of the sangat to ask them why they have not? We are often left frustrated, knowing what is 'right' and what clearly is not but impotent to do anything constructive to change our situation we decide to 'bury our heads in the sand', distract ourselves or convince ourselves it is not my problem, 'what can I do anyway'?
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