Iron-Singh

I stand by Baba Takhur Singh ji's words. If you want to insult with sarcasm people who stand by Babaji's bachan, that's your choice.

dynamic banda, not all taksalis accept Baba Harnam Singh or Bhai Ram Singh as Jathedars of the Taksal, hence they have not gone back on their stance! One of Baba Harnam Singh's first actions as "jathedar" was to kick out all students who stood by Baba Takhur Singh's words... plenty of Singhs who would call themselves Taksalis still stand by Baba Takhur Singh ji's words.

can you elaborate on the "Ahl ul Bayt of India"?

sounds like the exact description of Guru Gobind Singh ji's Khalsa. what do present day shia's think of khalsa sikhs (if they know about them) in light of this hadith?

His close friend and fellow student during Sant Kartar Singh ji's time, Gyani Takhur Singh(Patialawale), confirms that Sant Jarnail Singh was a Brahmgyani, not only that, but a Brahmgyani of the 8th level... (highest level I believe). Mata Sahib Kaur gave Santji darshan at Hazoor sahib and showed him all that was to happen. If you don't believe in this, that's your prerogative.

the "islam" of all muslims is not the same. if you've lived in india you'll know what i mean. there is a great deal of difference between islam in punjab and the islam of bengal and the islam of saudi arabia....and not just in terms of sects. so even if "pure" islam believes God doesn't reside in the creation, it doesn't mean the normal indian muslim will believe that aswell.

don't worry bhenji, like neo said, many people go through these stages. contrary to what people might tell you, fear is a good thing! for one, it shows your ego is small. the real unfortunate souls are those who don't do paathh aaaaand feel they have nothing to fear. also remember, Guruji takes thousands of steps towards you if you take one step. You doing paath two times a day is an awesome step. and Guruji has blessed you (believe it!) with fear. he WANTS you to keep going on this path, so he has put this fear inside you to keep you moving. Just look around you, all the poeple who don't fear God/death/narak/joons/jamdoots..they won't feel the need to do paath. to have this "fear" is itself a huge blessing. You will truly look back one day and be glad you didn't give up (when you move into bairaag/prem). on a personal note, i used to do paath out of immense fear of poverty, ill health of family, and fear of upsetting Guruji when I was a bit younger than you. Looking back i see it as Guruji nudging me along in the right direction. I to used to think, "why can't I just do paath without this "fear" factor"....but back when I was a kid, i needed a bribe to do paath, ad that bribe came to me in the form that I would feel Guruji would help my family stay away from poverty and help me get good grades, or keep ghosts away from me (hey, i was like 11 !). so keep the paath going and don't stop fearing :wink:

Since literate and illiterate are both capable of obtaining Vaheguru. Makes me less stressed about not understanding some of the finer details incorporated from Vedant.

Gian Sant Singh ji maskeen stated about 3 years before he passed away at Singh sabha in Surrey, that "it is only now that I have started tasting Naam Ras after a whole lifetime of speaking/reading about it". So I see what Pheena ji is saying about hypnotic katha where the listener thinks the speaker is speaking from experience.

I'm sorry but I don't recall Gyani ji talking about "Omkar", I think he was just talking about "om" and "oankaar". Infact, I don't think the word "omkaar" was even used previously. "om" and "oang" mean the same thing I believe. When Gyani ji says "om" refers to trimurti, he's saying it in the sense of the core meaning of the word. Some traditions may in fact use "om" to refer to the One, but the word itself, if it is broken down, is a description of the trimurti.

great seva n30...but for some reason, all these terms just don't sink into my brain, i'm finding it very hard to fully comprehend. i think if someone could make a pictorial representation of this stuff it would be really helpful for beginners. this thread should be good...

This really is a treasure. I felt so calm and at peace after reading those Gurbani lines with the added knowledge of their arths. I'm definitely going to read this whole book. Great seva.

where can we get this book ? is it a single book or a series?

Bhai sahib answers some of the accusations against him..

has Ranjit Dayal been taken care of yet ?