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STOP PRESS The fourth line of my previous post should read :- The entire panth has for three centuries been completely unified in the finality and validity of the Damdami Bir. Anyone who thinks anything else is simply misinformed. STOP PRESS

gurfateh, "Maharajs saroops were once handwritten with no spell checker and no specific unified contents and hence regional variations came into existance" very dubious comment, 10've patshah gave the gur gaddi to the damdami bir, the spell checker was the vidya guru jee passed on to 40 singh (Damdami Taksal) who were given santhia themselves from guru jee. In order to prevent "regional variations" springing up. To say in front of a wolrd audience that Maharaajs saroops had no unified contents is a massive missapropiation. The entire panth have for three centuries have been completly unified in the finality and validity of the Damdami Bir. Anyone who thinks anything else is simply misinformed. You do command an excellent use of the english language, however your knowledge regarding Sikhi is rather patchy. This assumption is based on the quote taken from your post at the beggining of this reply. It amazes me how even educated, intellectual people have been robbed of their objective critical analysis. Placing a firmer belief in a Skilled yet Mixed up "make it up as you go along" martial artist, rather than Gian Saroop Pavitr Gurbani. Man Tu Joot Saroop Ho My Mind, you form the very essence. Know You Enemy. If your enemy is your mind then you are forever trapped

Gurfateh Jee We are actually getting away from a very serious topic. Distortion of a subjective reality. Mr N Singh sells or markets his stance as "sanatan" ( "snatan" ) , ie eternal , not open to change. It is this advert stance towards change that distinguishes "Snatan" from mainstream. As jungee states "the idiots who believed everything they were told or read", these people rule sanatism in the diaspora. Spoon fed devi worshiping fools who place a well skilled martial artist above Jugo Jug Atal Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Know your Enemy Worship Your Satguru Gurfateh

Fateh Jee i dont think youll get any replies to that question, this is just on e of many inconsistencies of the great nidar cult, others include. 1) why did Sir Nidar wear a blue kashera in his early years? A practice which he has since forgotten. At the time he used to say it was a old tradition. Changed and Forgotten by his non critical somewhat blind followers. 2) Initially there was 5 samprdaas, as taught by his ustaad. Then all of a sudden it fell to 4. Strange but true. I dont expect any replies that explain this stance. I understand that people are not prone to criticise the god like jhatka gatka ustaad prone to wearing blue underwear. Laters yowl.

I was badly informed that this site was the "hot bed" of Sanatanism. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: However, the truth is that "sanatanists" are in fact blind sheeplike followers of the God like Narsinga, who is in turn a intellectual sight impaired worshippers of the great Nihang Sahib Niddar Singh. My lifes quest is to meet and discourse with the Knight of God : Baba Hari Singh. If any one has seen the documentry they will appreciate the chardi kala of Baba Hari Singh. Nobody on this site has been able to answer questions regarding the concept of "seva", "simran", "mukhti" or "gursikhi." Many views, yet no replies. I shall approach Baba Hari Singh with the same questions. If i can ever find him i shall be sure to post his comments on this site. Search deep, only falsehood exists on the surface. :shock: :shock:

All we are trying to do is ascertain the crudentials of people who claim a position of authority. Nobody picked on any body. Please avoid been fanatical and concentrate on the subject matter in hand.

It is obvious that people on this site, I.E "narsingha sahib" are setting themselves up as authorities on Nihang Singh Maryada and thought. Could "Narsingha Jeee" please tell us how long he has stayed within the Akali Nihang Singh Dals. HOW MANY DAYS? HOW MANY NIGHTS?

Is "Sanatan Sikhi" a most ancient philosophy (if so give references to historical or theological texts that demonstrate such a term as "Sanatan Sikh"), or is it a contemporary creation of the diaspora? Old or new, that is the question?

Adressed to adherents of "Sanatan Sikhi" :- Of two persons. One is most historically knowledgeable, yet lacks any spiritual "Bhagti". The other has great spiritual "Bhagti" yet lacks historical Knowledge. The thirds cares little for both "knowledge" or "spiritulism". Of these, who holds most knowledge of "dharm"?

The Souls liberation from births and deaths. "Mukhti". How is that obtained according to "sanatan Sikhs".

What do the concepts of "seva" and "simran" mean to "sanatan Sikhs" of the diaspora?

Do "Sanatan Sikhs" adhere to any "rehit-maryada"?

Please clarify. Do they, the "Sanatan Sikhs" accept the existence of a distinct philosophy called "GURSIKHi".

Do the "sanatan sikhs" believe that 5 kakkars are compulsary or do they believe in "T-re mundar", the three adornments? 3 kakkars or Panj Kakkar, That is the question?

Does the "Shiv Saroop" mentioned by the sanatan sikhs refer to Shiv Jee the blue skinned, trisool weilding yogi or does it refer to "Sada Shiv", the always present creator being vaaaaheguru. Shiv or Sada Shiv, that is the question???