Bruce Lung

Sikh kirpan is for show, poison pen is for use.

No point in upholding any suachem, because if it's in English then it can't be SGGS.

You can't ban me! I'm Bruce Lung!

Not having telepathy powers must make me a "retard" too... I get what you're saying but I'm talking about bigger achievements than petty community activism of the type that you are suggesting can bring about. For instance, a democratically elected council of guardians or caretakers, responsible for working hand in hand with local authorities, police forces and central government to keep the peace and foster an atmosphere that doesn't inhibit individuals' right to practice religion without suffering indignities or offense. The advantage of this would be that families of Sikh heritage or with Sikh links won't feel under siege when they come under pressure from self-appointed rabble rousers to change their wedding plans or whatever. A nice polite letter endorsed by local officials, and "consultations" with police etc. would work far better, and would avert accusations of being led by the ear by extremist elements in local rags and all that. If you just continue to let whoever can get the job done just get on with it, radical fringe elements' influence and power will increase. That way, concern for this type of "disrespect" will become a matter of interest only to marginalists. Do you want to be marginalised?

it's out of choice. i'll leave you with sir ian blair and keep to myself the great treasure.

I didn't know it was you harsingh!

ifithelps, i think you are retarded.

i hope you don't pass your demons onto your own children. be kind and reason with them. it's fair enough if someone chooses to have fear because of their own personal religious beliefs, but not to scare others into accommodating religious beliefs that they don't share. the intellectual property rights of SGGS and interpretation of "disrespect" are both issues that need to be resolved. multiculturalism officially hasn't worked, see? britishness has to be prime these days. there will be less tolerance for the idea that all cultures are equal in moral value.

All water is recycled.

So they haven't seen the error of their ways (after all, it's beneath your dignity to try and convince them), so it's good enough that they do as you wish out of fear?

Beware the sangat you keep! I would rather associate with men of courage and honour than politicians. I'm often guilty of being too subtle. I should make it clear that what I'm saying here is that the APPG was formed by the government in a hurry following the terrorist attacks so that it can exert control over the Sikh community, rather than help them. The terrorist attacks were the ideal excuse to do this, as they appeared to turn the Sikhs into victims needing, indeed begging for, government intervention and "protection". There is a broader plan in place (I call it "the battle for control of HEARTS and MINDS") to take control of all the "faith communities" by putting government-appointed stewards in charge. Their powers will be indirectly exerted through the race legislation and the forthcoming "incitement to religious hatred" laws. Very vaguely worded laws designed to catch everyone out, so you can always single out troublesome political opponents when you want/need to. You don't need 'em. Protection is available from elsewhere. Make a deal with the devil and lose your own soul into the bargain.

Nicked from sikhsangat.com: "In the picture below outside 10 Downing Street those shown from left to right are Adam Holloway MP, Sir Peter Soulsby MP, Mark Pritchard MP, Bhai Amrik Singh - Chair, Sikh Federation (UK), Dominic Grieve MP, John Austin MP (for Erith where the first Gurdwara was attacked following the terrorist atrocities last Thursday) and representives of the Sikh youth." 1) Who appointed the APPG members? 2) Whose idea was it (i.e. who consulted with who, to bring the APPG about)? 3) Who exactly do the "representatives of the Sikh youth" represent? 4) Do you enjoy being caricatured?

Hi harsingh. I got this pic from SikhSangat.com.

He's the one responsible for catching the terrorists who bombed London, and also stopping racist retaliations against minority communities. I'm sure he fills everyone with confidence...

Chief Commissioner of Metropolitan Police (London, UK). Trying to say and do what he's supposed to: