sikh_apprentice

thats what i thought, but apparently not.

Is all types of forced conversion wrong. my cousins used to go to sikh camps, when they were younger, and a lot of the time, not all, sikhism was forced upon them. is this wrong?

hahaha

i cant remember that one, nor can i find it. any links?

Thanx for clearing that up. but who is the dalai lama then.

no problem dude.

Fantastic bhajo-bhaji (do u watch cricket?) if i could rep u on these boards i would. uve bought forth a few good stories. another one about thorns and roses i heard was in a song sung by babbu mann, where the thorns protect the rose or flower their whole life, and then a bee swoops in and takes the nectar, reffering to non-indian guys coming to india and marrying all the girls, leaving the poor indian boys with no-one.

i love it when they shove their guns into the ground. p.s. ive never heard sunny deol reffered to as funny before. imo, his heart was in the right place he just offended some people along the way. he was good in gadar, and bhagat singh aswell.

check this out: http://www.pithemovie.com/kaba.html

Mathematicians are always on the search of maths related theories which explain well everything. for example, in the movie, pi, a mathematician uses fibonacci numbers and a specific 280odd digit number to prove our existence, and everything that happens in nature. this isnt hollywood science either, its fact, people really do search for stuff like this. "My new Hypothesis: If we're built from Spirals while living in a giant Spiral, then is it possible that everything we put our hands to is infused with the Spiral?" -- Max Cohen in the motion picture pi. ie fingerprints, galaxies, shells, black holes, weather systems, planetry orbits, electrons in an atom, electrons in an electric field, particles on collision. u could think of millions of examples and they are summed up by fibonacci numbers etc. What as sikhs is our take on this subject. do we take it as truthful or what. it doesnt challenge God or anything, not in my view, but many mathematicians and scientists are atheists or skeptists because of theories like this.

Dont buddhists believe that buddha was the incarnation of god, and since then buddha has been incarnated as the dalai lama, which has been passed onto many dalai lamas. on the topic of the current dalai lama he must be the most cheerful, and humerous of all the religious leaders. i saw michael palin interview him on"himalaya with michael palin." he also visited Sri Harmandir shaib ji, and stay overnight in the accomadation in the Gurdwara complex for 65p per night.

Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, Page 1288 http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.g...=t&id=55097 page 145 http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.g...h=t&id=5967 page902 http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.g...=t&id=38530 courtesy: sikhi wiki

In my honest opinion the state of mind of the overall population is characteristic of kalyug. I agree it is we who must save ourselves. but how can i, or us sitting here at home be an influence on the proceedings in the world. surely that is up to God.

Excellent.

If u watch the omen trilogy, the antichrist is the son of the devil borne from a virgin rottweiler(opposed to jesus as the son of god borne to the virgin mary). he is adopted into a highly political family with strong contacts(american ambassador to england) and builds up an army to eventually destroy the world, ala hitler. it is a movie, so dont take it literally. p.s. the antichrist isnt anti-christianity, but intent on destroying the world.

yep ur right. man jeete jag jeet, was filmed in jallandhar(my family's home town) and my uncle made a brief cameo in the scene where the dakus give themselves up to the authorities(incidently exactly when this song is playing)

Do we believe in kali yuga the same way hindus believe it (started when krishna was born and will last 430,000 years), i know that we do not base it on the stars in the sky etc. Are we in kali yuga? According to the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, we are in kali yuga. for example: Those who act like tyrants are accepted and approved - recognize that this is the sign of the Dark Age of Kali Yuga. ||1||Pause|| -president bush can be interpreted as a tyrant (injust war in iraq etc), and is obviously accepted and looked up to in western civilisation. If someone practices Truth, he is frustrated; prosperity does not come to the home of the sincere. If someone chants the Lord’s Name, he is scorned. These are the signs of Kali Yuga. ||3| - The birth and disease of atheism, bible-bashing, koran-bashing etc are spreading uncontrrollably like wildfire. Anyone who believes in god is seen as a fundamentalist etc, even in our kaum. The trouble-maker is called a leader, and the liar is seated with honor. O Nanak, the Gurmukhs know that this is justice in the Dark Age of Kali Yuga. ||1|| -Again president bush in the west, and islamic extremists in the east. both are equally wrong and fighting for an injust cause, and people like bin laden, abu hamza, al-zaqarwi(sp?) are seen as leaders. The Dark Age of Kali Yuga is the knife, and the kings are butchers; righteousness has sprouted wings and flown away. In this dark night of falsehood, the moon of Truth is not visible anywhere. I have searched in vain, and I am so confused; in this darkness, I cannot find the path. In egotism, they cry out in pain. Says Nanak, how will they be saved? ||1|| -The world is becoming diseased with evil, its on the rise, and i cant see it stopping. this era must be the darkest the world has ever seen. Blatent disregard for life, waging of war in the name of god were innocent people are losing their lives and are afraid. how will we be saved?

what if ur not married and trying to find a partner.

i know gurmukhi, but i have to cross refernce to understand what it means, and as im nott very good at reaing it, i sometimes make mistakes (chooti bani) which is a paap. so i think ill stick with english for now.

I thought we dont believe in a sacred language, all language is the language of the lord.

Jagjit singh has a new version of mitar pyare noon, in his trademark ghazal style. im not sure of the video however, it looks like a depiction of god or a guru in human form, i dunno, i may be wrong.

http://www.sikhnet.com/Sikhnet/Music.nsf/d...07!OpenDocument Ustad Nusrat fateh ali khan's famous qawali interpretation of mitar pyare noon.

http://www.sikhnet.com/Sikhnet/Music.nsf/d...bb!OpenDocument ill put up the mohammad rafi collection.

http://www.sikhnet.com/Sikhnet/Music.nsf/5...f4!OpenDocument this one is great aswell.