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Politician bashing is favourate thing in India and I think in democratic world too.The question is, are people of Punjab soo stupid that they don't know the side effect of drugs?.SGPC don't force them to take drugs,to cut their hair ,to go to Dera.They do it with their wish.No Doubt SGPC should have done more prachar of sikhi ,but its the people ultimately who have to decide what to do

Well That is famous Indian kahavat Literal - Creatures infesting the wheat are ground along with it (on the grind stone). anyway what i am trying to say is that they will impose restrictions to curtail islam and its practices and they will also impose them on sikhs too Like Turban ban which mainly directed at muslims headscarf but because they cannot impose it on muslims so they will impose condtions on religious symbols and indirectly mkany turbaned sikhs will find themself in difficult situation

Its obvious That he is Going to be sikh.He will whatever that suits his business whether it is going to be keshdhari or mona

Gegun ke saath ghun bh pista haio Well the condition of sikh will be like like ghun.

France is formulating a strict new law under which women who wear full-length veils (burqa) in public places will have to pay a fine of over 750 Euro. The amount could be doubled for Muslim men who force their wives or other female members of their to cover their faces, The Daily Mail has reported. Jean-Francois Cope, president of Nicolas Sarkozy's ruling UMP Party in the French parliament, said the new was intended to protect the 'dignity' and 'security' of women. He is set to file the draft law in the National Assembly after Sarkozy said veils are 'not welcome' as they intimidate and alienate non-Muslims, especially in a secular country like France. "We want a ban in public areas," said Cope, making clear that the veil would not be allowed in public buildings, or on the streets of France, as it encourages extremism. Cope said, "The wearing of the burqas will be subject to a fine, probably of the 4th class, which is to say 750 Euros." He said the fine would apply to 'all people on the public street whose face is entirely covered'. A parliamentary inquiry into the wearing of all-body burqas and naqabs is due to publish its recommendations next month, the report said. __________________

http://www.hindustantimes.com/newdelhi/2nd-Indian-killed-in-Oz-Centre-issues-advisory/494461/H1-Article1-494262.aspx A half-burnt body found in the town of Griffith, New South Wales, Australia, was identified on Tuesday as that of Ranjodh Singh (25), who left India a year ago to study management. Singh is the second Indian to be killed in Australia since the attacks began. Nitin Garg (21), also a student, was stabbed to death in Melbourne on Sunday. In Delhi, the External Affairs Ministry on Tuesday issued an advisory: “The ministry… cautions Indians planning to study in Australia that there have been several incidents of robbery and assault on Indians…, particularly in Melbourne.” It advised those already in Australia to keep to well-lit, populated areas and not to travel alone at night. Singh’s parents, Gurmail Singh, a flourmill owner, and Paramjit Kaur, residents of Patiala’s Alhoran village, are in shock. “Now everything is lost,” said Gurnail, who had taken a Rs 5.5 lakh loan for Ranjodh. Singh left for a party on December 27 and never returned. His body was discovered two days later, his face disfigured. An aunt in Australia identified him from his clothes.

Don't worry even after 20 years I am sure we have Anti DG,pro DG ,anti meat pro meat and other issue's fighting with each other believing that they are saving sikhism from RSS,GOI,kala afghana,atheists islam etc

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jan/03/indian-youth-killed-in-melbourne-cops-rule-out-racist-attack.htm A 21-year-old Indian youth with permanent residency in Australia [ Images ] was on Sunday fatally stabbed in the abdomen by unidentified assailants in Melbourne [ Images ] while on his way to work, the first death in a slew of vicious attacks on the community members. Nitin Garg, who migrated from Punjab [ Images ], was attacked in a park when he was walking towards fast-food joint Hungry Jack's, where he worked part-time. He staggered into the restaurant on the corner of Somerville Road and Geelong Road, West Footscray, about 10 pm local time Saturday night (0330 hrs IST Sunday) and pleaded for help before collapsing. He was taken to the Royal Melbourne Hospital but later died, according to TV reports. The police said the youth from Newport had travelled to Yarraville train station about 9.30 pm local time (0300 hrs IST), then walked along Anderson Street to Cruickshank Park, where he was stabbed in the abdomen. He managed to stumble some 300 metres to Hungry Jack's restaurant. Homicide Squad Senior Sergeant Dave Snare described it as a vicious attack. He said at this stage there was no known motive and there was no evidence the youth was targeted because of his race. "I think to draw any conclusion as to the motive may interfere with the investigation and would be presumptuous at this stage," he said. The police were trying to contact relatives of the victim, a single man who had permanent residency in Australia, abroad to determine if he had any family in Australia. Nearly 100 cases of attacks on Indians had been reported in Australia in 2009 as against 17 incidents of assaults in 2008. Garg, who is the first Indian to be attacked this year, is the first victim of such assaults to succumb to his injuries. His friends said he feared for his safety following a previous attack, local media reported, without mentioning when it had happened. His housemate, Parminder Singh, said his friend was nervous after being beaten up by a group of men at the Newport railway station. "They were just drunk and they wanted to find anyone to beat," Singh was quoted as saying by ABC News. "If they find someone alone they just beat (them) because they know nothing is going to happen after that. "What will happen now? The police will not do anything, they will just take them to the jail or just let them sit there, they will give them food and all facilities so they're not scared of anything." Senior Sergeant Snare said the police had not found a weapon yet. "We've had forensic out at examining the scene out at Hungry Jack's and in the park and also, with the assistance of the SES (State Emergency Service), we've done a line search through the park area," he said. The police were awaiting the results of a post-mortem examination on the victim. Sen Sgt Snare said at this stage the police had no leads and urged witnesses to come forward. "We'd appeal for any witnesses around the area of Cruickshank Park, the residences there and people around Anderson Street and the railway station who saw any suspicious activity," he was quoted as saying by Australian Associated Press. The police particularly wanted to hear from a group of people in the park earlier that night. They said there was no suggestion these people were involved in the attack, but they could help the investigation. Some of the victim's belongings were found in the park and the police has asked locals to report anything they might find. Natasha Chaku in Melbour

With sikhs their relation is absolutely fine because No where we found sizeable muslims and sikhs living side by side.Sikhs don't hate them like many Hindu's so they too respect sikhs.My brother is in MCA course and one of his teacher was muslim who studied in a sikh school and he used to praise sikhs a lot.He was also very generous on sikh students too including my brother. With Hindu's Riots,dispute fights are inevitable.Thier number is increasing day by day with Bangladeshi illegal migrants coming in large number everywhere they will compete with Hindu's.Also Kashmir dispute ,pakistan all just increase hatred towards muslims.So Relations between hindu's and muslims are not going to be good in future.

O.K. in Britain Sikhs have good representation and they can do what is best to safeguard their interest but what about other parts of Europe and world.Already in Australia the worst sufferer among Indian student attacks were sikhs Actually this is our new image Best chamchays .We have Manmohan singh leading in this who got the post of PM ship through chamcha giri

There is a kahavat in Hindi Gehun ke saath ghun bhi pista hai.Condition of sikhs is going to be like a ghun The more they attack the white's the more white's will retaliate on all.This means more racist attacks on Turbanned sikhs.imposition of restrictions on 5 ks,Private sector hesistating to give employment to sikhs too.So along with Muslims sikhs are also going to be at receiving end

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/31/AR2009123102332_2.html?sid=ST2009123103109 British universities sometimes seen as breeding grounds for radical Islam Gallery The failed plane bombing in Detroit A Nigerian man, claiming to be linked to al-Qaeda, allegedly tried to set off an incendiary device aboard a trans-Atlantic airplane on Christmas Day as it descended toward Detroit's airport. The White House called it an attempted act of terrorism. LONDON -- The case of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian man accused in the attempted bombing of a U.S. airliner, has reinvigorated a debate about whether British universities are being used as breeding grounds for radical Islam. This Story Bombing reports start trickling in to Obama Radical Islam often fomented in college Officials eye cleric's ties to suspect in jet plot View All Items in This Story For three years, Abdulmutallab made the short journey from his apartment in central London to an 11-story brown brick building at University College London (UCL), where he was enrolled as a mechanical engineering student. Before him, Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, who was convicted in connection with the 2002 murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, attended the London School of Economics. British citizens Asif Mohammed Hanif and Omar Khan Sharif were enrolled at King's College London before launching a suicide attack in Tel Aviv in 2003. While those cases -- and others -- hardly suggest that extremists have infiltrated Britain's campuses, experts say there is evidence that Muslims who adopt radical ideologies frequently do so during their formative years in college. Abdulmutallab, now 23, was president of UCL's Islamic society. And according to Anthony Glees, a professor of security and intelligence studies at the University of Buckingham, he is the fourth president of a university Islamic society to be linked to terrorism-related offenses in recent years. One of the former presidents, Waheed Zaman, is being retried for his alleged connection with a plot to bomb transatlantic airliners in 2006. Like many university organizations, Islamic student societies fill an important social role for students, said Usama Hasan, a former Islamic society president at three British universities and now a university lecturer. But he said that they can also foment fundamentalist ideas and can be aided by guest speakers who "are very narrow-minded and extreme." Hasan said that Islamic societies have scratched off many of the most radical Islamic preachers from their speaking rosters. The voice of Anwar al-Aulaqi, for example, the Yemen-based cleric who has come under scrutiny in the Christmas Day plot, is banned from Britain. Even so, he can still be heard frequently on some British campuses via video link during conferences and other events. "It's worrying," Hasan said. "He is charismatic, and some students listen to him." Abdulmutallab graduated with an undergraduate degree in mechanical engineering and business finance in June 2008. Less than a year later, he sought a second visa to study in Britain -- a course in "life coaching," according to British media reports -- but was turned down for applying to a nonexistent institution. During his time at UCL, he organized a conference called "War on Terror Week" at the university. One event at the conference was billed as "a lecture on the Islamic position with respect to jihad and other issues." It remains unclear when Abdulmutallab underwent an ideological transformation. He was far from being described as a firebrand radical, and his former teachers, classmates and acquaintances in London have expressed surprise about the allegations against him. Malcolm Grant, the UCL provost, said in an interview that the school was "completely shocked" by the news. He said that he has spoken to Abdulmutallab's tutors, who "found it impossible to tell the difference between him and any other student." Abdulmutallab, in fact, was "well-mannered, quietly spoken, polite." The Federation of Student Islamic Societies, an umbrella organization that represents 90,000 students in Islamic societies across Britain, said there was "nothing in his behavior during this time that would indicate that he would commit these alleged acts." __________________

I know that's why i am more curious to know the source O/W if we will quote this on Non sikh forum then they will clearly call it a sikh propaganda with no base

Amardeep ji If you don't mind could you please quote the source of above and about the authenticity details of above

Admin ji I think quotes are not working please look at problem

Harjas kaur I think you don't understand politics.Politicians only attack a community when they know that majority is against them.take example of Raj thackerey he is attacking Bihari's and in return he is getting votes of mArathis,in the same way Delhi politicians got vote after 84 riots.Tell me Why were tamilians not attcaked in 91 when Rajiv was killed.One community paid price for Indira's death by 5000 innocent people other community did not get 1 person killed.Also it is widely known that sentiments of Hindu community was like sikh deserved what they got.Very very few leaders of that time came to their help. Every day thousands of crimes are committed and I don't blame criminals religion unless the crime is motivated by religious hatred

Harjas kaur No amount of Your big posts on Hindu sikh brotherhood could change the fact that largest minority community killed after partition In India in Riots are sikhs in 1984. Let me show you something from non sikh unbiased account what there analsys was for the reason of 1984 riots http://www.massviolence.org/The-1984-Anti-Sikhs-pogroms-in-New-Dehli?artpage=6#outil_sommaire_5 Citizens for Democracy even went further by stating that this pogrom was primarily meant «to arouse passion within the majority community – Hindu chauvinism – in order to consolidate Hindu votes in the election held on December 27, 1984, which was indeed massively won by the Congress (I) (Rao & al., 1985: 1).

Mithar ji If you have some time then please read the following link you will get lot of information http://www.bharatvani.org/books/imwat/ch5.htm the only thing I want to quote from above link is this Kingsley Davis rightly remarks that “in six decades (1881-1941)… at no census have the Muslims failed to improve their percentage and the Hindus failed to lose…” It is due not only to the “proportion of Muslim women married, but those who are married also have a higher fertility.”48 Today every seventh man in the world is a Muslim,49 and in this great rise of Muslim population their high fertility should have contributed its share. ----------------------------------------------------

Its good that in Canada sikhs particulary women are least marrying outside Religion.but with Canadian census you cannot say that it is true for the entire sikh community.I think the situation is worse in Urban Indian cities

Muslim population in Indian subcontinent in 1881 was 19.93% something Today it is 34% .Can we say it is white man's propaganda? Higher Birth rate of Muslims is reality and That's why it is used by Their opponents Group Like BNP in UK and RSS in India.Also if you read Articles of some social scientists then they clearly say that White people's Birth rate is seriously low,so it is obvious that they get worried about it. And if some misguided people are using Muslims For entire brown people then they are fools.I don't know from where the question white racism comes here.It is bad and rejected by majority of white's but now it is the turn of muslims to show their liberal attituide inn all countries.but instead of that they are moving more and more towards shariat

http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/punjab/Fake-weddings-made-to-order-in-Punjab/Article1-487837.aspx The yearning to settle abroad has turned illegal travel into a lucrative business in Punjab. Undaunted by reports of frauds, tales of treacherous desertion between borders, starvation, near-fatal encounters and even prison terms, billboards and advertisements in vernacular dailies offering quick visas remain alluring for many. The arrangement for contract marriages is simple: a local English-speaking woman with the required scores in the International English Language Testing System enters a fake wedding alliance. The foreign-based man pays for her visa process. Once abroad, they go their separate ways. For marriage palace owners, these alliances are money-spinners. They arrange the entire wedding scene — the party, guests, friends and relatives who pose for photographs to go with the visa. “Business is booming,” said Mohinder Singh, the owner of one such venue here. At the tehsil offices, fake marriage registration certificates are sold for anything between Rs 10,000 and Rs 20,000, an agent told HT. When this correspondent visited offices of about a dozen immigration consultants in Moga, posing as a student aspiring to study abroad, he was told no original documents would be required. For a UK visa, all the paperwork would be arranged for Rs 500,000 to Rs 700,000. The sum would cover tuition fees for the first semester, the consultants claimed. A student visa requires a statement of account showing up to Rs 20 lakh (Rs 2 million) in cash, depending on the course and the country. The financers are all too happy to lend — at high rates of interest, of course. Aware of such frauds, foreign consulates have devised means to verify facts. Immigration consultant Arun Kumar said, “Most visa refusal cases cite false evidence of funds or suspicious wedding alliances.” But in Punjab, the gullible are still willing to part with land and home for a chance at a life on foreign shores.

In hinduism there are lakhs of different pracitices.No one can say that what is allowed and what is not allowed

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/indians-abroad/Sikh-youth-attacked-in-Texas/articleshow/5355014.cms WASHINGTON: A Sikh graduate student, working as a part-time pizza delivery person, was thrown into a swimming pool and brutally assaulted in West Texas, according to the Sikh Coalition, a community advocacy group. When the young man, whose identity has been withheld for his protection, brought pizzas for delivery into a home, four men took the pizzas and started eating without paying, while hurling racial epithets and threatening him. "I'm going to **** you up in Iraq, I'm going to **** you up in Afghanistan, I'm going to **** you up over here," they were quoted as saying by the Coalition in a media release. But it did not say when the incident took place. The four men then grabbed the Sikh student and threw him into a swimming pool. The four attackers surrounded the pool, kicking him in the head and body. Every time he tried to escape, they would stomp or hit at him. For 20 minutes, he swam for his life trying to escape. He eventually seized an opportunity to flee and barely made it to his car with two men in pursuit, the community group said. Though the local police were called shortly after the attack, they failed to respond adequately, the community group alleged. The police classified the incident as a misdemeanor, which means that the attackers may not have to serve any jail time, it said. The local police also did not file the incident as a hate crime, the group said. "It is clear from the attackers' references to 'bin Laden' and 'Go back to Afghanistan' and the fact that they kicked off his turban that this assault targeted not only him as an individual, but his Sikh identity." However the Department of Justice (DOJ) is currently investigating the matter as a possible federal hate crime after being contacted when the local police department refused to prosecute the attackers for hate crime, the Sikh Coalition said.

Could you please tell me what are the relations of Muslims with Hindu Gujarati's ,Tamils and other non white communities? May be they do not like punjabi kunjar culture but I think it should mainly blamed on strict islamic norms where they believe that they should not associate with kafirs

I think sikhs are quite money minded community.Everywhere we see them becoming Rich and with richness its obvious a community become soft Police always have soft corner for their community.The only exception is Punjab police who do not hesistate to fire at their own sikh brothers. And who is responsible for that? After 1984 sikhs had soft corner for muslims but in UK Muslims have shown their true colors. May be history repeating itself 1857 sikhs joined Britishers against revolt predominantly a muslim one. and that was just after 9 years they lost to britishers everything