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  1. http://www.sikhawareness.com//index.php?showtopic=12264 Jattboot - PM your e-mail, I have a Christmas present for you :-)
  2. Sex with a child is a punishable crime according to Prem Sumarg. It is also akin to rape/abuse in most cultures in the world so does not need Sikhi to highlight it. Age for marriage is a cultural issue - in the Punjabi Sikh culture until the last few decades, Sikhs have generally been married around the age of 18 in my research. Although my grandparents were married younger. In my opinion it is good for people to get married early, stops one making mistakes and allows a couple to grow up together (mentally) and be closer/stronger later in life with as they have been friends since childhood.
  3. It's not just our druggies that are now common, but also our drug dealers. This is a perfect example of what is commonly known in criminal circles - your faith or background means jack. When I was young, it was no secret Pakistani and Indian Punjabi criminals insulted each other (based on faith) in front of their homies, and held hands together in secret. Taken from yesterdays Evening Standard. An air hostess smuggled kilos of cocaine into Britain because Canadian flight crew are ignored by Customs officers, a court heard. Mandeep Shahi, 27, took advantage of her job with Air Canada to take £250,000 of the class A drug on board in her bag. After breezing past security at Heathrow in March, she delivered the drugs to former public schoolboy Simon Howard-Harwood, 28, at a hotel in Regent's Park. The blue Air Canada bag was then passed to retired minicab driver Ghulem Malik, 53, of Southall, who had a kilo of cocaine when stopped by police, Southwark crown court was told. A raid on Howard-Harwood found another three kilos of the drug. After delivering the cocaine Shahi bought a £200 handbag and returned to Canada but was arrested in August when she next flew to Britain, having been identified from CCTV of the drop. Judge Michael Gledhill said the deal had been set up by Baljinder Nijjar, 28, and his cousin Bhupinder Sanghera, Shahi's then fiancé and now husband. The judge told Shahi: “You knew from your seven or eight previous visits as air crew that the chances of your person or luggage being searched was nil.” Howard-Harwood, of Waterlooville, Hampshire, was sentenced to nine years and Nijjar, of Southall, was jailed for 12 years. They had admitted conspiracy to supply prohibited drugs. Shahi and Malik were acquitted of the conspiracy charge, but found guilty of possession of class A drugs with intent to supply. Shahi wept as she was jailed for eight years. Malik, who was also convicted of possession of class C drugs with intent, got three years.
  4. Or history is very new. Nearly all is verified by independant sources (non-Sikh historians/authorities) of that time. Plus the location of most important events are commemorated with a Guru Ghar built on that site (with memorobilia). So I don't really see the need for archaeological digs.... many artifacts are held by private families to this day - that outside one can get a metal detector and search for rusted weapons at the battlefields of Anandpur Sahib etc if they really want to... :-)
  5. Why do you sound surprised Dalsingh, the Evil Slave Drivers aren't Muslim, so it doesn't count. Response - bring on a video of a dog getting slapped around.
  6. As of late, one which is perfectly at home here :-) “The secret of eternal youth is arrested development." Alice Roosevelt Longworth, US author (1884-1980)
  7. http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=464334032902 Amardeep kindly shared the above link with us, I thought it deserved it's own thread (promotion) so that the compassionate amongst us can give something to help this great man continue his most pristine seva. Bhagat Puran Singh Ji sadly remains unmatched/unique in the last hundred years in our Panth - his spirituality was manifested through that seva which we all turn a blind eye to. A man become a Saint in different ways - but my sincere belief is that quiet/honest/compassionate 'actions' are the highest ideal. Punjab should be producing thousands of Akshayas, but sadly, the company of these Angelic beings escapes us. Please give what you can to help this cause - and let us remember (medidtate on) Sachai Patshah Sri Guru Harkrishn Ji - from who some of the greatest men to have walked this Earth like Bhai Kanaiya and Bhagat Puran Singh Ji took divine inspiration. Vaheguru
  8. Pir Sahib will not share the diary at present - his view is that Sikhs are not read for it/in a state to appreciate it. Amardeep has made some good points and Bhen Harjas and Veer MJ - excellent posts. SDP - the beautiful hukumnama you posted which you did ardaas for is absolutely amazing - all your questions are answered within. Namely - being less concerned with rituals (namaaz) and more concerned with finding Sadhu Sangat (which is no easy task by any means - with the massive number of fakes out there today). Your sad experience with Sikhs is not so uncommon - this is the most common reason the vast majority of our youth are disenchanted with Sikhi - because those in the game are so snobby - or because they see many that follow our rituals (simran, kirtan, nitnem) to still be full of vices - which makes them loose their interest/faith in Gurus path. But as is true for all man - in all corners of the Earth, whatever their home maybe called - the true understanders and practitioners of 'Religion' are few. Vaheguru has created so many paths to test us. If there was one path - it would be easy for everyone. With so many paths - our fatih is tested to see if we stay on the one shown/given to us, if we are able to understand and practice tolerance, respect, compassion and universal brotherhood with those that are on other paths, if we are able to practice nimrata/control our hankaar by not shouting that 'ours is the only way' and all others are wrong. Sadly, the mainstream/large boy/present representatives of all faiths (inc) our seemed to have failed. Which makes us look at Gurbani for answers and all is made clear. The journey should not be based on others (of any chosen faith), but on our reading, understanding, practice, interaction, introspection. Once Gurus pavitar hand has been placed on our sinful heads - our world view will change - and all will be seen as one - all will be respected - but the differences will be appreciated and understood, rather than chastised. Lastly - I agree with Amardeep - there have been/are/will be Muslim/Hindu Sikhs, (I have even met Buddist Sikhs) - in fact anyone from any denomination can be a Sikh - because Gurbani is Jagat Guru - and Gurus sweet words are the fragrance on any full glass of milk. But 'Singhs' have always strictly been followers of Guru Gobind Singh Maharaj only - as there job is to protect and promote the unadulterated message of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
  9. At Hazur Sahib: Khadag and Ghaggar (Didn't know this was also a name for the Kora..?) Kataar and Bichwaa (nicest I've ever seen :-) Karabi (looks like a sawn off shortgun, first time I've seen this also) Khanda and Saif (with hand armour) Chakkar and Suadarshan Chakkar (I want one!!!) Guruj and Bajjar (that is the baddest I have seen - 2 axe blades on one side!) - for killing Titans. karamati Srri Sahib and the beautiful Gajga/Ashtpuja/Durga (Gurus battle standard) Akali Phoolas Singhs Tega (waaaa) Sri Sahib if M - Ranjit Singh Ji Tir of Dasam Pita Kard of Dasam Pita (although they call it a kirpan) The traditional tilak ceremony: Darshan of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Maharaj
  10. Sorry, title should read dastaar. Very nice. Some beautiful poetry.
  11. A modern day classic - Kung Fu Panda! If you haven't watched this, you have to - it's absolutely brilliant LOL. My daughters favorite film at present - it portrays of 5 famous Chinese animal fighting systems, has a better than Yoda (Star Wars) Baba, a scary villain and a hilarious hero who is very much akin to a Punjabi LOL. Great entertainment - and way to get your kids (or even you) interested in martial arts!!
  12. Another classic and great film - The Snake in the Monkey's Shadow Follow the user 'SujeewaPunchihewa's recordings as they are complete - others on YT are edited. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS0D3etgbYs This is a great film showing some excellent examples of Drunken, Monkey and Snake systems. They are all 'smokey' but within the cinematic choreography there are some excellent examples of their applications and principles. Monkey - is fast, aggressive and uses many tricks and the element of surprise - it also teaches great baiting skills. Snake is very powerful and utilises 3/4 dangerous hand strikes (although only the stereotypical one is shown here) strikes are always to vulnerable parts of the body, particularly cavities. It is also powerful in re-directing/controlling attacks. Drunken - I like all 3 systems, but this is probably my favourite as it teaches one to be totally soft and uses great body mechanics to evade strikes and excellent positioning to respond to them, contrary to belief, you don't actually need to act (or be) drunk! The drunken element simply refers to the more confident and relaxed state of mind/body has after consuming alchohol (this is not an advert or condonement for a glassy btw!). It's this relaxed mentality that teaches one to control tension - which is very dangerous in a fight if you don't know what you are doing. Tension in an opponent is basically the premise that many controlling/locking/twisting/grappling martial arts work on. Take away the tension - and you successfully have the basis for countering all these tension needing arts. Tension basically allows one to read your intentions and makes you 'commit'. Enjoy the film - it also contains a great fight scene between a real Monkey and Cobra :-)
  13. “Conversation about the weather is the last refuge of the unimaginative.” Oscar Wilde, Irish writer, poet, and prominent aesthete
  14. Apologies for the exaggeration, my facts are based on news stories I have read over the years (which as you correctly say are sensationilsed) but also based on meeting what I call 'Punjabi trash' from CA who were openly proud about what they and their 'famous' cousins go up to in CA (which again as you say, is probably a slight over exaggeration). My point was simply that we also have comparable examples - I also sadly grew up around many Sikh/Punjabi criminal elements in the areas where I lived, so know that poor education/poverty does not see faiths/cultures - where I grew up, yardies/apnay/kashmiris/pks/gorai were all up to one and the same, there were no bounderies - all were as bad as each other - this is primarily because it was a poor and rough area. Even today, all around the world - we see the same sort of crimes - which are usually nearly always focused around poorer areas. There are always exceptions to the rule - and this is where those examples of Punjabi trash from BC can be used, youth from a stable and fairly wealthy family, who just want to live the hip hop life. These examples exist in drones in the UK, US and Punjab also. And exist in most communities all over the world. The term 'Muslim' needs to be used carefully here. There are many succesful Muslim communities in the UK inc Iranian, Iraqi, Moroccan, Algerian, Malaysian, Indonesian, Ismaili etc. In my epxerience in latter years, I also see that the Pakistani community in London, esp where I live in SW London is hugely successful. With the Hospitals, Accountancy firms, Law firms and Public Sector filled with many PK, hell, even the MP who got Eddie Milliband into power and is now in the Shadow Cabinet, Sadique Khan is from my part of town. I agree there does seem to be a disproportionate number of crimes commited by the PK community amongst the Asians - but this goes hand in hand with PK commnuities, particularly from the North ex-industrial areas - being very poor. Radicalisation and isolation in the UK also plays a big part. Same stigma was applied to Jamaicans before/after the Brixton riots (when most people used to associate all crime with 'blacks'), before the Africans came here and becamse so massively successful.
  15. Yes you are right to a degree, but the age range of the girls was varied, not just 12. It was more a matter of opportunity. The apnay I speak of also didn't pay much attention to age, it was common for them to intice and go with school girls. Another thing to consider if talking about 'communities' is the massive sex industry in India, prob the biggest in the world with high aids %. This industry is famous for grooming and kidnapping children to feed the gigantic demand, sadly, most are orphans or from very poor families, the most vulnerable. Another thing re your point is that apnay are not just promiscious, they target (or at least used) white girls. At the same time I have grown up seeing a mentality in certain jaaths that girls from lower castes are easy game, and it is their purpose to entertain the higher castes. This sick attitude still exists in Punjab and UK today amongst certain sections of the 'higher castes'. This is no different to pk targeting non pk. Re the lack of example re apnay - do we not run the drug and pimping trade in BC? The biggest shame of it is the fact the we no longer have respect for apnian anymore (that doesn't justify targeting others) our girls are treated like common whores up by our own folk up and down the country, egged on by our Great portrayel of them on Brit Asia, and we have the audacity to complain if outsiders take advantage....
  16. What these monsters did was unforgivable - and I am sure they will get their just reward. Maha Singh has a valid point about not only the teenage girls having to share some blame, but more so, their irresponsible parents. Regarding which 'quarter' is more involved in this activity than any others - than maybe you should look at the domination of child/girl/woman sex abuse/rape/prostitution/exploitation amongst the Eastern Europeans - who control this game not only in mainland Europe, but also the UK. No other community even gets a look in. And these people abduct their women as well as any others they can get their hands on. The reason Muslim women don't end up involved (in a large scale) on the victimisation end, is because they are 'generally' brought up to have more respect for themselves and not allowed to wonder around the streets half naked at 12pm. I recall when growing up, many apnay would have a token 'white' girlfriends, with only one intention. To entetain them until their respectful girl was found from a poor family in Punjab. The culture of these Pk (which included one Akshay Kumar..) is simply hip hop culture, I am surprised this is not getting mentioned. Even amongst the blacks in the older days - the 'entertainment' used to be targeted amongst the latino and white trash communities.
  17. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1duhjSvZIAg&feature=&p=701ECF40969D8944&index=0&playnext=1 The film should automatically load the next chapter. The Prodigal Son - thought of by many as the best Kung Fu movie - definately is the best Wing Chun movie. Although Kung Fu is dramatised for 'cinema', some films have excellent exhibitions of application within them. This film on the other hand is also as great entertainment as you can get - hilarious, alongside some great characters and fight scenes. Enjoy.
  18. Im not sure if the Hanafi school had power in Mecca in the 16th century, but excellent research none the less. Well done. In anycase, the claim that Guru Nanak was a practicing Muslim falls down on many parts, esp as Guru Ji also visited many non Muslim religious sites and partook in their rituals (the correct way :-) this would be considered haraam. Guru Jis philosophy certainly had much in common with Sufi and bhakti thought, but not law/ritual ridden mainstream Islamic or Hindu thought.
  19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_3lA4Mw-gg Contrary to some stereotypes that are always kicking around here, many Muslims in Indonesia are proud and protective of the culture of their ancestors - be it animistic or Hindu (same is true in the Phillipines).
  20. Ishvar Singh, kindly post the name of the Author for poems you have posted.
  21. “There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line.” Oscar Levant, pianist, composer, author, comedian, and actor
  22. Lovely poems, especially the last one - very basic in terms of style, but profound none the less! Also, if he have any 'poets' here, please do share your work. But kindly keep this thread serious :-)
  23. Lovely poems, especially the last one - very basic in terms of style, but profound none the less! Also, if he have any 'poets' here, please do share your work. But kindly keep this thread serious :-)
  24. Invictus by William Ernest Henley Out of the night that covers me, Black as the Pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul. In the fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud. Under the bludgeonings of chance My head is bloody, but unbowed. Beyond this place of wrath and tears Looms but the Horror of the shade, And yet the menace of the years Finds, and shall find, me unafraid. It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll. I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.
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