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    amardeep got a reaction from hsingh6 in Nidar Singh Nihang's translation of Charitro Pakhyan is out   
    Not talking about you specifically here, - just a generel observation
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    amardeep got a reaction from Soulfinder in Basics of sikhi one year after the passing of Bhai Jagraj Singh   
    I think there is a lot of potential in their Canadian parcharak Harnam Singh. He seems to have been schooled in samprdayic traditions as he brings up vedant terminology every now and then and he also does Katha of passages from Suraj Prakash Granth. I think he will definately be a moving star for the BOS. 
     
    See one example here in this series from a Sikhan Di Bhagat Mala sakhi 
    Nanak Naam is another ngo that is really popular and adds weight to Sikh philosophy in a western language mainly targeting western audiences. 
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    amardeep got a reaction from Soulfinder in Basics of sikhi one year after the passing of Bhai Jagraj Singh   
    “The one podcast” by shabad singh Khalsa is another one to keep eyes on. It’s a radio show where he interviews researchers, artists, political activists, authors, scholars etc in regards to bringing out the deeper aspects of sikhi by people of knowledge. 
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    amardeep got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Eye Witness Account Of Amrit Ceremony Of 1699   
    Thats a rather weird way to put it and to look beyond the original purpose of the test. So you think that Guru Angad ate a human corpse since Guru Nanak asked him to do so, and Guru Nanak would never go back on his word??
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    amardeep got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Jagtar Singh Jaggi Petition   
    “Sovereignty is not something you ask for. It’s something you demand!” - krishnaavatar
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    amardeep got a reaction from Premi in Guru Hargobind And Painde Khan   
    PAINDA-KHAN : THE PATTHAN OF THE GURU
    (Source : http://www.panthic.org )

    Painda Khan, was the son of Fateh Khan, an Afghan resident of the village of Alimpur, 7 km northeast of Kartarpur in the present Jalandhar district of the Punjab. His parents died while he was still very young, and he was brought up by his maternal uncle, Isma'ill Khan, of Vadda Mir, near Kartarpur.

    According to Gurbilas Chhevin Patshahi, Isma'il Khan, along with his 16-year old nephew and some other Pathans of his village, once accompanied a Sikh sangat proceeding to Amritsar on the occasion of Divali to see Guru Hargobind. The Guru, pleased with the manly demeanour of Painda Khan, engaged him to be trained as a soldier.

    Painda Khan grew up into a brave, hefty warrior and showed his mettle fighting against the imperial troops at Amritsar (1629). Guru Hargobind ji always treated him with special consideration. While at Kartarpur, he had Painda Khan married to an Afghan girl from Chhota Mir, and asked him to stay there with his bride. During his visits to Kartarpur, the Guru would take him out for the chase, and shower him with praise and gifts. Painda Khan was in Guru Hargobind ji's train during his visit to darauli Bhai in 1631.

    After the death of Mata Damodari there in November that year, he was told to escort the family back to Kartarpur, while the Guru himself set out on a journey across the Malva tract to meet the sangats. As the Guru arrived at Kartarpur after the battle of Mehraj in December 1634, Painda Khan presented himself and, to quote Bhai Santokh Singh, Sri Gur Pratap Suraj Granth, spoke boastfully: "Had I been there I would not have let the Guru go forward and expose himself to danger, nor would have Bhai Jetha died." About this time Painda Khan married his daughter to asman Khan, an Afghan youth of the village of Chhota Mir itself.

    On the occasion of the next Baisakhi, 29 March 1635, Sikhs from far and near came with presents to pay homage to the Guru. Chitra Sain, a rich merchant, presented a beautiful horse, a white hawk, a costly dress and a khande or dual-edged sword. Guru Hargobind gave the hawk to Baba Gurditta, his eldest son, and bestowed the horse, the dress and the sword upon Painda Khan. As the latter went home, elated at having been so honoured by the Guru, his son-in-law, asman Khan, claimed the gifts which Painda Khan reluctantly passed on to him. Asman Khan, donning the dress and sword, went out hunting the following day riding the horse. Baba Gurditta, with his newly acquired white hawk, also happened to be sporting in the same area. The hawk fell into the hands of Asman Khan, who took it home.

    Painda Khan who turned up without wearing the dress gifted to him, denied before the Guru that the gifts had changed hands or that the hawk was in the possession of his son-in-law. Guru Hargobind ji sent a Sikh, Bhai Bidhi Chand, to Chhota Mir, and the gifts along with the hawk were recovered from asman Khan. Annoyed at the exposure of his perjury, Painda Khan openly turned against his patron. With the help of the faujdar of Jalandhar, he attacked the Guru but was defeated in the battle which, according to Bhatt Vahi Multani Sindhi, raged for three days, from 26 to 28 April 1635.

    Painda Khan fell to Guru Hargobind's sword on the final day. The Gurbilas Chhevin Patshahi records that, as Painda lay dying, the Guru told him to remember Allah(God), shading with his shield his face from the scorching sun.
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    amardeep got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Sikhism And Caste   
    The four bujjar kurehits apply for the Khalsa only.
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    amardeep got a reaction from Premi in The Truth About Sikhs And Caste In India (video)   
    as far as i've heard 3HO only marry within 3ho..
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Diary Of An Arab Writer Who Accompanied Guru Nanak   
    Dalsingh:

    the practice of keeping kesh since to have started earlier than Guru Gobind Singh. There is a reference in Guru Granth Sahib in the Bhatt bani saying something about the long-haired Sikhs are true worshippers of Truth.... The bhatts wrote during the time of Guru Ram Dass..
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in 5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?   
    Im just going Sikhkhoj style :) For some weird reason he prefers a rough debate with insults along the way
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in 5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?   
    Haha unlike you who just keep mentioning unnamed scholars and unnamed sources (which probably dont even exist you crappy liar) I actually name the people I take information from so people can read up on the arguments..... But if taking information from someone Means that im up their arse,-  does it mean that your head is up all those unnamed scholars and professors arses as well? Indeed your head has been up in many arses by now then. You are indeed a little mental piece of shit.
    I humbly bow for all the times you've enlightened me - you are indeed a Blessing to this World. May it be that millions more are blessed with your guidance and superior knowledge.
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Sikh History Vs Gurbani   
    Pandit Tara Singh Narotam was a great scholar indeed but I think he was also constrained a bit by the British camp. He was working in an akhara that was ultimately funded by the Patiala Raj which was heavily linked with the angrezi raj. The brits had a vested interest in downplaying and destroying the martial and independant elements of the Khalsa which is the spirit that is imbibed in Dasam Bani. Therefore they had a great interest in distancing the Sikhs from their martial Khalsa heritage as expressed in Dasam bani.
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Randhiri Cult   
    I found the article on raagmala where i can see there are references to suraj parkash also

    http://www.sikhism101.com/node/274
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Randhiri Cult   
    It does'nt reject raagmala. The author just says he does'nt know wheter raagmala is Gurbani or not, which means it was also an issue at the time.
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Randhiri Cult   
    The issue of raagmala predates Bhai Sahib Randir Singh.. The issue can be found in Suraj Parkash Granth and other nirmale scholars also rejected this composition such as pandit tara singh narotam etc... There is a list of scholars who've rejected this composition on www.sikhism101.com
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Purpose Of Dasam Granth   
    If only 50 pages of the Dasam Granth are to be considered the writings of Guru Gobind Singh then why werent these 50 pages included into the Guru Granth Sahib when the Guru dictated the Granth Sahib from memory in 1704? Obvisoly the Guru would not be able to add the 1300 page Dasam Granth into the existing 1400+ page Guru Granth Sahib, but a few extra 50 pages of bani would'n be a problem .Why were these kept seperate?

    And is there a difference between Japji Sahib and Jap Sahib? Are'nt both to  be respected the same way?

     
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Nitnem prior to Sri Guru Gobind singh ji   
    Im working on it veerji im working on it
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Nitnem prior to Sri Guru Gobind singh ji   
    stop being a hindu shaheediya!!!!!!!!
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Nitnem prior to Sri Guru Gobind singh ji   
    lets ban him from sikhawareness!!!!
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Very Interesting Critique Of Sgpc Rehat Maryada By Taksaal   
    I think the Panth maryada has been misunderstood..Its meant as minimum guidelines, not fixed guidelines.. there was controversy over the lenght of banis, so they fixed MINUMUMS that should be read so all jathas, samprdayas etc were satisfied.. meaning if u wish to read more then please do so..

    There was an incident where a person came up to Jarnail Singh Bhinderwalaya and asked him which rehit he should follow.. he said follow that of Akal Thakht... Then the DDT singhs asked him why he did'n tell him to follow the DDT rehit... then Babaji said that this rehit is only for members of this dera, while the one for Akal thakht is for the entire panth...
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in The Gurus Daily Bhagti / Nitnem   
    I think Bhai Gurdass is exagerating to create a better lingvistic feature - to turn it black and white to enhance his message as we say here in the cold north.

    For instance we know that Guru Nanak and Guru Arjan travelled alot where as Bhai Gurdaas says that the earlier Gurus only stayed at one place.

    Equally Guru Nanak was imprisooned by Babur, Guru Angad was threatened with death by Humayan and Guru Arjan was called for account by Akbar.

    Its poetic features to show opposites, - not that they are historically correct but rather to enhance the obvious differences in lifestyles.
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Charitro Pakhyan - Sri Dasam Granth Sahib   
    You can not do it like that.. you already know the kakaars, so now you just try and find some shabads that sounds like they are talking about the kakars.

    if you gave Guru Granth Sahib to a non-sikh who knew nothing of sikhism and asked him to read it and list all the important things he could find he would NEVER mention anything about kesh, kanga keshara kirpaan and kara..
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Vishnu Sahasranamam by Guru Arjun Dev Ji Maharaj   
    The mool mantar is mentioned in Gurbani by Guru Arjan i think
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Historicity of Guru Gobind Singh Ji's hukamname?   
    I dont know if it has been digitized.
    Paapiman: Sriman 108 Sant Baba Santa Clause Singh Maharaj has rejected it, but apart from him the entire panth has acknowledged the book and they gave Ganda Singh five sarope at Akal Takht and Hazoor Sahib. 
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Sarbloh Granth   
    This kind of mixed theology is also seen in the Japji sahib.
    ਗੁਰੁ ਈਸਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਰਖੁ ਬਰਮਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਮਾਈ ॥  
    गुरु ईसरु गुरु गोरखु बरमा गुरु पारबती माई ॥  
    Gur īsar gur gorakẖ barmā gur pārbaṯī mā▫ī.  
    The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi.  
    ਗੁਰੂ ਧਾਰਨ ਕਰਕੇ ਹੀ (ਈਸਰੁ) ਸਿਵਜੀ ਹੂਏ ਹੈਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੀ ਧਾਰਨ ਕਰਕੇ (ਗੋਰਖੁ) ਬਿਸਨ ਜੀ ਹੂਏ ਹੈਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੀ ਧਾਰਨ ਕਰਕੇ (ਬਰਮਾ) ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਜੀ ਹੂਏ ਹੈਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੀ ਧਾਰਨ ਕਰਕੇ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਜੀ (ਮਾ) ਲੱਛਮੀ ਜੀ (ਈ) ਸੁਰਸਤੀ ਜੀ ਹੂਈ ਹੈ ਵਾ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੀ ਸਰਬ ਦੇਵ ਰੂਪ ਹੈਂ ਈਸਰ ਕਾ ਗੁਨੁ ਧਾਰ ਕਰ ਸਿੱਖੋਂ ਕਾ ਅਗ੍ਯਾਨੁ ਨਾਸੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੈ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਕਾ ਗੁਣ ਧਾਰ ਕਰ ਸੁਭ ਗੁਣੋਂ ਕੀ ਪਾਲਣਾ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੈਂ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਕਾ ਗੁਣੁ ਧਾਰ ਕਰ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਆਦਿ ਗੁਨ ਉਤਪੰਨ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੈਂ ਇਸੀ ਭਾਂਤ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਕਾ ਗੁਣ ਧਾਰ ਕਰ ਅਵਗੁਣੋਂ ਕਾ ਨਾਸੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੈਂ ਲੱਛਮੀ ਕਾ ਗੁਣੁ ਧਾਰਕਰ ਦੈਵੀ ਸੰਪਦਾ ਕੇ ਗੁਣੋ ਕਾ ਦਾਤਾ ਹੈਂ ਸੁਰੱਸ੍ਵਤੀ ਕਾ ਗੁਣੁ ਧਾਰ ਕਰ ਬਾਣੀ ਕਾ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੈਂ॥ ਪ੍ਰਸ਼ਨ: ਐਸੇ ਗੁਰੋਂ ਕੀ ਮਹਿਮਾ ਔਰ ਭੀ ਕਹੀਏ॥ ਉੱਤਰ:
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