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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in 5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?   
    The amount of stupidity that comes from you is absolutely amazing. Why do you use an argument against the supposed Aligarh manuscripts when you’re not willing to expand on it?  Do you even know if anyone actually went there or are you just making up stuff as you go along ?
     
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in 5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?   
    Nope you tell me since you brought it up.
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in 5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?   
    Paapiman and Chatanga:

    There is also the possibility that the Guru had told the warriors beforehand not to rise when the call came. Like in school class when sometimes the teacher says to the top students not to raise their hands when a question is asked because the teacher wants to see how many of the "non-top students" know the answers to the subject etc.
    This would explain why the other hundreds/thousands of warriors did not rise.
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in 5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?   
    The first reference to the story of panj pyare and the call for heads is in Kuer Singh's Gurbilas Patshahi 10 from 1751. If I remember correctly it is also mentioned in the Bansavalinama. I can't remember how the storyline goes in the Mahima Prakash nor the Sau Sakhi.
     The sakhi is again repeated in Suraj Prakash Granth of 1843
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in The 5 khands in Sri Japuji Sahib   
    The Nirmala stance is that it deals with 5 levels of spiritual progression. They often juxtapose the 3 spiritual states of Vedant into the 5 Khands (Karam khand, Upashna Khand and Gian Khand). This can be seen in the teeka of Kavi Santokh Singh and it is much more detailed in the fantastic katha of Sant Singh Maskeen. I can't quite remember what Dr. Sahib Singh and the Fareedkot Teeka says about these.
    I think the AKJ interprets it as 5 worlds or realms after death - some kind of paradises.
    Im not sure why they are not mentioned anywhere in the Guru Granth Sahib apart from Japji Sahib.
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    amardeep got a reaction from paapiman in 5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?   
    The first reference to the story of panj pyare and the call for heads is in Kuer Singh's Gurbilas Patshahi 10 from 1751. If I remember correctly it is also mentioned in the Bansavalinama. I can't remember how the storyline goes in the Mahima Prakash nor the Sau Sakhi.
     The sakhi is again repeated in Suraj Prakash Granth of 1843
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    amardeep got a reaction from Inderpal1994 in Tilak ?   
    i've come across sikhs who dont even believe in reincarnation lol
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    amardeep got a reaction from Inderpal1994 in Who Is The Divine Mother?   
    I think most names of God in the Guru Granth Sahib are masculine while in the Dasam Granth they are feminine
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in The Tale of Kharag Singh   
    ਬਾਵਨ ਕਵੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਢਿਗ ਰਹੈ। ਮਨਿਆ ਉਨ ਮਹਿ ਗੁਨੀਆ ਅਹੈ।
    ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖ ਤੋਂ ਕਲਗੀਧਰ ਆਪੈ। ਬੀਰ ਰਸ ਕੀ ਕਥਾ ਅਲਾਪੈ।
    ਕ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਨ ਚਰਿਤਰ ਮਧ ਹੈ ਜਾਨੋ। ਖੜਗ ਸਿੰਘ ਕਾ ਯੁਧ ਪਛਾਨੋ।
    ਜਿਸ ਤੇ ਸੁਨਤ ਕਾਇਰਤਾ ਭਾਗੈ।ਧਰਮ ਜੁਧ ਮਹਿ ਹੋਈ ਅਨੁਰਾਗੇ।
    (ਚੋਪਈ 47, ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਬਿਲਾਸ ਕਵੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਸਿੰਘ)
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in The Tale of Kharag Singh   
    As chatanga mentioned, Muslims are mentioned in it which means it’s not a part of the original version. 
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    amardeep got a reaction from SunnySingh in Bhagats Were Sikhs?   
    The bhagats are not mentioned as Sikhs of Guru Nanak in the 11th vaar of Bhai Gurdaas nor are any of the sakhis in the Vaaran about their lives any way related to Guru Nanak.
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Funeral place of Painde Khan   
    I think I’ve found the sakhi  in the Sri Suraj Prakash. I’ll get back to you 

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    amardeep got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Gobind Gita   
    Here are my notes - what I wrote down while reading it years back.
    "The Gobind Gita switches between translation in verse to narrative stories in prose back and forth – the narratives being from the Padam Purana. This is what the Chaupa Singh rehitnama's authencity is critisiced for - a constant switch between verse and prose.
    When having more time, translate the texts from page 205 onwards(PDF version) or 396 if pagination by the book. regarding the tenth chapter: Teekakaar vaach: Eis dhiaye rahit jo dharay so khalsa hai roop hamaray… Page 225  in the book also has lines about the Khalsa
    And 238: Cool quote- People dont know themselves yet take great pride in their caste. page 250 bottom also talks about the caste system"
     
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    amardeep got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Creation of everything (all worlds, trinity etc.)   
    What is anurag granth?
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    amardeep got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Today - Shaheedi Divas - Satguru Sri Guru Arjan Dev jee Maharaaj   
    Amazing painting
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    amardeep got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Today - Shaheedi Divas - Satguru Sri Guru Arjan Dev jee Maharaaj   
    Amazing painting
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    amardeep got a reaction from Righteousness in Shaheed Singhs   
    Gurfateh
    I came across this online:
     
    Katha Shaheed Singhs

    ਇਕ ਦਿਨ ਕਲਗੀਧਰ ਥਿਰੇ, ਸਿਦਕੀ ਸਿਖ ਤੀਰਾ ।
    One day Kalgidhar [Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji] was sitting with his faithful [Sidhki] Sikhs.
     

    ਮੁਹਕਮ ਸਿੰਘ ਅਰ ਦਯਾ ਸਿੰਘ, ਹਿੰਮਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਧੀਰਾ ।
    [Piara] Mohkam Singh, [Piara] Daya Singh and the content [Piara] Himmat Singh were also present

    panja pyareya chon, bhai daya singh ji, bhai mohkam singh ji te bhai himmat singh ji vi hajuri vich san

    ਇੱਤ੍ਯਾਦਿਕ ਕਰ ਜੋਰਿ ਕੈ, ਅਸ ਗਿਰਾ ਬਖਾਨੀ ।
    At that moment all three of them folded their hands and made the following supplication,
    ohs samme tinna ne apne apne hath jodde te satguraan nu eh vinamr benti keeti,
     
     
    'ਸ੍ਰੀ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਹਮੈ ਬਤਾਈਐ, ਜਿਸ ਤੇ ਅਨੁਜਾਨੀ ॥੪॥
    "Oh Guru Ji, please enlighten us on a topic we have no knowledge of. [4]
    Satguru ji kirpa kar ke saanu ehs vishe te gyaan baksho, jide vare asi anjaan haan,

    ਕਿਨ ਕੋ ਨਾਮ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਹੈ, ਕ੍ਯਾ ਕਿਰਤ ਕਰੰਤੇ ? ।
    The beings known as Shaheeds, What do they do?

    jede paani ne jina nu shaheed keha janda aa, oh ki karde han?
     
     
    ਗਤਿ ਮਿਤ ਇਨ ਕੀ ਕੌਨ ਹੈ, ਕ੍ਯਾ ਸ਼ਕਤਿ ਧਰੰਤੇ ? ।
    What is their limit? What is their code of conduct? What is their power?
    ohna di haddaan, ohna dia rehet behet, te ohna dia shaktiaa ki han?

    ਜਿਸ ਥਲ ਬਾਸਾ, ਹੈ ਕਿਤਿਕ, ਪਦਵੀ ਇਨ ਕੇਤੀ ।
    Where do they stay? What is their elevated position?
    oh kithe rehnde ne te ohna di ki awasta aa?

    ਸਭਿ ਗ੍ਯਾਤਾ ਕੇ ਤੁਮ ਧਨੀ, ਕਹੀਐ ਹਮ ਸੇਤੀ'॥੫॥
    You are the knower of all this knowledge, for this reason we have come to you for answers."[5]
    tusi ehna saaria gala de jaanu ho, so taahi kar ke asi aap ji di sharan aaye haan,

    ਸੁਨਿ ਸਿੱਖਨ ਤੇ ਗੁਰ ਹਸੇ, ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖ ਫੁਰਮਾਯੋ ।
    Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji laughed after hearing this question and said the following,
    eh sawal sun ke pehla ta maharaj ji hass paye, fir shromani mukh chon eh bole,

    'ਗੁਪਤ ਹੁਤੀ ਬੂਝੀ ਤੁਮਹੁ, ਕਹਿਬੋ ਬਨਿ ਆਯੋ ।
    "This topic of which you have asked was to be kept secret but because you have asked I will answer your questions."
    Singho eh sawaal, eh vishaa gupat hi rakhna si assi, par tusi saade pyaare sikh ho, asi tuhanu dassa ge ehde bhet,

    ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਆਪਨੀ, ਸਭਿ ਰਖਹਿਂ ਹਜੂਰੰ ।
    Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji was the protector of the Sangat
    hun kawi keh rehe han,,
    guru gobind singh ji apnia sangata de raakhe, pratpaalak san,

    ਸੇਵਕ ਕੀ ਪਤਿ ਰਾਖਤੇ, ਆਪੇ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੰ ॥੬॥
    The complete Guru is the one who protects the honour of his devotees. [6]
    sampooran guru oh aa jo apne
    shardhaalua da maan mahat nu kaim rakhda,

    ਸੁਨਿ ਸਭਿ ਕਲਿ ਕਾਲ ਇਹੁ, ਬਰਤ੍ਯੋ ਬਡ ਘੋਰੇ ।
    "Listen brotheres the age of Kaljug is very intense.
    satgur ji ne furmaya, sunno mere sikho, kaljug da samaa boht teekshan, bhao gambheer hai,

    ਗੁਰ ਪਾਲੀ ਸਿਖ ਸਭਿਨਿ ਕੋ, ਭਲਕਾਵ ਨ ਭੋਰੇ ।
    The Guru nourishes every Sikh and does not ever forget them.
    guru apne sikh di pooran pratpaalna karda hai, te ohnu kade visaarda nahi,

    ਤਾੜਤਿ ਹੈ ਬਹੁ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਤੇ, ਕਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਬਹੁ ਭੇਖਾ ।
    If a Sikh does something wrong a Guru has many methods on correcting them by adopting numerous forms.

    je koi sikh koi galti ya bhul kare, ta satguraan kol ohna bhula nu sudharan de bhin bhin raah hunde han, tareeke hunde han ohnu bhula da sudhar karan lai..

    ਹੁਕਮ ਸੱਤਿਤਾ ਟਿਕਨਿ ਮਨ, ਸਿੱਖਨ ਗੁਰ ਦੇਖਾ ॥੭॥
    A Sikh should adopt truth and accept the will of God, these are what the Guru keeps an eye on and tests. [7]

    sikh nu sach te parabhu de bhaane nu mannana chahida, ehna gala te hi guru sikh uppar apni nigaah banaai rakhda,

    ਜੋ ਸਾਬਤ ਹੈ ਸਿਦਕ ਮੈਂ, ਅਰ ਰਣ ਮਹਿਂ ਸੂਰਾ ।
    Those who have faith will never show his back in a battlefield
    jede sidki te bharose wale ne, oh kade rann bhoomi ch pith nai wakhaunde,

    ਸੋ ਭਉਜਲ ਤੇ ਤਰਿ ਗਯੋ, ਪਾਯੋ ਪਦ ਰੂਰਾ ।
    That being will swim across the worldly ocean if they are martyred in battle. They are liberated without needing to meditate or undergo austerities.
    ehda de praani, sikh sansaar de bhaosaagar ch paar langh jaande ne, te je oh sach te dharmi judh vich shaheed ho jaan, te oh mukati nu paraapat hunde ne. chaahe ohna ne bhagti keeti hove ya nahi, naam jappeya hove ya nahi, oh bohith to paar langh jaande han..

    ਜਿਨਕੇ ਸਿਦਕ ਨ ਸਾਬਤੀ, ਕਾਤੁਰ ਜੰਜਾਲੀ ।
    Those who are not faithful and are trapped in attachment are lost cowards.
    jedde nirshardhak te be-bharose wale prani ne, jo sansaari moh ch urjhe rehnde ne, oh anth kaayar ho marde han.

    ਭਟਕਤਿ ਜਨਮ ਰੁ ਮਰਨ ਮਹਿਂ, ਸੁਖ ਤੇ ਨਿਤ ਖਾਲੀ ॥੮॥
    They remain trapped in a cycle of transmigration and are forever without bliss. [8]

    oh sadeev kaal lai hi kaal de geddeya ch fanse rehne ne te mud mud awagaman ch rehne ne, na hi ohna nu anand di paraapati hundi aa, dukhi rehnde ne..

    ਗੁਰੂ ਖਰੇ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਸਹਿਤ, ਚਿਰਕਾਲ ਉਡੀਕੈਂ ।
    I stand in the next world with the sangat waiting for the arrival of a Shaheed.
    maharaaj ji sharomani mukh cho eh bachan uchaarde han,
    ki mai ohna shaheed singha di udeek ehs sansaar te aggle padaa, agle dunia ch apni hor sangata naal karda haan,

    ਖੋੜਸ ਤੱਤਨਿ ਦੇਹ ਧਰਿ, ਥਿਰ ਰਹੈਂ ਸੁ ਨੀਕੇ ।
    The subtle body made of the sixteen facets (seventeen in Vedant) is entrapped in the cycle of transmigration

    ohna da sookham shareer 16 pehluaan da baneya honda, (vedda ch 17) eh sharir awagama ch rehnda hai,

    ਹਿਤ ਸਹਾਇਤਾ ਹਮ ਤਹਾਂ, ਤਬਿ ਬਨਹਿਂ ਸਹਾਈ ।
    I will be standing to assist them in the next world to look after those who have gone off the path to be forgiven.
    mai ohna lai agle sansar ch khada udikda ha, jede bhawen ehs maarag to vichlit hoe par muafi jog han,

    ਦਸ ਸਹੰਸ੍ਰ ਸੰਮਤ ਲਗੌ, ਦੇਖੌਂ ਦ੍ਰਿਗ ਲਾਈ ॥੯॥
    For 10000 years I will continue to watch over them. [9]
    mai 10000 sala tak ohna te nigaah rakhdan

    ਹਮਰੀ ਦਿਸ਼ਿ ਕੋ ਸਿੱਖ ਇਹੁ, ਚਲਿ ਆਵਹਿ ਕੈਸੇ ।
    I will hope that through some method a Sikh will find a passage to me.
    mai umeed karda ki sikh mera,, mere wal nu mukh kar lave, gurmukh ho jawe

    ਜੋ ਆਵਹਿ ਰਲ ਜਾਤਿ ਹੈ, ਸਿੱਖਨਿ ਮਹਿਂ ਤੈਸੇ ।
    Those who state their misdeeds and come back into the order should still be considered your brother

    jede apni bhula nu kabul len te hukum ch, sharni aa jaan ohna nu apne bhai jaan'na karo,

    ਸਿੱਖ ਛਪੰਜਾ ਕ੍ਰੋੜ ਹੈਂ, ਸੌਂਪੇ ਗੁਰ ਹਾਥਾ ।
    I have been blessed with an order of 560,000,000 Shaheeds by God
    maharaj ne keha, mainu 56 cror shaheeda da kotta baksheya akaal purakh ne..

    ਹੁਕਮ ਅਹੈ ਕਰਤਾਰ ਕੋ, ਸਭਿ ਕਰਹੁ ਸਨਾਥਾ ॥੧੦॥
    They are all under my subjecation and liberated. [10]
    oh saare mere hi adheen han. te mai hi ohna nu mukti dinda,

    ਸ਼ੁੱਧ ਧਰਮ ਕਰਿ ਕੈ ਇਨਹੁਂ, ਕਲਿ ਕਾਲ ਮਝਾਰਾ ।
    By making them pure I have sent them to Sachkhand

    ohna nu khalis te shudh karan to uprant mai ohna nu sachkhan bhej ta hai.

    ਕਰੋ ਉਧਾਰਨ ਜਗਤ ਤੇ, ਲਹਿਂ ਸਿੰਧ ਕਿਨਾਰਾ ।
    They cross over the worldly ocean to safety after helping the world
    oh ehs jag di madad, loka da udhar karan to baad sansaari saagar nu surkhian paar kar lende ne.

    ਉਤ ਤੇ ਲੋਕ ਕੁਬੇਰ ਲਗਿ, ਇਤ ਭੂ ਪਰ ਸਾਰੇ ।
    From the realm of Kuber to this planet.
    kuber di viraasat ton lai ke ehs greh tak,

    ਗੁਰੂ ਉਡੀਕਹਿਂਗੇ ਖਰੇ, ਸਿਖ ੳਰ ਨਿਹਾਰੇ ॥੧੧॥
    I will stand and await for the arrival of my Sikh who has returned to the order. [11]

    mai apne sikh di khade pair udeek karda han, jo hukam te bhaane ch reh ke mud aunda.

    ਧਨਦ ਲੋਕ ਭਵ ਲੋਕ ਲਗਿ, ਬਿਚਰਹਿਂ ਗਨ ਸਾਰੇ ।
    The Shaheeds live between this world and the realm of Kuber
    shaheed, kuber de raaj de asthaan te ehr sansaar de madh di dunia ch rehnde ne

    ਜਿਨ ਕੋ ਨਾਮ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਹੈ, ਸਭਿ ਪਰ ਬਲ ਧਾਰੇਂ ।
    Those who are known as Shaheeds have a vast amount of power
    jede shaheed kar ke jaane jaande aa, ohna kol aseem shaktia hundia,

    ਜਸ ਜਸ ਹੁਇ ਇਨ ਭਾਵਨਾ, ਤਸ ਤਸ ਸਿਧ ਹੋਵੈ ।
    Whatever is their desire will become manifest
    jo vi ohna di ichha hundi hai, saaf taur te vyakt ho jandi hai,

    ਭੂਤ ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਅਸੁਰਾਨ ਪਰ, ਸਭਿ ਕੋ ਇਹ ਜੋਵੈਂ ॥੧੨॥
    The ghost, animals, demons jinns are all under the Shaheeds subjecation. [12]
    bhoot pret, jaanwar, daint te jinn shaheeda de adheen han

    ਪਸੁ, ਪੰਖੀ, ਨਗ, ਨਾਗ, ਨਰੁ, ਜਛੁ, ਗੰਧ੍ਰਬ ਬ੍ਰਿੰਦਾ ।
    The animals, birds, mountains, snakes, human beings and Gandharvs
    pashu panchhi, pahaad, sapp, praan dhaari insaan sab shaheeda de adheen han,

    ਰਾਖਸ਼ਿ ਆਦਿਕ ਅਪਸਰਾ, ਧਰਿ ਸ਼ਕਤਿ ਬਿਲੰਦਾ ।
    The demons and nymphs are under will of the shaheeds
    daint te apsraawan vi shaheeda di ichhashakti de adheen han.

    ਹੁਕਮ ਸ਼ਹੀਦਨਿ ਕੋ ਚਲਹਿ, ਇਨ ਸਭਿ ਪਰ ਜਾਨੋ ।
    Understand that the will of the Shaheeds is on all of these
    eh gal samajh lao, ehna saareya uppar shaheeda di ichhashakti raaj kardi hai..

    ਅਪਰਨ ਕੀ ਗਿਨਤੀ ਕਹਾਂ, ਜਮਦੂਤ ਮਹਾਨੋ ॥੧੩॥
    What other beings should i talk about as the angels of death are also under the command of Shaheeds. [13]

    hun kalgidhar ji furmaunde han, ki mai hor kise di ji gal kara, etho tak mot de doot vi shaheeda de hi adheen han..

    ਬੂਝਿ ਸ਼ਹੀਦਨਿ ਕੋ ਫਿਰਹਿਂ, ਉਰ ਮਹਿਂ ਡਰ ਧਾਰੇ ।
    These beings will fear the Shaheeds in their heart and will always confer with them prior to making decisions

    eh sab apneya mannaa ch shaheeda da bhaiy ohna da darr dhaarde ne, te kuj vi faisla lain to pehla shaheeda to puchde vichaarde ne.

    ਲੋਕ ਕਹੈਂ ਬੈਤਾਨ ਇਨ੍ਹ, ਲਖਿ ਭੇਦ ਉਦਾਰੇ ।
    Those people who do not know them will be in doubt confusing them for vampires / evil spirits [Betal]

    jedde log shaheeda vare jaankari nai rakhde, oh ehs uljhan ch fasse rehne ne k ya te eh betaal bhao maadia rooha ne ya khoon peen vaale praani ne.

    ਸ਼ਾਸਤ੍ਰਾਨਿ ਕੋ ਪਠੈਂ ਜੋ, ਸੋ ਇਨ ਕੇ ਨਾਮੂ ।
    Within the Shaastars this is the name given for these beings.

    shaashtaran vich vi shaheeda nu ehi naam ditte gaye ne.

    ਬਿਦ੍ਯਾਧਰ ਭਾਖਤਿ ਸਕਲ, ਬਿਲਸਤਿ ਅਭਿਰਾਮੂ ॥੧੪॥
    The Vidyadhar deities who live in the ether are under the command of the Shaheeds. [14]

    vidyaa da dhaarni vidyadhar devte, jede rang heen draww bhao colorless liquid ch rehnde han, oh vi shaheeda de aadesh ch rehnda ne..

    ਲਖਹੁ ਅਸ਼ੁਭ ਭੀ ਇਨਹੁਂ ਮੈਂ, ਸ਼ੁਭ ਅਹੈਂ ਘਨੇਰੇ ।
    The non auspicious and auspicious are both under the subjecation of the Shaheeds

    samooh shubh te ashubh, sab shaheeda de adheen aa.

    ਹੈ ਸੁਭਾਵ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਬਿਧਿਨਿ ਗੁਨ, ਸਤ ਰਜ ਤਮ ਕੇਰੇ ।
    Some of the Shaheeds are made of considerable Sato virtue, Tamo virtue and Rajo virtue [guna].

    kuj shaheed rajo gun , juj tapo gun te kuj sato gun de banne hunde han.

    ਸੰਗਤ ਤੇ ਪੁਜਵਾਵਈਂ, ਜੋ ਹੈ ਇਨ ਕੇਰੀ ।
    The congregation worship the shaheeds

    jinnia vi sabhaa, samooh ne, sab shaheeda nu poojde ne.

    ਪੂਰੀ ਕਰਤਿ ਸੁ ਕਾਮਨਾ, ਜਸੁ ਜਨ ਹੈ ਕੇਰੀ ॥੧੫॥
    Whatever a person desires is completed by the Shaheed Singhs. [15]

    manukh kuj vi praapt karan di ichha karan, ohna nu poora shaheeda ne hi karna hai.

    ਦੁਖ ਸੁਖ ਕੇ ਦਾਤਾ ਅਹੈਂ, ਦੇਤੇ ਸਭਿ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ।
    They are the granters of bliss and sorrow and grant it to all

    sukha te dukhaan, dono nu den vaale shaheed han,

    ਸਰਬ ਕਲਾ ਸਮਰੱਥ ਇਹੁ, ਧਰਿ ਸ਼ਕਤਿ ਮਹਾਨੀ ।
    They have every type of power and are themselves very powerful

    har tara di taakat de oh dhani ne, te oh aap hi att shaktishaali ne..

    ਦੇ ਕਰਿ ਇਨ ਕੋ ਭਰਤਖੰਡ, ਸੁਰ ਸੁਰਗ ਸਿਧਾਰੇ ।
    The deities handed over the land of India (Bharat Khand) to the Shaheed Singhs and left for heaven

    devteya ne bhaarat khand da samuh beerhaa shaheeda nu soump ke, aap surgaan nu chalaana kar leya,

    ਬੈਠੇ ਜਾਇ ਨਿਚਿੰਤ ਹੁਇ, ਸਾਂਭੀ ਸਭਿ ਕਾਰੇ ॥੧੬॥
    The deities are sat without worry as the Shaheeds are controlling all of their work. [ 16]

    Hun oh aap achint ho ke bethe ne kyo ki jaande ne ki shaheed sab kuj niyantarit kar rahe ne,

    ਪਹੁਂਚਹਿ ਜੋ ਦੇਵਨ ਸਭਿਨਿ, ਅਰਪਤਿ ਜੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ।
    Whichever being comes to the earth, even if they are taken away by the angels of death understand that they are doing this in accordance to the will of the Shaheed Singhs

    jo vi sansaar ch aunda te jeda koi kaal de doota walo khaaya jaanda hai, samajh lao ki oh vi shaheed singha di ichhaa anusaar ho reha hai,

    ਹਾਥ ਸ਼ਹੀਦਨਿ ਹੋਇ ਕੈ, ਜੈ ਹੈ ਸਭਿ ਥਾਨੀ ।
    Everything is in the hands of the Shaheeds and they are praised everywhere

    sab kuj shaheeda de hath hai te ohna di har thaa tareef, parshansa keeti jaandi hai,

    ਪਰਮੇਸ਼ੁਰ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖ, ਇਸੁ ਕਾਰ ਲਗਾਏ ।
    It is God the creator of all who has given them this duty

    oh ik akaal hi hai ehna sabda rachaita, jenne shaheeda nu ehna uddeshaan, sewa naal nivaajeya hai,
     

    ਹੁਇ ਸੁਚੇਤ ਨਿਤ ਕਰਤਿ ਹੈਂ, ਕਬਿ ਨਹਿਂ ਬਿਸਰਾਏ ॥੧੭॥
    They never fail their duty and are forever ready. [17]

    oh kadde apne kise kammo asafal nai hunde,

    ਹੈਂ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਸਭਿ ਰੀਤਿ ਕੇ, ਲਘੁ ਬ੍ਰਿੰਦ ਬਿਸਾਲਾ ।
    The Shaheeds come in different types some are big and some are small

    shaheed bhinn taraa de hunde han, kuj chhotte te kuj ohto wadde,

    ਭੋਜਨ ਅਨਿਕ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਰ ਕੇ, ਅਚਵਹਿਂ ਸਭਿ ਕਾਲਾ ।
    They consume infinate types of food

    oh anant / aseemit kisam de bhoj shakde han,

    ਸੂਖਮ ਬਸਤ੍ਰਨਿ ਬਰਨ ਬਹੁ, ਨਿਜ ਤਨ ਪਰ ਧਾਰੇ ।
    They wear different coloured subtle clothing on their bodies

    oh addo add kisam de att sookham bastar apne shareer te dhaaran karde aa

    ਅਸਵਾਰੀ ਸਭਿ ਰੀਤਿ ਕੀ, ਆਰੋਹਿ ਬਿਹਾਰੇ ॥੧੮॥
    They can travel on any vessel/vehicle and are constanly found on a vehicle [such as a chariot or on the back of an animal]

    oh kisse vi jal waahan ya hor hor sawaari te yaatra kar sakde aa, oh bohte taur te kise ratth ya kise pashu di pith te sawaar dekhe jaande ne,

    ਅਸਨ ਬਸਨ ਬਾਹਨ ਭਲੇ, ਜੇਤਿਕ ਇਹੁ ਲੈ ਹੈਂ ।
    To eat and to wear they can have anything as no one can prevent them

    kuj khaane ya pehenane nu oh kuj vi dhaaran kar sakde aa, koi vi ohna nu rok nai sakda,

    ਸਭੈ ਮੁਹਾਬ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਗਨ, ਜਿਮ ਕਿਮ ਕੋ ਦੈ ਹੈਂ ।
    They are allowed to ride on any vessel and are not prevented to enter any realm

    shaheed kise vi jalyaan rath te safar kar sakan nu ajaad ne te koi vi ohna nu kise desh viraasat, khetar ch daakhal hon to nai rok sakda,

    ਸਭਿ ਦੀਪਕ ਸਭਿ ਖੰਡ ਕੋ, ਸਭਿ ਸੈਲਨ ਸੈਲਾ ।
    The Shaheeds can go into land or sea no one can prevent them

    oh jal te thal kitte vi vichar sakde aa, koi nai rok sakda ohna nu..

    ਸਾਗਰ ਸਲਿਤਾ ਪਰ ਫਿਰਹਿਂ, ਭੂਲਹਿਂ ਨਹਿਂ ਭੈਲਾ ॥੧੯॥
    They can walk on water, air and the earth, they can go anywhere. [19]

    oh jal, thal te paun kitte vi chal fir sakde aa, kithe vi jaa sakan nu ajaad ne,

    ਅਵਲੋਕਹਿਂ ਸਭਿ ਥਲ ਬਿਚਰਿ, ਮਾਯਾ ਜੁ ਤਮਾਸ਼ਾ ।
    They see the game of Maya being played out everywhere

    oh chohaa paase Maaya de pasaare nu, ohdi khed nu vekh sakde aa,

    ਜਥਾ ਬਿਪਸ਼ਚਿਤ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਭਯੋ, ਕੀਨੀ ਤਿਨ ਆਸਾ ।
    In the way Raja Bipishchit kept the following support,

    jidda ki raja Bipishchit ne heth darj aasara rakheyaa,

    ਮਾਯਾ ਕੋ ਦੇਖਨਿ ਗਯੋ, ਚਹੁਂ ਕੁੰਟ ਮਝਾਰਾ ।
    He went to see Maya in the four directions of the world

    ohne sansaar di chaare dishaawa wal nu payaana keeta, te maaya de pasaare nu vekhna chaaheya,

    ਦੇਖਤਿ ਦੇਖਤਿ ਨਹਿਂ ਮੁਰ੍ਯੋ, ਨਹਿਂ ਅੰਤ ਨਿਹਾਰਾ ॥੨੦॥
    He kept on seeing Maya and saw no end, in this way he never returned or saw his demise. [20]

    ohnu har paasse hi maaya da aseem pargataawa disda reha, jida koi ant naa si, ehs taraa oh pichhaan nu nahi mudeya, te naa hi ohnu apne ant da gyan hoya,
     

    ਤਿਮ ਹੀ ਸਕਲ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਇਹੁ, ਜਗ ਪਿਖਹਿਂ ਤਮਾਸ਼ਾ ।
    They watch the game being played in creation"

    shaheed singh maya di khed nu akaal di ehs rachana ch har thaan lipat/rammi hoi vekhde renne ne.

    ਤਨ ਜੌਨੀ ਅਪਰ ਨ ਧਰਹਿਂ, ਜਿਮੁ ਜੀਵ ਸੁ ਆਸਾ ।
    The Khalsa asked,"Do they undergo transmigration?"

    fir shiromani satguraan to khalse ne puchna keeta, ki oh awaagaman ch aunde han?

    ਭਰਮਤਿ ਨਹਿਂ ਮਰਿਬੇ ਜਨਮ, ਸਿਰ ਪਰ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰਾ ।
    Guru Gobind Singh Ji replied,"They do not undergo transmigration and the complete Guru remains above their heads.

    satguru ji bole, nahi, oh awagaman to mukat han, kyoki samrath te sampooran guru da hath atte kira sadda ohna uppar hundi hai.

    ਪਾਲੀ ਸਭਿ ਸੰਭਾਲਿ ਲੇ, ਕਹਿ ਕੈ ਬਚ ਰੂਰਾ ॥੨੧॥
    The Guru raises the Shaheed and looks after them. [21]

    guru hi shaheed singha di pratpaalna karda hai, te ohna di di dekh bhaal karda hai.

    ਸਬਲ ਸਮੂਹ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਕੀ, ਗਤਿ ਮਿਤਿ ਲਖਿ ਐਸੇ ।
    Understand this to be the code of conduct and way of life for a Shaheed

    Hey Sikho! Ehnu shaheeda di rehet behet jaan'na karo.

    ਤੁਮ ਮੇਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਿਯ ਸਿੱਖ ਹੋ, ਬੂਝੀ, ਕਹਿ ਤੈਸੇ ।
    [Piara] Daya Singh you are my beloved Sikh so due to this I have told you what i know about them

    Daya Singh ji tusi saade preey ho, jede kaaran asi aapnu ehe jaankaari ditti hai,

    ਅਹੈਂ ਸਾਥ ਜੇ ਸ਼ਕਤਿ ਧਰਿ, ਤਿਨ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਜੋਈ ।
    The nine Naths congregate to see the Shaheeds

    jedde 9 naath han, oh shaheeda de darshanaa lai ekattar hunde han.
    ਸਿੱਧ ਅਹੈਂ ਸਮੁਦਾਇ ਸੋ, ਸਿੱਧੀ ਧਰ ਸੋਈ ॥੨੨॥
    The eighty four Sidhs are also under the will and command of the Shaheeds. [22]

    84 sidh vi shaheeda de adheen han, ohna de hukam vich han,

    ਹੈਂ ਦੀਨ ਵਾਲੀ ਜਿਸੈ, ਬਹੁ ਦੀਨ ਕਮਾਵੈ ।
    The nation of prophet Mohammed [The Muslim people] are also under the subjection of the Shaheeds

    paigambar mohammad saheb te ohna de muslin dharmi log vi shaheeda de wass han.
    ਲਖਹੁ ਮੁਹੰਮਦ ਕੀ ਅਹੈ, ਤਿਹ ਨਿਕਟ ਰਹਾਵੈ ।
    The hundreds and thousands of muslims are under the subjecation of the Shaheeds and Mohammed stays close to them

    sankadde hajaaraan musalmaan shaheeda de hukam vi han., te mohammad saheb ohna de sameep ho vassde ne,
     

    ਨਾਮ ਜਨਾਇਤ ਤਾਂਹਿ ਕੌ, ਜਗ ਬਿਖੈ ਕਹਾਵੈ ।
    In the world the Muslim nation is well known and they remain under the command of the Shaheeds

    ehs sansaar vich islaam parchallat panth hai, oh vi shaheeda de hajur hath banni khadda hai..

    ਕ੍ਯਾ ਕਹੀਯਹਿ ਇਸ ਬਾਤ ਕੋ, ਕ੍ਯਾ ਕਿਸਹਿ ਸੁਨਾਵੈਂ ॥੨੩॥
    What should we say and who should we tell about the Shaheed Singhs. [23]

    asi ehna vaare ki kahiye te kenu kaheeye? Agaadh katha hai!

    ਨਿਗੁਰੇ ਬੇਮੁਖ ਹੋਤਿ ਜੇ, ਕਰਤੇ ਮਨ ਭਾਯਾ ।
    The bad, apostates and those who live in accordance to their mind

    maade bande jo apni matt anusaar rehnde han,

    ਤਨ ਤ੍ਯਾਗਤਿ ਹੁਇਂ ਭੂਤਨੇ, ਤਨ ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਕੁ ਪਾਯਾ ।
    When they die they will become ghosts

    jaddo oh marde aa, pret ban jaande han,

    ਤਨ ਤ੍ਯਾਗਤਿ ਹੁਇਂ ਭੂਤਨੇ, ਤਨ ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਕੁ ਪਾਯਾ ।
    When they die they will become ghosts and then be given a ghostly body

    marno baad ohna nu pisaachaan da shareer parapat hunda hai,

    ਸੰਕਟ ਬਿਖੈ ਬਿਤਾਵਤੇ, ਨਿਜ ਬੈਸ ਮਹਾਂਨੀ ।
    Then they will endure a life of hardship

    fir oho kathnaaiya bhari jindagi basar karde aa,

    ਗੁਰ ਬਿਨ ਕਿਮ ਸੁਖ ਕੌ ਲਹੈਂ, ਅੰਧੇ ਅੱਗ੍ਯਾਨੀ'॥੨੪॥
    Without the Guru how can an ignorant person gain peace and bliss?"[24]

    guru baahjho ehe agyaani, kidda mukti te anand nu parapat ho sakde han?

    ਸੁਨਿ ਸਿੱਖਨਿ ਗੁਰ ਕੋ ਬਚਨ, ਮਨ ਬਿਖੈ ਬਸਾਯੋ ।
    All of the Sikhs listened to the words of the Guru and adopted the teachings of the Guru

    sarbbatt samooh sikh sangat ne satguraan de ehna saare amrit mayi bachana nu sarwan keeta, te apne amal vich lyaanda.

    'ਧੰਨ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਪੂਰਨ ਕਲਾ, ਤੁਮ ਸਕਲ ਬਤਾਯੋ ।
    [Piara] Daya Singh Ji said,"Oh God, master, you are truely complete and have told us everything

    daya singh ji ne kehna keeta, ki he Parmeshar Naanak Saroop Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj! Aap ji sach vich sampooran te samrath guru ho!! Saanu saare sawaala de jawaab ditte ne!
    ਪਰੇ ਸ਼ਰਨ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਮਲਿਨ, ਲਿਹੁ ਆਪ ਸੁਧਾਰੀ ।
    Oh King we are full of dirt and have come into your shelter

    ji mahaaraaj: guru garib nivaaj, asi puri tara maile haa, jo aapdi sharan aaye haan,

    ਕ੍ਯਾ ਜਾਨਹਿਂ ਨਰ ਮੰਦ ਮਤਿ, ਗਤਿ ਅਗਮ ਅਪਾਰੀ ॥੨੫॥
    beings like us with bad mind, what are we to understand or know? Your knowledge is beyond comprehension."[25]
     
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    amardeep got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Sri Gur Sobha: authenticity & dating   
    Chatanga and Dalsingh:

    I wondered about incidents of looting taking place amongst the 18th century Khalsa as well (sources mention this happening from the time of the early Khalsa all the way up to the late misl period). After having struggled with this for a long time (on a personal level - as Dalsingh says because sometimes we have a romantic view of the Khalsa so stuff like this do get to us) I came across an interesting man who told me that the looting DID indeed take place as mentioned in the writings. BUT it was not targeted against civilians in the villages. The looting was against the "tax collectors" and local authorities in the villages -  these taxes would under normal circumstances been transfered to either the Rajput or Mughal overlords . So when the Sikhs attacked the villages they were NOT attacking villagers but rather the local political structure of the areas, - vassalage, rulership etc.
    By the early and later Khalsa looting the tax collectors, the Khalsa was challenging the political structure of the time -  it goes hand in hand with other Khalsa injunctionos of the time of either being rebels or rulers, not to acknowledge external judicial courts, not to obey external rulers or pay taxes etc.
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    amardeep got a reaction from Premi in Sri Gur Panth Parkash, controversy?   
    Exactly.
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    amardeep got a reaction from MrSingh1699 in The Difference On Nirmale And Taksalis?   
    So DDT does'nt go all the way back to Maharaj as they claim in their various steaks and videos etc?
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    amardeep got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Post Your Favorite Bairaag Kirtan.   
    Listen to the beginning wow
     
     
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    amardeep got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Post Your Favorite Bairaag Kirtan.   
    In modern times the Qi Rattan are quite good at creating that bairag feeling of kirtan. Here is one example (go to minute 4.50):
     
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Abraham   
    instead of saying its all hindu, or all islamic, one should say "its all divine"
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Breaking: Meet Jagmeet Singh: Sikh lawyer, martial artist and new NDP leader   
    Meet Jagmeet Singh: Sikh lawyer, martial artist and new NDP leader
    Singh says his fashion sense helps disarm stereotypes about Sikhs with turbans and long beards
    By Peter Zimonjic, CBC News Posted: Oct 01, 2017 3:34 PM ET Last Updated: Oct 01, 2017 3:58 PM ET
        Jagmeet Singh, the first turban-wearing Sikh to sit in Ontario's legislature, will now lead a federal political party with his victory in the NDP leadership race on Sunday.
    Singh, 38, won on the first ballot Sunday, taking 53 per cent of the vote to top MPs Charlie Angus, Niki Ashton and Guy Caron.
    Singh has represented the riding of Bramalea-Gore-Malton at Queen's Park since 2011. The unmarried MPP served as the Ontario NDP party's critic for justice and consumer services before party leader Andrea Horwath named him her deputy in 2015.
    Jagmeet Singh wins leadership of federal NDP on first ballot 3 lessons from races past as NDP prepares to name its new leader A criminal defence lawyer who speaks fluent French and Punjabi, Singh was born in Scarborough, Ont., in 1979.
    Singh was raised in Newfoundland and Labrador while his father, who trained as a psychiatrist in India, attended medical school there and worked as a security guard before he could practise in Canada.  
    His family moved to Windsor, Ont., when he was seven years old.
    Learning to fight 
     
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jagmeet-singh-profile-biography-win-1.4315780
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    amardeep got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Raagmalla is not bani   
    I find it sad that Pyara Singh Padam did'n believe in raagmala.
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