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Here is Giani Harbans Singh's Dasam Granth Darpan http://rapidshare.com/files/339105405/Dasam_Granth_Darpan.zip.html

Hikaayataan are being recited there - not Zafarnamah. Gurfateh

Thank you jtSingh Ji! Now I must go reflect. Gurfateh!

Why are you even thinking about the husband? The question is about whether the lady is lying or not. You can't conclude anything about the husband. For all we know, he can be a mute. Given the lady's one statement, we know she's a liar (Refer to previous post). About the husband we know nothing, and nor does the question ask us about him. Am I still not seeing something? Please enlighten me as I really have nothing better to do. :cry:

Hmm, I don't think it's a paradox, but maybe I'm just too thick to see it. There's only 4 cases as Amardeep Singh Ji said: true/true, true/false, false/true, false/false. Let's assume for the moment the wife is telling the truth and the husband said to her, 'I'm a liar'. This obviously doesn't work. Why? 1) If the husband's a liar and says 'I'm a liar', it means he's telling the truth. 2) If the husband's a truth teller and says 'I'm a liar', it means he's lying. So, the wife can't be telling the truth. Just in case, let's consider that the wife's a liar. Then, 1) This may never have happened (i.e. husband said nothing and wife made up the story that the husband said 'I'm a liar' - this is entirely possible) 2) Husband said something different and wife twisted it - again possible. So, the only possible cases that work are when she's lying. She can't be a truth teller! P.S. The husband would be an idiot to tell his wife 'I'm a liar' anyways. Gurfateh!

So....supposedly, the husband told the wife that he's a liar. First, take this assumption to be true, i.e. the wife's a truth teller and this really happened. Then, there are two cases that may be true: (1) The wife's a truth teller and the husband's a truth teller So, the truthful husband tells wifey he's a liar. This would make him a liar, which violates our original assumption (husband's a truth teller). (2) The wife's a truth teller and the husband's a liar. The husband (a liar) tells his wife he's a liar. This would mean that he speaks the truth, which again violates the assumption in this case (he's a liar) Since none of these scenarios work, she can't be telling the truth --> She must be lying! (Question doesn't ask if the husband's a liar/truth teller....so forget about him!) Disclaimer: Brain may be in hibernation and this is all nonsense. :wink:

N30 Singh Aside from Sri Japji Sahib, are not all nitnem banees written in specified raags? Gur Fateh

I think the quote Soulja is referring to is 'sambat saahaa likhya mil kar paavhu tayl' (trans. The day of my wedding is pre-ordained. Come, gather together and pour oil over the threshold)....I think it's in reference to the day of death (?) The proof that god knows your future is in Mool Mantr though....Waheguru is timeless, meaning he exists outside past, present, and future. Whether something happens in the future or in the past, it's all the same to Him....So even if you don't know what ur gonna be doing, He does Fateh