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  1. Do you know what, I cant think of anything better than Bijla Singh actually revealing himself and having a discussion with muslims rather than just posting rubbish all over the internet. Ive also still yet to see any of my "blatant lies" refuted. Im willing to debate here or on my own forum, at least on my own forum the threads arent locked for no reason, where people on the forum here ran out of responses and arbitrarily locked the discussion!
  2. Interesting how people here now want to stifle debate, is it because they have no more answers left? With regards "You only want to convert people", what about Bijla Singh, who blatantly attacks islam all over the internet ,e.g :- "On the other hand, Islam does not teach equality. Islam teaches hatred, inequality and killing of those who do not believe in Islam and the Prophet Mohammad. Islam teaches that only Muslims, who believe in Mohammad being the last prophet, are superior beings to others. " "Non-muslims cannot even go to a mosque " "the God of the Muslims lives in the west"
  3. Hi Vijaydeep, long time! Please do continue the debate, I have still got to address your points as well, which I will do when I get time. Regards, Umar
  4. Hi All, After a short absence, the sikhs2islam website is back up. Check it on :- www.Sikhs2Islam.com Also, very disappointed to see my thread locked, I felt there was a lot of progress being made and i was not given the right of reply to SikhAnswers. Never mind, I will post it all on my website for people to read. regards, Umar, Sikhs2Islam.Com
  5. ISDhillon, did you not see what I wrote? I am going to respond, Im far from defeated, I just dont understand why there seems to be no progression. I will respond over the weekend, I have a job and dont have time to write 6,000 word articles every night, thats all. You know, its interesting that Ego And Pride were condemned by Guru Nanak, yet ISDhillon, Sikh Answers and Beetlejuice seem to have these in abundance!
  6. Sikh answers, Don't worry I will reply to your post, but I am failing to see the point. You are not listening to anything I am saying, going round and round in circles, and not adding anything to the debate! Your logic frightens me sometimes, as well as your criteria for proof. Its interesting as well that you take your sources from non-islamic sources. I ask you if I have ever presented "arguments" from anti-sikh websites? I have always gone as close as possible to the original source, with an open mind, to make sure I am quoting things correctly and have the correct, unbiased opinion.
  7. Answering Sikhs – Part Three An interesting discourse (“10 questions for Sikhsâ€) was responded to by the author of“answering muslims – part twoâ€, and It is also a point that the author seeks to digress the discussion into an attack on Islam, which is highly questionable as to the motives, seeing as this would upset the train of formal discussion. However, Islam, as always, has the answers, and all points raised will be responded to. I would argue that, contrary to accusations of being ignorant of sikh principles, I have understood them loud and clear, hence the worried context
  8. Sikh Answers, You can also see my reply to your responses, and you may also note that the bijla Singh article was written FIRST, in response to Searchsikhism and Bijla Singh. It is NOT the same article, as even a cursory glance will reveal. Im still waiting for your responses by the way.
  9. Point One ; Is Everyone Equal? Singhs’ first point is to contend that Sikhism is non-discriminatory, and that everyone should love each other as human beings, with no-one having a variable status, no-one being “high or lowâ€. His statement is as follows :- “In Sikhism everyone is equal. All people of different colour, religion, caste, creed, race and sex are equal in the eyes of God. No one is high or low. All are children of God created by God and God loves them all.†However, the Guru’s own teachings portray a different version of events. :- A. Concept of Khalsa Kha
  10. togood, you can see it pasted in another thread on the board, "response to bijla singh" which I will put up now
  11. Ok Mr Beetlejuice, Seeing as you’re determined to force the Shia / Sunni issue, even though it has no bearing on previous discussions within this thread, here you go. I have no idea why you want to discuss this, its completely pointless from the view of dialogue between Sikhs and muslims, but that’s fine, if this means that this post will end your incoherent rants, then so be it. I wonder if you are going to allow me to discuss your post, or will you use your tactic again of “if you’ve got a problem, take it up with them� 1. Shia Claims of Abu Bakr “stealing†inheritance
  12. toGood, You might want to read my response to Bijla Singh on that website. I have no problem advising people of other websites, as long as they're going to debate about them.
  13. toGood, You might want to read my response to Bijla Singh on that website. I have no problem advising people of other websites, as long as they're going to debate about them.
  14. To DSG, Hi there. My purpose for the ten questions ARE statements, and they are designed to encourage debate and dialogue with sikhs. I represent an organisation called Sikhs2Islam, of which we have members who are former sikhs who have become muslim. The purpose of these questions is twofold - A) To provide an antithesis to the propaganda against islam disseminated throughout the internet by Sikhs ( e.g SearchSikhism.Com, Bijla Singh, etc , etc ), and To raise serious questions about Sikhism in order to guide people the correct path, Islam. Therefore, thats my purpose. As to why d
  15. Dear Beetlejuice, Your inability to discuss and debate astounds me. Firstly, you paste Shia sources and expect everyone to accept them as truth, and yet when i paste other sources, you reject them., without even looking to the arguments. Secondly, you just cut and paste from other sites, without accepting responsibility for their contents. Thirdly, you type INVALID in BIG CAPS and then think that therefore makes your point. How foolish. I can debate with you on this forum in a seperate thread regarding Shia, but I dont think its fair to hijack this thread, thats all. Also, if you'
  16. Beetlejuice, Firstly , do you have your own opinions , or are you just going to cut and paste everything you write from other sites, and then should anyone question it, you wont debate it , e.g. "if you have a problem with what ive written, write to them". Secondly, being offensive benefits no-one on this forum, neither you nor sikhism. Now that thats said, let me refute your shia stuff. You can find refutations of Shia here :- http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/cults/sources_of_shia.htm http://www.ansar.org/english/index.htm All your hype about Taqiyah, Muta, etc, are all fro
  17. Further Discussions in Sikhism A Continuation of Dialogue in response to Sikh Answers to the Discourse “10 Questions Regarding Sikhism†Introduction This is the second volume of “10 Questions to Sikhismâ€, in which after the voluminous number of queries, questions and discussions regarding these questions, a response was published by members of the Sikh Community, and featured on a number of discussion boards, including www.sikhawareness.com. The reason for this second volume is to respond in more depth, and at a more complex level, to ensure that any basic points in the ori
  18. You are clearly misguided Sikh Answers. Perhaps you should study islam yourself rather than cut and pastes from Christian websites. There is NO country, region or government which implements Islamic Law in totality, nor has there been since the time of Ibn Taymiyaah and Ibn Qayim, which is over 800 years ago. Therefore, to claim that Islamic Law was implemented recently in this case is a falsehood. iii. The actual Islamic verdict and punishment for Rape is completely different. Here is an example of a Hadith (saying) of the Prophet(saw) on the matter :- "It is reported by Wa'il Ibn Hu
  19. Hmm...I have my own theories as to why all the above get on so well with each other. As for your comments about Umar, Uthman, etc ( May Allah be pleased with them ) they are so easily refuted its ridiculous. Let me finish my response to the "10 Questions" 'Rebuttal' (or not ), and then I will get back to the board with a response to all this nonsense.
  20. Dont worry dudes and Dudettes, I havent gone anywhere, Im just writing a response to the "10 Questions" ""Refutation""...I'll be back, as an Austrian Californian Governor might say.
  21. Hi Vijay, Heres my response, i am working on part two now! Yes, that’s the one. He was one of the greatest in enmity to Islam, and then after hearing the Qu’ran, and speaking to his Sister, he converted and became one of the strongest in Islam. Inshallah God makes me be as strong in Islam and as dedicated as him, and inshallah I hope that God opens your heart to Islam in the same way, amen. The qu’ran has yet to go against science, it has always been proved right. However, I am not one for science and believe the miracle of the quran is in the lack of anyone successfully m
  22. Hi There, Firstly, sorry for the delay in getting back, it is hard to make time to respond, run a website and hold a full-time job, but I am still giving it my best shot! Ok, here we go :- The proof is textual, i.e. through belief that the Quran is from God, Rationally, I then accept everything within it. Im sorry, I don’t understand the point, please explain Allah(SWT) is independent, and of course he can. But what is the point, when 114 chapters contain all the guidance we need. Of course not! Allah(swt) is unbound by any constrictions. Where did I say A
  23. Dynamic Banda :- The divinity of the Quran can be proved through the rational and intellectual mind. In science, you have a hypothesis, for example “I believe that liquid becomes gas when heatedâ€. I test this hypothesis. I find that all liquids when heated, indeed do become gas, albeit at different temperatures, and therefore I can now state as fact that All Liquids, when heated, become Gas. To make this statement false, I need to find a liquid that when heated, does not turn to gas, upon which I will go back to the drawing board, and come up with a new hypothesis. In the same wa
  24. A Prophet is a vehicle for transmission of Gods word to his own people, whereas the Prophet receives revelation through an Angel, owing to the words of God being too powerful for a human being, and Prophets are, ultimately, human beings. Where do I get this from? From the Qu’ran, which I rationally believe in ( as no-one can produce a chapter like the Qu’ran, or find contradictions, etc, etc issues already discussed ) , and therefore if I believe the Quran is the word of God, then EVERYTHING in it I also believe to be correct. I use however because I do not personally believe that
  25. So someone called "Ali" never edited or deleted posts from Omar247 in November 2003?
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