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    das got a reaction from Kaur10 in Vahiguroo da Abhyaas...   
    Thanks Neo veerji,

    I came to know the following techniques by Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji. Could you please guide me to source (Devan OR Atmik Bachan OR Diary)? I know the source of 1, 2 techniques......1st is from Baba Ji's diary and 2nd is from Babaji Atmik Bachan...................but I do NOT know about 3rd and 4th technique..................moreover is there any comparison for these techniques by Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji:

    - Techniques given by sant baba isher singh ji rara sahib waley (sub branch of bhai dya singh samparda)

    Jap(meditation) is also done by: SOURCE By Atmik Bachan


    1. Baikri Bani- When one recites naam with javan(tongue), hout(lips), khaieyal(thoughts) that is called Baikari Bani.

    2. Madhma Bani- When one recites naam in Kant(throat) without moving lips...just with the thoughts is called Madhma Bani.

    3. Pasanti Bani- When one recites naam in hirda(heart).

    4. Para Bani- When one recites naam in Nabhi(Navel) without moving tongue and with the thoughts. In this stage vahiguroo naam gets infused in rom rom of the body. Meditation goes in automatic mode. There is no need for concentration.

    Gurmukh Rom Rom Har Dhavaie ||

    After 4th stage, one gets to very high stage. Where one can hear(jap-resonance,dhuni) with their surati in pretty much everything in this creation ie- walls, birds, leafs, animals, human being, even from realms (bhramands).

    Dharat Patal Akash Hai Meri Jindaeriye
    Sab Har Har Naam Dhavaiya Ram ||

    2nd technique: SOURCE By Babaji's Diary


    Va Va Da Abhyaas Nabhi Ch Karo
    (Doing Simran of Va Va on Nabhi/Navel )

    Hi Hi Di Awaaz Hiradaie Ch
    (Doing Simran of hi hi on the heart)


    Gu Gu Kant ch Karo
    (Doing Simran Gu on the kant/near throat)

    And

    Ru Ru Di Awaaz Mastaak mai Ratan Kartaie Hoye Birti Kou Nirgun Atma Mein Lin Kar Duo

    (Doing Simran Ru Ru on the Mastaak/third eye)

    So its a cycle - Va ( on Nabhi) Hi(on heart) Gu (on Kant) Ru(On Mastak/third eye).

    Thats one cycle....I dont know...this cycle or stage explained in the book is the first intial stage to the simran or second last stage in simran....

    3rd technique: SOURCE By Sant Baba Isher Singh JI ?????


    This is also included in Soraj Parkash Granth.

    According to a prasang(divan) on chapter of mata ajeeto kaur reaching enlightment. Mata ajeto kaur was under guidance of siri guroo gobind singh where she was taught all the "YOG SADHNA/Shabad Surat Marg where chakras are used", when mata ji did yog sadhna, when her birthi(dhyaan) reached - Trikurti/3rd eye..she started seeing the future e.g. the besiegement of Sri Anandpur Sahib, leaving the kila etc and the shaheedia of the char sahibjadey. After seeing this in a dream she asked Guru Gobind Singh jee whether this was true, Guru Sahib confirmed this.

    Mata jee then told guru jee that she could not see all this pain happen and would rather die/ leave for Sachkand and asked permission to leave her body. Guru Sahib jee granted her permission and subsequently she did ishnaan, a Sukhmani Sahib da Paath and then left her body by reciting the mantar and with that mantar taking her prana on top and realising it via bhram randar nari( subtle vein) through dasam dwara.

    4th technique: SOURCE By Sant Baba Isher Singh JI ?????

    First concentrate on Sargun saroop of Vahiguroo while reciting shabad ie- Gur Ki Morat Man mein dhyaan Guru Ka shabad mantar man maan

    then after mind becomes subtle, that shabad will automatically take you upper realms and that shabad will infuse in your surat


    Thanks in advance
    Das
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in My Sankalpa   
    Best of luck bhaji, may God bless you and your family. Raab tuhade sir te hath rakh ke tuhade too path karvave.

    Let me request you the following that I've learnt personally. I'm NOT suggesting you anything. Just merely stating what have been instructed by many Sants and Mahatamas.
    Do Mool-mantar till "Nanak Hose Bhe Sach". Try doing 6 malas everyday of 108 beads for One Full Year. It will roughly be 236520. Do NOT miss a day. Nice to have: Would be great if you could do it, otherwise it's okay.
    If possible, make sure that you do your mala each day on the same time and same place. If possible, use the mala 108 + 1 (Meru bead: It is the quiding bead, the one that marks the beginning and end of the mala.) beads. The following is NOT suggested by Sant (I haven't heard), but based upon the facts that these malas were extensively used in the past and special significance of wool in energy.
    If possible, use the mala made of white wool.
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in What is significance of 108 and 40   
    Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

    I would like to learn about the reasons behind 108 and 40. I am not raising the question against the validity of these, I just want to increase my knowledge regarding 108 and 40.

    108:
    1. Most of the time there are 108 beads in a Mala.
    2. We refer to Puran Baramgani with 108.

    40:
    1. Sometimes Puran Baramganis asks us to do some Gurbani path at some particular time (mostly before sunrise) for 40 days without interuption and that is particularly for a specific reason. (BUT we should NOT do chalisa ourself, I mean without the bachan of Puran Baramgani. I know about "Sankat Mochan - Shabad Sidhi" which we should NOT follow without Puran Baramganis bachan. These are the techiques that can be followed only with the bachans of Puran Baramgani, and Puran Baramgani usually instruct us to do this under limited circumstances. And everone knows that ).
    2. Almost every religion consider 40 as auspicious.


    Therefore, there is something specific about 108 and 40.
    Could anyone shed some light on 108 or 40.

    I came across number of things for 108 like: there are 108 energy line connecting chakaras, there are 108 desires, 108 lies, 36*3 (previous, current and future) etc. etc., but then why we attach 108 with puran baramgani.

    Any suggestions Neo, Vikaramjet and other senior members!

    Das
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Is it a sin if we place water in some pot or jug nearby guru granth sahib ji   
    There is lot of information available in the mentioned books ranging from Health, Super-natural powers, GoldenRatio, Flying Saucers, absorbing natural powers from universe. So, I don't know what exactly you're looking for. But here is the sample from the 2 books:
    Reference: Page-93 of Living Water and Secrets of Natural Energy By Viktor Schauberger:
    If water or air is rotated into a twisting form of oscillation known as 'colloidal', a build up of energy results, which, with immense power, can cause levitation. This form of movement is able to carry with it its own means of power generation. This principle leads logically to its application in the design of the ideal airplane or submarine. In 1943 era lot of flying saucers were designed on these principles.
    Reference: Page 65 of Sensitive Chaos The creation of Flowing Forms in Water and Air By Theodor Schwenk
    Water shaken in a vessel can be caused to move in such a way that the inner surfaces thus created all slide past each other in the moving liquid. As soon as the movement ceases, the formation of inner surfaces, and thus also the great impressionability, is arrested, and the "sense organ" closes itself. If water is shaken in this way, all the many forms of movement arise in it which we have been describing singly for the sake of ?larity. The same is true of the natural movement of water, in which also a great variety of movements combine. Not only the shaking of a container but also other kinds of movement can open up the water as a sense organ.
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    From the second reference it is quite clear why it is recommended to have the water (within the round earthen pot) near the Guru Granth Sahib Ji. The reason is: When the water is in constant motion (vortexes are created no matter how slow the motion is) and from within the pores of clay pot Air (another natural force) interacts with water and thus water acting as the Sense Organ and retaining/locking the environment in itself.
    So, prefered and correct way to place water near Sri Guru Granth Sahib is: Put the water in Round Earthen pot and do NOT try to put support to pot. The earthen pot will give natural motion and thus create the water to sense organ of the universe and the Bani uttered will be stored in the water and thus could be tagged as Amrit.
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Is it a sin if we place water in some pot or jug nearby guru granth sahib ji   
    I believe placing water near The Guru Granth Sahib Ji is good and right. At the same time, it is NOT the replacement of having you hear the Bani. There are lot of today's so-called scholars as well as owners-of-religions who say that placing water or having a Desi-ghee jyot is manmat (not the way of Sikhi) but sadly they are wrong. They neither understood the Bani nor the working/principles/rules of this Universe.
    So, for the record, it is beneficial to place water (in round earthen pot) near Guru Granth Sahib Ji or any other place where the glories of Waheguru/God are sung/discussed. In-fact, it is good to place a glass of water near you when you're reading Gurbani or Meditating on the name of Waheguru and then consume that water afterwards or one can also sprinkle that water into their home.
    For our monkey mind: Water is the first and foremost winner in the field of acquiring the frequency/energy/signals of the environment and this is the reason Water is being used in almost all religions baptism ceremonies. If you're interested in getting more information on Water Energies, then here is the list of books; all of the following books have information about the secret energies of water.
    * Control of Colloid Stability through Zeta Potential by Thomas Riddick
    * Living Energies by Callum Coats
    * Living Energies by Viktor Schauberger
    * Living Water and Secrets Of Natural Energy by Viktor Schauberger
    * The Water Wizard by Viktor Schauberger
    * The Hidden Messages in Water by Masaru Emoto
    * The Secret Life of Water by Masaru Emoto
    * Sensitive Chaos: The Creation of Flowing Forms in Water and Air By Theodor Schwenk
    * Flowforms: The Rhythmic Power of Water by John Wilkes
    * The Fourth Phase of Water: Beyond Solid, Liquid, and Vapor by Gerald H. Pollack
     
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev jee is greater than Vishnu jee/Shiv jee/Other Deities   
    Sant Baba Isher Singh Rara Sahib wale used to say: If the Guru is not-pura/complete but the student has 100% faith in his Guru that he is the God; then there are chances that student will reach higher Spiritual stages and will eventually get real Guru. On the other hand if the Guru is pura/complete/God-Himself but student does not have 100% faith on his Guru, then the student will NOT succeed. It means that Faith is more important.
    Also, why the hell you're so desperate to show the world (other religions) to counter-act their claims? The real point is: What you've achieved by following Guru Nanak Dev Ji? Think about yourself, in dargah, your Spiritual achievements will be measured and not your debating skills (debating on topics which are all illusion).
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    das got a reaction from SunnySingh in What Is Kaal?   
    When we know the difference between Container and Content, then we will have knowledge.....
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Who can eat Meat?   
    For the record, I'm pure vegetarian......and I fail to see where did I say it's okay to kill if you want? Stop putting words in my mouth.
    What I meant was: Both vegetarian and non-vegetarian involves the killing but being vegetarian involves lot less karmic burden as compared to non-vegetarian. It implies that the debate on This-vs-That is useless mind's habit where we forgot that the real thing is be out of karmic cycle by putting the dhayan/concentration on that which will lift us Spiritually. Concentrating on Vegi as well as Non-Vegi would NOT make you or me Spiritually advanced. e.g If you're pure-vegetarian but constantly debates about the benefits of being vegetarians (non-killers), then your mind is still concentrating on vegi-nonvegi.
    Don't make This-vs-That your profession. Be wise to see beyond. And again, I'm a vegetarian and thinks that being vegetarian gives me somewhat more edge on the thoughts of the mind; because after-all: we are what we eat.
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Who can eat Meat?   
    Here you're again forgetting the reality. Paapiman is right that all foods (veg or non-veg) means you're killing something, even a grain of wheat does have a germ........the air we breathe also contains lot of microorganism which we kill after we breathe. So, that the way this damn universe works. It is just a matter of choosing which involves least amount of karmic burden.
    Otherwise, this universe's karmic cycle (matrix) is so vast, so complex, so strong that without the Kirpa/Grace it's impossible to break. e.g Our body does have millions of different kind of micro-organisms which survive only till we're alive and they are dead with our death. So, we've to give lekha/hesab-ketab (consequences for our deeds) because we forced the microorganism to die as we left our body (even though we've no control over our death). This is the bhav sagar/Matrix which we have to cross. In order to survive, we have to do karma.
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    das got a reaction from Inderpal1994 in Amrit/Kesh and fire of Hells   
    Does it mean that the Gurus (not just referring to Sikh Gurus, but in general the concept of Guru) practice partiality towards Mine creed vs Other creed?
    In other words, does it mean ALL religions (including Sikhism) DO have concepts: "Come to us and we'll save you; If you go with other then it's up to other Guru's potential and then we don't take care of you".........something like My-Crowd vs Other-Crowd?
     
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    das got a reaction from Inderpal1994 in Amrit/Kesh and fire of Hells   
    Does it mean that tenth Guru have established an institution which will give benefit to whosoever follows it (even on physical level) but will NOT give that kind of benefit to those who do not follow them?
    Isn't this like Christianity who says that whosoever follows Jesus Christ won't have to go to Hell because Jesus have paid for their sins?
    Actually, as per my understanding, there is some truth to what pappiman has mentioned.
    e.g A person has taken Khanda Da Amrit and then did not follow anything Spititually and ended up doing lot of bad karams. Then the thing is that: His/Her Guru will not allow that person to go to Hell or will not allow the beating along the path to Dharamraj but he/she has to pay for his/her bad deeds via human birth in bad environment (but still human birth with possibility of Spiritual growth). Sometimes, Guru DOES allow that person to go to Hell or force them to take birth in animal world but Guru will always cut short his animal births because he was follower of his faith. Bottom line is: Guru will lend HIS helping hand to the SOUL who has gone astray. Persons without Guru won't have that kind of cushion.
    There are various Sakhis portraying that:
    Sakhi-1: There was a Sikh of tenth Guru who was performing the duty of Parshad distribution in the sangat. One day, another Sikh of high Spiritual came to the Sangat to get parshad; he requested parshad in hurry but the dutyman said harshly "Why you're jumping like bear?" To this the other person picked the parshad from the ground and left. Now, when the dutyman left the world, he was born as bear. But after some time, the bear's life was cut short by GuruJi; thus displaying the power of Guru.
    Also, remember, each Avatar has its own Heaven and the persons worshiping Him as God cannot go beyond the realm of that demi-God.
    But some people take it too strictly saying that as they have taken Amrit, so they won't suffer and they are bound to get benefits. It's not that simple. Mind has to be purified before one can be with HIM, but at the same time the path to real God goes via Guru (and nothing else) and if you follow Guru, then you DO have some cushion because of it.
    Think it from another point of view: What's the use of Guru if HE cannot help the Soul who has done bad deeds under the effect of Maya. But at the same time, even Guru cannot go against the law of karma but HE knows how to go around the karma for the sake of his pupil's Soul. At last, it is not black and white and cannot be explained in words.
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    das got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Creation of everything (all worlds, trinity etc.)   
    Anurag Granth is the discussion between Bhagat Kabir and his devotee (Dharam Das).
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    das got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Creation of everything (all worlds, trinity etc.)   
    This is the shorter version of Part-2 (creation) as per Anurag Granth. I've attached the pdf file because it will be easier to read the pdf in bullet points as compared to the text version.
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    das got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Why did the Gurus NOT write the katha/viakya of Guru Granth Sahib Ji?   
    Hit on bull's eye. 😌
    Seems like you may not have a chance to read the complete thread before posting. The whole point of starting this thread was to: Emphasize the point that "Sant/Brahmgyani" is required if you really want to cross the ocean and go to Sachkhand. It is the doctor who will explain how to take the medicine. If you've some medical knowledge then you can go some-distance with the prescription but ultimately for serious treatment you need to have the doctor.
    The thread's intention was supposed to show the Anti-Sant group that True-Saint is needed and it is mentioned at various places in Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
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    das got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Why did the Gurus NOT write the katha/viakya of Guru Granth Sahib Ji?   
    I am NOT suggesting that one needs Dehghari Guru, actually I'm NOT suggesting anything, if you read Guru Granth Sahib Ji (WITHOUT THE history in mind), then it would be quite clear that Guru Ji HIMSELF (Sri Gruru Granth Sahib Ji) is talking about the necessity/need of Sants. Guru Gobind Singh Ji never said that Sants are not required. If a person really takes Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as his/her Guru, then he/she would be more looking for Sat-Sangat (company of the Truth - the ones who has already achieved something). In other words, if you're really a seeker and have taken Amrit to become Guru-Ka-Sikh, then isn't this a duty of student to listen to his/her Guru (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)? These days, our thinking is: Take Amrit, do Paths and then declare that we have Guru and we don't need Sants. It's has become ritual for us and we never bothered to take a deep look into what Guru is saying.
    If a mere darshan of a real Sant can be beneficial (many references in Guru Granth Sahib Ji), then think about what would be achieved if we're able to serve Him? And here I'm talking about REAL Sants and not the ones who are in news for one reason or the other.
    Sant is
    - NOT the one who teach you
    - NOT the one who guide you
    - NOT the one who instructs you
    - NOT the one who gives you the meaning of Scripture(s)
    - NOT the mediator.
    The above mentioned ones could be Kathakars, excellent teachers, very high Spiritual state but NOT the Sants. Even though a Sant could do all the above but that is one of His techniques.
    Sant is
    - THE one who has come from the Dargah (Karak) to take the souls back home.
    - THE one who can produce many other Sants and give them any duty.
    - THE one which gives you an internal experience and then it is upto seeker to develop that.
    - THE one which gives us the Vivek budh using which we can try to see the real cause. i.e then we can look-within. self-introspection.
    e.g Once Arjun (excellent archer) heard about a old Saint who is known to be excellent archer even better than him. At that point of time, arjun already had all the education and training. So, arjun went to see him and requested him to teach him. The Sant said that I don't have anything to TEACH you, YOU already KNOW what is needed for the best archer. The Sant also mentioned that he has not taken the bor/arrow for the last many decades and the Sant asked arjun to go for a bath in river.
    Arjun and the Sant started walking towards a little pond; on the way they had to cross a very wek temporary rope bridge over the 2 mountains. The Sant asked arjun for his bow and arrow as he wanted to check if he remembered everything. The Sant walked on the rope bridge (which was moving side-to-side) and then stopped in the middle of the bridge to take the aim at one of the fruit hanging from the tree in the mountain. He hit the aim. Arjun was astonished at the Sant's feet. The Sant asked the arjun to try the same shot again from the bridge. It took arjun many minutes to just stabilize himself on the moving rope and he shot the arrow so badly that it didn't even hit the tree what to say about the fruit. Now, the Sant mentioned to arjun that arjun does have ALL THE KNOWLEDGE but still lacks the STABLENESS.
    In other words, Sant is The one which provides support to our Soul in this moving maya world. He gives us the spark which holds us stable and we need to develop that stableness further.
    HE cannot be found no matter how hard we try, no matter how hard we think, no matter how hard we do self-introspection, no matter how hard we look within. We cannot find the ONE which was never lost, HE IS here. BUT HE HIMSELF discloses HIMSELF when we've tried our best and eventually have Surrended......... [Karma, Surrender, Vivek]
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Amrit/Kesh and fire of Hells   
    Does it mean that tenth Guru have established an institution which will give benefit to whosoever follows it (even on physical level) but will NOT give that kind of benefit to those who do not follow them?
    Isn't this like Christianity who says that whosoever follows Jesus Christ won't have to go to Hell because Jesus have paid for their sins?
    Actually, as per my understanding, there is some truth to what pappiman has mentioned.
    e.g A person has taken Khanda Da Amrit and then did not follow anything Spititually and ended up doing lot of bad karams. Then the thing is that: His/Her Guru will not allow that person to go to Hell or will not allow the beating along the path to Dharamraj but he/she has to pay for his/her bad deeds via human birth in bad environment (but still human birth with possibility of Spiritual growth). Sometimes, Guru DOES allow that person to go to Hell or force them to take birth in animal world but Guru will always cut short his animal births because he was follower of his faith. Bottom line is: Guru will lend HIS helping hand to the SOUL who has gone astray. Persons without Guru won't have that kind of cushion.
    There are various Sakhis portraying that:
    Sakhi-1: There was a Sikh of tenth Guru who was performing the duty of Parshad distribution in the sangat. One day, another Sikh of high Spiritual came to the Sangat to get parshad; he requested parshad in hurry but the dutyman said harshly "Why you're jumping like bear?" To this the other person picked the parshad from the ground and left. Now, when the dutyman left the world, he was born as bear. But after some time, the bear's life was cut short by GuruJi; thus displaying the power of Guru.
    Also, remember, each Avatar has its own Heaven and the persons worshiping Him as God cannot go beyond the realm of that demi-God.
    But some people take it too strictly saying that as they have taken Amrit, so they won't suffer and they are bound to get benefits. It's not that simple. Mind has to be purified before one can be with HIM, but at the same time the path to real God goes via Guru (and nothing else) and if you follow Guru, then you DO have some cushion because of it.
    Think it from another point of view: What's the use of Guru if HE cannot help the Soul who has done bad deeds under the effect of Maya. But at the same time, even Guru cannot go against the law of karma but HE knows how to go around the karma for the sake of his pupil's Soul. At last, it is not black and white and cannot be explained in words.
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Why Sikhi failed to spread   
    Isn't this because we've tried to trap Sikhi in a box and not understood the real thing? Haven't we reduced Sikhi to grow hair and Amrit (sanskar)? or may be it's just the effect of Mind/Kaal because it is said in Bhagat Kabir's Anurag Sagar that whenever any Saint/Guru will come to earth for the betterment of mankind, then Kaal will try everything to derail that stream....
     
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Bhangra/Gidha Vs Sikhism   
    Don't we ALL dance to the tune of our Mind/Desires/Maya??
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    das got a reaction from Premi in Cinnamon Dangerous?   
    Everyone should note the following important points:

    Cinnamon are of 2 types: Ceylon (soft, more soft in taste) and Cassia (hard, more spicy taste).

    True cinnamon is called Ceylon/Zeylanicum and it comes principally from Sri Lanka, India, Madagascar, Brazil and the Caribbean.

    On the other hand the most common used cinnamon is called Cassia (Chinese/Saigon cinnamon) and it comes principally from Indonesia, China, Vietnam, Japan and Korea.

    It is Cassia cinnamon which will create some problems because of its high amount of Coumarin (natural blood thinner) which is an anti-coagulant and can be irritating to the liver. But the TRUE cinnamon (Ceylon) has trace amounts of Coumarin and all the old scriptures do talk about TRUE Cinnamon. So, taking Ceylon is NOT dangerous at all. Try to use True Cinnamon if you are using it; specially for medicinal purposes.
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in How To Speed Up Recitation Of Japji Sahib   
    There is no point in reciting fast just for the sake of doing certain number of paths in shortest span of time. But some people try to do that to prove that someone is wrong who used to do certain paths in very short span of time.

    The real punch here is: One can even do one Japji Sahib path in 1 second. If you want to try it, here is the technique. and Best of Luck. I guess by the time anyone attains (not learn) that technique, that person would loose the interest to do path in shortest span of time. He will just enjoy.

    Raise your consciousness. e.g Light is treated as the fastest; but in reality Thought/Mind is the fastest. Now, remember that even Thoughts/Mind is travelling within some space. Bottom line is: Mind/Thought cannot travel faster than the Soul because Soul is everywhere. In other words, the distance travelled vs the time taken can only be measured IFF we've 2 seperate points of interest, but as Soul is everywhere then there is NO time NO distance. Soul is the medium in which Time and Space operates.

    Therefore, the factor one reaches higher in the state (Physical, Astral, and Casual), one experience different time as compared to one on earth. But if one wants to travel beyond the time, then one needs to go beyond the Mind, beyond the Casual realm, i.e to the Source of Time itself. Once anyone reaches the Soul state, then there is no time whatsoever. and consequently one can do any number of paths in 1 second or 0 second. Time is just a factor of Mind.

    That's where the concept of Parallel universes, Time Slip comes from.
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Salok Japji Sahib Antreev Arth   
    Pal bhaji, could you please let us know the reference from where you took the arths. If it's from Sant/Mahapurash, then either you have misunderstood the meanings OR meri mand bhudi and karams are putting a curtain on me and therefore I'm not able to grasp it correctly.

    As per my understanding as of now; Mind cannot be Guru in any case.

    The Guru is the Pavan: which is the power with which everything works; without it nothing (nothing in universe) can work, but it is neither Air nor Oxygen. It is the Prana energy (Neutral energy of God) which flows on the Air and charges everybody. It is also called the "Breath of Life" and [[----Sound is also produced from Prana----- - trying to find reference]]. Once it (Prana) is out then we're dead and it remains in the body as long as it is ordered by Kaal.

    ਪਵਣੈ ਕੈ ਵਸਿ ਦੇਹੁਰੀ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਸਚੁ ਨੀਸਾਣੁ ॥੫॥
    The body is under the power of the breath, according to the True Sign inscribed upon your forehead. ||5||

    Secondly, Prana energy is the main force (river/source) from which 2 other rivers are born: Sun and Moon energy.
    In other words, energy must have a center to move from and an objective to flow to. So, we’ve a ‘Breath of Life’ called Prana (Pavan) which is the source of the 2 forces (Sun/Moon) working in this universe. These twin forces operate in all created forms, for without these two factors, neither function nor perpetuation of forms would be possible. These two forces constantly flow out of each other and into each other to sustain the function called Life. The inter-play of these two cosmic essences functioning as four rivers (Air, Fire, Water, and Earth) of attraction and repulsion is called the Life.
    1.Air and Warmth principle Above (Sun Principle): It is Positive, Yang, Male, Sun principle, Outgoing, Expanding, and Radiating. These are also called Father (Air) and Son (Fire) principle.
    2.Moon (Water) and Earth principle Below (Moon Principle): It is Negative, Yin, Feminine, Moon principle, Contraction, Concentration and Resistance. These are also called Mother (Moon/Water) and Daughter (Earth) principle. Bottom line is that: Prana is the main source of everything and therefore it is our Guru; and we’re made up of 5 basic elements (which are derived from the interplay of 2 cosmic forces which were also derived from one basic Prana energy). Water sustains us; basically human body is 70% water. Earth is our mother because she carries our burden and gives us everything to eat (vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts etc).

    Parpanch
    This whole world is Parpanch i.e just the 5 things: Naam (Name), Roop (Form), Sat (Truth/God), Chit (Pure Consciouness), Anand (Supreme Bliss). These are the five things that are famously known as the 'world'. Out of these, Naam and Roop are destructible and bound to go through transformations. Sat-Chitt-Anand is sweetness, it neither dies nor transforms. This rass is called by names like Waheguru or Parmatma or Khuda or God.
    Naam and Roop are composed of five basic elements - Earth, Water, Fire, Air, and Space. These five elements are tangible (matter) and everything in 2nd and 3rd division are made up of various combinations of these 5 basic elements, while Sat-Chitt-Anand is the true self of everyone. Sat-Chit-Ananda is not 3 different things. It is different dimensions of 1 thing. Immortal, eternal and unchanging. The body has been given to this self for a limited time, upon which it will be taken away (known as death).
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    das got a reaction from Premi in Drunk’ Bhagwant Mann forced to leave bhog   
    The video do NOT prove he was drunk; also the argument "if he was in sober condition then he would have fought very hard......" do not prove that he was drunk; this argument is just a generalizing based upon your current thinking without realizing the conditions of that time. Have you ever faced a mob with sword? I guess not (based upon my personal thinking) because there is a difference between bravery vs egoist bravery (foolishness). And if you say that a true warrior should fight no matter what, then obviously you have never faced the real situation. That's why strategy plays an important role in all wars. e.g a arrow could be fired by bow only if the string is pulled backward first.
    Again I'm not saying, he is guilty or not. I do NOT know. He may or may not have drunk. The whole point is: What is the truthful proof either way? Even in the past, lot of killings (1947) happened just because someone says that somewhere our community members are killed and therefore we should do the same. They didn't bother to check the facts. Keep your eyes open and mouth shut is the best mantra.
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    das got a reaction from sevak in Best time for simran during amrit vela and evening   
    Yes, strictly in technical sense (as per the rules of this working universe) your advice is completely wrong. It doesn't hold any water. Because you didn't understand the meaning of Amrit vela (it has everything to do with the Space AND Time)
    But from higher point of view, nothing is right or wrong. 
    Right advice: Is whatever way enables a person (seeker) to easily move towards the path of God. Also removing the bottlenecks which is creating obstacles or giving excuses to the seeker for not moving on the path of God. Wrong advice: Is when the seeker is burdened with useless/technically-wrong techniques/rituals/dos-donts and thus missing the main-point. The seeker is already confused about techniques and then the adviser is replacing one technique with another technique (and that's with wrong one) Now, you decide (based upon the above definition) whether your advice was right or wrong?
    Moreover, even going with your logic "Well, the vibrations being emitted by all historical Gurudwaras in India would be very strong. One just needs to be at a spiritual level (obviously very high) to be able to tune the mind to them. It will be a lot easier for a person to tune his mind to those frequencies, if he has physically been to those places (Gurudwaras) and done intense meditation there." What about the frequency of THE ONE which is OMNIPRESENT? Every Soul did actually came from THE ONE (nij ghar), then he/she should try to tune in the mind to that ghar instead of any historical Gurudwara (which is also emitting the frequency from the real source)? Think about that. So, even going with your approach (expand it a bit farther to real Nij Ghar), you should have suggested that God is everywhere, you could do the path during the evening time (as per the clock).
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    das got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Devi Pargat By Guru Gobind Singh?   
    Guru Gobind Singh Ji never pargat any devi-devta as per my understanding. Why would HE needs to pargat devi-devta. As per Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Bachatar Natak, GOD ordered Him to create a Khalsa panth and there is NO reason to pargat devi-devta. My understanding is that here Chandi is NOT refered to as Chandi Devi. In-fact Chandi is refered to as Sword.

    Secondly, I remember one more issue where it is being said that Guru Gobind Singh Ji did pargat of Nena Devi. Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji (Rara Sahib Wale) once told the following Sakhi regarding Nena Devi.

    The place where "Nena Devi" is situated actually belongs to Nena Jaat. There was a pandat named as "Ishav Das" who was proud of his knowledge. Guru Gobind Singh Ji asked pandat "Ishav Das" if it's possible to pargat some devta these days....he says yes, but a lot of things/samargre will be required. Guru Ji asked him to pargat devta and took the responsibility of providing him with the required samargre. After doing a lot of puja to pargat devte, no devta came and then Guru Ji asked ke what happened while returning from hunting with truck lot of animals/birds. To this pandat said ke "How devte will come as you're killing animals. To this Guru Ji asked if I do NOT hunt then will devte will pargat and pandat said yes. Guru Ji asked all dead animals to run and all birds to fly and it happened. Pandat again continued his things for some days with NO success. Now, again pandat said ke a bali/sacrifice of person having very pavitar/Sudh Maan is required. Pandat was thinking that he will ask for Guru Ji's son's bali and then Guru Ji will refuse and he will get a easy way out. To this Guru Ji said ke "You are the most pavitar so tomorrow we'll give your bali" and therefore the pandat ran during night. Now, Guru Ji throw all the remaining things in havan kund and it leads to big fireworks and people started saying that Devi came and renamed that place to Neena Devi because that belonged to Nena Jaat. In reality, no devi-devta came.
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    das got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Devi Pargat By Guru Gobind Singh?   
    Guru Gobind Singh Ji never pargat any devi-devta as per my understanding. Why would HE needs to pargat devi-devta. As per Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Bachatar Natak, GOD ordered Him to create a Khalsa panth and there is NO reason to pargat devi-devta. My understanding is that here Chandi is NOT refered to as Chandi Devi. In-fact Chandi is refered to as Sword.

    Secondly, I remember one more issue where it is being said that Guru Gobind Singh Ji did pargat of Nena Devi. Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji (Rara Sahib Wale) once told the following Sakhi regarding Nena Devi.

    The place where "Nena Devi" is situated actually belongs to Nena Jaat. There was a pandat named as "Ishav Das" who was proud of his knowledge. Guru Gobind Singh Ji asked pandat "Ishav Das" if it's possible to pargat some devta these days....he says yes, but a lot of things/samargre will be required. Guru Ji asked him to pargat devta and took the responsibility of providing him with the required samargre. After doing a lot of puja to pargat devte, no devta came and then Guru Ji asked ke what happened while returning from hunting with truck lot of animals/birds. To this pandat said ke "How devte will come as you're killing animals. To this Guru Ji asked if I do NOT hunt then will devte will pargat and pandat said yes. Guru Ji asked all dead animals to run and all birds to fly and it happened. Pandat again continued his things for some days with NO success. Now, again pandat said ke a bali/sacrifice of person having very pavitar/Sudh Maan is required. Pandat was thinking that he will ask for Guru Ji's son's bali and then Guru Ji will refuse and he will get a easy way out. To this Guru Ji said ke "You are the most pavitar so tomorrow we'll give your bali" and therefore the pandat ran during night. Now, Guru Ji throw all the remaining things in havan kund and it leads to big fireworks and people started saying that Devi came and renamed that place to Neena Devi because that belonged to Nena Jaat. In reality, no devi-devta came.
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