Dancing Warrior

“Taken from Sikh Sangat” Gurbani is now my puppet it now sings to my tune….blasphemy Believe as I believe or suffer hell and damnation

God, creator, created and life is beyond meaning to give it a meaning you’ve restricted the vastness and infinite quality. We only comprehend the small morsels of infinite Pratama within our intellectual capacity. Accumulative knowledge and prayer amass is not about spirituality. Spirituality it is about experience with creator and all creation via the route of life.

Ignorance has been the catalyst on both sides of the spectrum in this situation. Everyone’s fighting the righteous cause regardless of human tragedy. As an experiment take away the labels on this incident and it’s the same primitive mentality throughout the world throughout history. In an age when access to information and knowledge has never been so spontaneous its use is still unrefined in the hands of Neanderthals. Everyone’s under attack and everyone’s being assimilated paranoia is the only religion just in different garbs, there you go! Common ground for all the righteous beadbi police out there all alike the protestors, leaflet distributors, shooters, baba this that and the other……and all the fascist hate mongers at sikhsangat.Crap

Sikhsangat.com is nothing but a hive of self back slapping pricks!

I will now leave and pray for your souls whilst you continue your cheap personal attacks for lack of real arguments. kind regards Bahadur Ali Shah There is no need for you to pray for our souls; you need to pray for your kith and kin that obviously as a vast majority are alien to your “lost world of Atlantis†dreams. :wink:

The Linga originally was a tool for yogic science it was never an object for worship. I think there are only two or three remaining within India today that of any significance and power. The whole complex or temple that the Linga was built in was a science in itself lost today except for a handful who do still have the knowledge. Today we find a mix of two types of belief systems of devotional worship towards the Linga, this originally never happened. Devotional worship being one method for example Sikhi, and the Linga towards another method more inline with yogic science. Both towards the same goal ultimately.

Bahudar ali, you should spend less time on the net and a bit more time working those floppy pounds off your midsection. Again You spend your time slating Sikhi and Sikhs the reality is you’re only frustrated with yourself and your inability to root yourself in any worthy society according to your trumped up standards. This is not to deviate from the topic and the vastness on knowledge crammed in your cranium but more of an analysis of your twisted mischievous behaviour. If we are failing, then let us fail, you obviously are enlightened enough to have found the true path so what concern is it of yours what happens to the non-believers in your bakwasism? Fundamentally your motive is to destabilise and create doubt and confusion; this is fine, because ultimately these are also the tools that are required for seekers to gain knowledge. On another level what people don’t seem to understand is true devotion be it in Sikhi, Islam or whatever doesn’t require the collection of mass information and surgical minds to disprove beliefs of others or confirm their own. The ill intentional mass of knowledge doesn’t differ from any other obsessive wants, desires and needs if anything it’s probably the worst one. It’s the bahudar ali mentality that is responsible for the most of the conflict in the world today, just take a look it’s all there, everyday in the papers in the news. However we started, however we developed, however we argue today, we don’t blow each other up in markets squares, schools and hospitals indiscriminately killing innocent women and children alike. You see it doesn’t matter if a man prays to an apple yet he knows fundamentally the grossness of such actions, but how can he know anything to the likes of the True knowledge and enlightened mentality of the likes a bandar ali who excepts it as perfectly acceptable……as long as they’re from the opposite opinion and faction. Bahudar get a hobby and get on an exercise bike and to those that blew their trumpets in the defence of the pseudo-scholar over the last few years, let this be a lesson to you. Flipping saps.

I miss the Puratan 1980’s!

Such things have compiled karma that they could not work off during their life. This causes them to “hang around” after they leave their body. Unnatural death for example by disease, accident, murder etc can leave such beings in a traumatic state. After the physical death they do not have reason, choice, and intelligence as we understand it they only behave according to their compulsion, tendencies, and desires. There is no rational thought as we know it because that part of the physical has been left in the body. Their actions simply reflect what is engrained in their Karma. There is no right or wrong because for them there is no choice. To us they do and can appear according to their projection of their engrained karma those tendencies that were the strongest during their life. To us they appear distorted but they are simply projected honestly according to their karma. They cannot see themselves as this; they only see types of energy manifestations, this is also how they see us. Not all are like this and there are different types and levels. Some are very aware and have chosen to remain in this state for their own reasons. Some remain in hellish states some heavenly. There is no “Dark Art” as such this fascination with darkness being evil etc etc is just stereotyping. Darkness in unlimited it is light that has limitations. The occult also is not this evil force we in the west associate it to, often near very ancient temples there are also tantric temples these are there to attract these beings and help them towards closure, liberation, Mukti etc. These are there to stop such beings from going in to the main temple due to its nature it attracts such beings. The Yogi, whose knowledge this is explains in great depth and often deals with such matters and the liberation of such beings, continues to say that those who entrap such beings for their own use and desires are the same as those that molest children. These lost beings like us are the same as us, ultimately aware or unaware they also seek Mukti. And those that manipulate such being spend their own limbo in the most hellish states.

In defence I wasn’t using the term loosely or re-defining it. The “it†being larger than the term. The term was most suitable for the expression of action, I was simply trying to explain something to the best of my ability. There was no motive or intent for “the validation of (my) views†therefore I stand not guilty of all three of your charges.

Energy as you say is a make up of a type of matter and the overall energy vibrancy, true, but this is not the tangible energy I’m referring to. I use the term “energy†because in this case it is the easiest way to explain, it is not really energy at all……it gets long talking about different types of Karmic make up of the physical, Mind etc and what some refer to as the “Soul†and its relevance to such incidents, so I use the word energy, however this is also inaccurate. The “it†here is incredibly complex and difficult to explain. There is nothing Mystical, Paranormal or Hippy heaven about it, simply the process of physical death and the subsequent scenarios, No Science, No Scripture.

Such things are just energies, which for some reason are not able to transcend to closure. Usually in the case of possessions the energy, ghost etc call it what you like, can if vibrant enough cause possessions longing the attachment to live. Usually they are used remorselessly by those that dabble in the occult. Such energies that are traumatised enough are used in these ways.

"Who you gonna call!?........Ghostbusters!"

Maybe he didn’t go off in a strop, maybe he just went to fetch!