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  1. Talking of which, can anyone tell me anything about Sant Baba Karam Singh Ji Chaah Vale of Johal? They also attended the seminar as 'vishesh mahiman'.
  2. Seminar finished. The title was the 'bahupakhi den' of the Nirmale and many pakhis were considered. Maha seva of Sriman 108 Sant Jodh Singh Ji of Nirmal Ashram and Sriman 108 Mahant Balwant Singh Ji Secretary of Panchayti Akhara Nirmala and pradhan of Akhil Bharatiya Akhara Parishad. Many many mahapurush were there who gave wonderful lectures. Very pleased to hear the highly learned pravachans of Sant Darshan Singh Ji Shastri Kashi vale, Sant Jasvinder Singh Ji Shastri and Sant Jail Singh Ji Shasrti, all three part of a new generation of Nirmale. Gyani Sher SIngh Ji Ambale spoke very well abou
  3. A bit of shameless advertising in case anyone is floating around India at the moment, (pm me as its invitation only I think): Through the collaboration of Sriman Sant Jodh Singh Ji of Nirmal Ashram Rishikesh and Sriman Mahant Balwant Singh Ji Secretary the Sri Panchayti Akhara Nirmala will be holding a two day seminar on the Nirmala Sampradaya in Kankhal on the 6th and 7th of December. Papers will be given by a number of Sants, Mahants and scholars. Mahapurush attending include: Sriman Nirmal Bhushan Swami Gyandev Singh Ji Vedantacharya Sriman Sant Jodh Singh Ji of Nirmal Ashram Sri
  4. I agree on McLeod's earlier stuff. But the whole purpose of Harjot Oberoi who gets lumped in with the 'McLeodian school' was to explode the orientalist notions of Sikhi still prevalent in western academia by presenting the reality on the ground in the pre and post British era Punjab. He absolutely succeeds!
  5. Again, scroll through the 'sampradaya' section from a few years ago, there's lots on all those subjects here and there.
  6. You'll find most answers to your questions have been posted many times over on this forum. Please use the search button.
  7. A correction. Nirmalas are expected to go through amrit sanskar. They have been 'Singhs' since their inception. However they don't keep all panj kakkar, only kesh is vital. Sevapanthis nowadays are mostly amritdhari, although not in the past. Udasis never were nor were the Sevapanthis up until the 20th Century. Why? Because they were sadhus who pre-existed the Khalsa Panth and by decree of Guru Maharaj were not expected to uphold the tenets of the shastrdhari tejasvi kshatriya Khalsa Panth. Nirmale are part of the Khalsa Panth but historically were focused on brahamchari, learning and propagat
  8. Interesting points dalsingh. I think you are right about the foreseeable future of Sikh studies. Oberoi sets the blue-print as far as I can see, although I haven't read it in ages, it does have inaccuracies in there. Personally I have no interest in academia per se. That objective critical distance from the subject matter and the study of hermeneutics or use of structuralist/post-structuralist methodologies creates a gulf I'm not willing to create. What an academic sees as an interesting possibility or a relevant insight seems to be determined by what is relevant to that methodology, which
  9. dalsingh101 Of course, and there is a notional sympathy for both the early Namdharis and the Singh Sabha in Nirmala literature. The fallout of the Akali lehar is generally criticised. Obstinacy, distortions and fanaticism of the 'neo Sikh' are criticised. Yet there is also criticism of some Udasis, particularly for changing their appearance. We're going off topic
  10. A 'revision' is the act of looking back over things and altering them. We wouldn't be talking about the Singh Sabha if there were not real and lasting changes made to what existed before! The language is fine. And yes, I'm not at all bothered about what this gets labeled as. Its a consistent tradition written large in black ink on discoloured manuscript paper and in the practices of mahapurush from the last few centuries and well before the late 19th Century.
  11. Pre. The differences will constitute a rather lengthy new book I'm half way through writing...so its a bit tricky to summarise! Its a holistic thing too. Some of the differences are subtle and others are quite striking in the sense that they are an affront to some of the well established Singh Sabha revisions of Sikh doctrine. Rehit, interesting. I've no idea what Fenech's talking about there. Could you find the reference for me? I've read a bit of his stuff and it seemed well researched, if more of that academic thing of ever-egging a topic in the name of groundbreaking academia. What hav
  12. Like I said, there is a difference between the older orders and the newer ideology.
  13. This is where older orders diverge from the newer ideology. Although there is nothing stopping us from being both Sant and maha-bir, and there are incredible personalities in the past who were both such as Baba Budha Ji, Baba Sahib Singh Bedi, Sant Bir Singh Naurangabad, etc, in practical terms people generally have a gunic disposition towards one rather than the other. 18th century literature acknowledges internal diversity in the Singh Panth.
  14. I got lost half way down with talk of multiple planes but I think I understand what you're getting at. Its not so intricate - nirgunvaad plus rajya kshatriya dharam = Khalsa panth. Two streams within it - the raj-rishi so culture, ethics and politics of rajya dharam (thats why translations of chanakya rajniti, mahabharat, along with Sri Dasam Granth, etc) or the braham-rishi, so study of brahamvidya, sattvik maryada, sadhana and pursuit of atamgyan. As we all know karam and dharam are intricately connected, all actions are judged in accordance with dharam. Aatam-Braham, being indivisible c
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