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Is that right bro?
Daas hasn't eaten meat for years. So, if I start eating Jhatka meat now, will I get sick?
 
Bhul chuk maaf

Also side note. I've now witnessed in video form, and audio devotees of the Torah combatting and defeating evil consciousnesses. 
And their Torah interpretation is second to none.
And they, the first nations and most importantly our Brahmgiani have predicted a big war here. So..about those wells and weapons...and maybe stock some radiation meds like prussian blue etc. 
Now would definitely be the best time to follow Rehit, take Amrit, or recommit to it and do Naam Simran and Gurbani in preparation. 
Worst case. Near miss and you're a more fit, prepared Gursikh. 

Black Isrealite probably. 

oh basically it's the same as muslims do now. When they are in minority they behave peaceful, when they build up numbers they behave badly and evil.

Mohammed behaved differently between different the Medina and Mecca times, the verses are different and the behaviours of him and his community. They change the rules, or goalposts, depending on their situation.

oh basically it's the same as muslims do now. When they are in minority they behave peaceful, when they build up numbers they behave badly and evil.

Mohammed behaved differently between different the Medina and Mecca times, the verses are different and the behaviours of him and his community. They change the rules, or goalposts, depending on their situation.

Wanted to come thank your for this perspective again. 

I was thinking that since Jesus said ‘Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?’ that made him lower level than Guru Arjan Dev ji's shabads.
However, just found out now that he could literally have just been quoting from Psalms, which is probably the closest to bani in the Jew tradition.
“Eloi, Eloi, Lama Sabachthani?” – Grace Evangelical Society (faithalone.org)
 
the ved kiteb aren't false, however they do not contain the complete truth either. that is how we can criticise them. 

I was thinking that since Jesus said ‘Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?’ that made him lower level than Guru Arjan Dev ji's shabads.
However, just found out now that he could literally have just been quoting from Psalms, which is probably the closest to bani in the Jew tradition.
“Eloi, Eloi, Lama Sabachthani?” – Grace Evangelical Society (faithalone.org)
 
the ved kiteb aren't false, however they do not contain the complete truth either. that is how we can criticise them. 

bidhi Chand chinna guru ka seena.
 
or 
 
Sajjan Thug.
 
We have to go back to the Gurus and see how they turned actual criminals into sikhs!

Ok, I have read some things on here http://www.sarbloh.info/htmls/article_samparda_kartar.html
http://www.sarbloh.info/htmls/article_samparda_bhindra.html
here are some quotes with sources to back them up:

‘Baba Deep Singh Ji Shaheed-----Till now in their Missal the leaders that have succeeded each other one after another and their companion Sikhs -------. The present Jathedar is Baba Kundan Singh.’
‘Gurmat Rehit Maryada’, Baba Gurbachan Singh Khalsa ‘Bhindrawaley’, Pa.129

‘To carry the distortion further, the Bhindrawaley Taksal now claims to be the spiritual descendants of ‘Damdami Taksal’ (Spiritual lineage of interpreters of Adi Guru Granth) of Baba Dip Singh, although all the followers of Baba Dip Singh and Baba Gurbaksh Singh died to the last man for the sanctity of the Golden Temple. They left no successor. Sant Sundar Singh founder of Bhindrawaley Taksal was student of Sant Gulab Singh, a Nirmala Saint and actually belonged to the Amritsali Taksal. I had the opportunity to meet Sant Inder Singh, brother of Sant Sundar Singh many times and got first-hand material about the Saints life from Sant Gurbachan Singh. Sant Inder Singh died at the age of 104.’
‘The Turban And Sword Of Sikhs, Prof.Trilochan Singh, Pa.390

‘Before Bhindranwalla Jatha, the ‘Taksal’ (school) of Dam Dama had numerous branches teaching to understand Sikh scripture. They did not serve in any way less [than Samparda Bhindra].’
‘Amrit Jiwan’, by Dr Sher Singh Giani, Appendix Pa.230

‘This Dam Dami Taksal - this ‘Dam Damas’ name they [Chokh Mehta] say. That they have just attached that name to themselves. Dam Dami Taksal’s master was Baba Deep Singh Shaheed. Baba Gurbachan Singh himself employed his [baba Deep Singh’s] great name because he himself was a Nihang Singh always alert. He had lived in the ‘Dal Panth’ (Budha Dal) amongst Nihangs.
He had said:
“Lets call it [samparda Bhindra] Dam Dami Taksal there where Maharaj created the Guru Granth”.’
Nihang Baba Mehr Singh, transcript of interview, Summer 2003

‘This Dam Dami Taksal - this ‘Dam Damas’ name they [Chokh Mehta] say. That they have just attached that name to themselves. Dam Dami Taksal’s master was Baba Deep Singh Shaheed. Baba Gurbachan Singh himself employed his [baba Deep Singh’s] great name because he himself was a Nihang Singh always alert. He had lived in the ‘Dal Panth’ (Budha Dal) amongst Nihangs.
He had said:
“Lets call it [samparda Bhindra] Dam Dami Taksal there where Maharaj created the Guru Granth”.’
Nihang Baba Mehr Singh, transcript of interview, Summer 2003


Nihang Niddar Singh: “I have been unable to find any references to Dam Dami Taksal in any ancient texts. In British records there are only references to Akali Nihangs, Udasis and Nirmalas only. Do they [Dam Dami Taksal] not exist?”
Piara Singh Padam: “Taksal has no special mention. They were ‘Gupt’ (hidden].”


‘Listen to the story of Gurbakhsh Singh Nihang and learn. Attained well did he martyrdom at Amritsar. He was a Nihang and a great warrior. Wore he blue dress and kept the conduct well. Waking in the morning he drank Sukha. Becoming intoxicated he brushed his teeth.’
‘Pracheen Panth Prakash’, 1832, Expurgated by Vir Singh, Pa.414

‘Listening [to coming of Afghans] the Singhs got ready weapons and chain mail they adorned on body. Chatka goats, they drunk goblets of opium and Sukha, Gurbakhsh Singh was the groom others the wedding party.’
‘Naveen Panth Prakash’, Giani Gian Singh Nirmala, 1899, Bhasha Vibhag, Pa.928

‘Q:Sant Gurbachan Singh was initiated into the Khalsa at Budha Dal?
A:Yes.
Q:What was his ‘Maryada’ (tradition)?
A: His ‘Maryada’ - at first he drank ‘Sukha Sukhnidan’ (a protein drink laced with cannabis – a favourite amongst all Nihang Singhs). Even when he stayed with Sant Sundar Singh, he ground ‘Sukha’ because he was used to this in the ‘Dal’ (ie, the Budha Dal). He fully respected the ‘Dal’ it was not otherwise. Sant [Gurbachan Singh] was a very good poet what ever sermon was given in morning [by Baba Sundar Singh Ji] he use to by evening turn it into poetry and read it translating it to the Sant who was greatly pleased by this. The Sukha etc……. Meat he had already given up on coming to Sant Sundar Singh - because from there [budha Dal], he had come over here [samparda Bhindra]. ‘Sukha’ he then gave up when he attained responsibility of leadership.’
Giani Gurdev Singh, transcript of interview on October 2001


‘Q: Did Sant Gurbachan Singh accept the traditions of the Nihang Singhs that they have come from the beginning?
A: Yes absolutely.
Giani Gurdev Singh, transcript of interview on November 2001


‘He [baba Gurbachan Singh] never said that you don’t eat meat. They use to say it is the Panth’s traditions [to eat Chatka] but giving wisdom use to explain that, “Oh revered one by eating that which causes pain to body and the mind fills with vice is ruin.” [translation of a quote Guru Adi Durbar], understand because your eating habits have effect on your spiritual state. How is your food - so is your mind….. He said it is not an absolute rule that you do not eat meat. Eat but when there is need for it for instance in battle you are fighting at that time in battle you cannot get anything else to eat. At that time to eat meat is not a sin because then you are to sacrifice your own life.’
Giani Gurdev Singh, transcript of interview on October 2001


‘They [Chowk Mehta] just make it all up [referring to the lineage to extending to Akali Nihang Baba Deep Singh]. Jarnail Singh did not get the turban of succession. The turban was given to Mohan Singh. He was given the turban. There [bhindra], four villages heads gathered, at that time at present I do not know, at that they said who ever those four village heads accepted as worthy of the succession turban they bound it upon him. At that time, the ‘Dera’ [the Bhindra temple complex] was run by Mohan Singh. He [Kartar Singh], did not even stay in the Dera. He was very ‘Krody’ (aggressive/argumentative) in nature even though he was the student of the same teacher [as Baba Mohan Singh, ie. Baba Gurbachan Singh].’
Akali Nihang Baba Anoop Singh, transcript of interview on 1/4/2004

so who will be the new jathedaar of the baba Surjit Singh lineage?
Was the accident part of a conspiracy?

bumping after pandemic lockdowns, and term 2 is about to start in the uk for 2021/2022

one was NihangSingh and another one was either TarnaDal or Harianvela, I cannot remember. They just dissappeared. There are still some remnants in waybackmachine...
 
They were both created after sarbloh.info
 
Actually I remembered, there was another one called tisarpanth

I can't remember, but might have been sarbloh.info

I am also trying to remember the name of the alternative rehit to Sarbloh bibek the canada Singhs were using for water jal.
The description was accompanied by a photo, but I think it was on the old Tarna Dal site. It's a shame that there's been 2 good Nihang Singhs websites created during this century and both have gone down!

one was NihangSingh and another one was either TarnaDal or Harianvela, I cannot remember. They just dissappeared. There are still some remnants in waybackmachine...
 
They were both created after sarbloh.info
 
Actually I remembered, there was another one called tisarpanth

https://www.lulu.com/en/ca/shop/kamalpreet-singh-pardeshi/the-story-of-bhāī-manjh-srī-gurpartāp-sūraj-parkāsh-commentary-by-sant-hari-singh-randhāwe-wāle/paperback/product-8j95qg.html?page=1&pageSize=4
This publication is an edited English commentary detailing the life of one of the most important historical Sikhs of Srī Gurū Arjan Dev Jī. This is a story about the life of the great Sikh known as Bhāī Manjh who had to endure the most difficult of tests in order gain the most sanctified position in Sikhī, a place within the heart of the Gurū. Bhāī Manjh is considered the ferry who can assist in providing Sikhs to be taken across this worldly ocean. It is even stated within the Gurbilās Pātshāhī Chhevīn that Bhāī Manjh today is able to travel to all the realms and search for souls who may have spent some time with the Satsangat. Bhāī Manjh will travel to the underworlds and where he sees an individual who has come good karmā, he will show mercy upon them and lift them out of this domain to the heavenly realms. He will also test those Sikhs that ended up in the underworld on their recitation of the Srī Jap Jī Sāhib. If their utterance has no faults again, he will save them and be the ferry that takes souls across the worldly ocean. Blessed is the great Sikh who can save souls even to this day of those who have not reached salvation.
 
 

I know this is an old thread, but a translation of Sainapati's Sri Gursobha wasn't available when it was first posted, and the contents (of Sainapati's work) are spoken about within the thread, so I thought I'd share this translation by Kulwant Singh. This is purportedly a contemporary account of Guru ji's physical passing: 
 




 
 
 

I can't remember, but might have been sarbloh.info

I am also trying to remember the name of the alternative rehit to Sarbloh bibek the canada Singhs were using for water jal.
The description was accompanied by a photo, but I think it was on the old Tarna Dal site. It's a shame that there's been 2 good Nihang Singhs websites created during this century and both have gone down!

I don't know, but it's probably both. still coming up on the news this week that numbers are high!

he cut the Chaupai Sahib bani here, very bad manmatt...

1404256247_lRaagiBalwantSinghJil20_03.2022lHolaMahallalSr_low.mp4

case numbers are really high bro