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  1. This Sunday saw some 135,000 Sikhs vote for Khalistan. Out of a threatening environment, more and more Sikhs would be open to voting for Khalistan. In the world's largest democracy - india, fear of arrest and police harrassment keeps these spirits down.
  2. LOL, I do it because I know I can't ask you any serious questions. I tried that, and 5 times too, and just got the same nonsense....heehheehee
  3. spoken like a true sycophant of the zail singh category. Just like the british criminals who pushed india into the steam engine and transport revolution in india. the same british criminals who killed millions of indians yet proudly boast "we stopped sati...."
  4. Thats yesteryear. Let's talk about the here and now. Tincan Zail Singh fomenting unrest in Panjab to divide Akali votes to give his mentor indira a political advantage. The same zail singh who said he would sweep her office if she asked him to. And lets bring it up to today, shameless sikhs in delhi waving tirangas around for the same masters who were part of the widow colony.
  5. Your family are actual allied supporters of Zail Singh. Mine don't know and have no connection to Badal and his politics. Backwards pendu. It's people like you that ruined Panjab. Over a few drops of whisky no less.........
  6. Why face it alone? You haven't said anything new or of substance for years. The only thing you managed to say in the last week was incredible nonsense, none of which you have been able to back up even though requested several times. That should create a label for you. And these tincan turkans started up their own sphere of stupidity resulting in you.
  7. Parwinder Singh Jhota, a key ally of Amritpal Singh, has been freed from remand and gave this interview after his release. He was arrested for his anti-drug activities in Panjab. CM Bhagwant Mann has had many people arrested on false charges, one of which led to the incident at Ajnala police station. He has shown himself to be no different from the CM's before him in this regard. Yet he talks of prosperity for Panjab. Listen to around 6 mins, where he has said how the police are still up to their devious methods.
  8. Of course I am. But you're here to nullify people like me. You give insightful information to this forum. And when you are questioned on that information, you provide clear, concise and valuable information....lol Thick people are a risk to everyone and everything.....lol I can bring myself to type the word Khalistan. lol. listen to Zail Singh's pet, now he's crawling up H'stani ar5e Don't be a hypocrite .
  9. No, we need to bring back your old pal Zail Singh in, he'd know exactly what to do........he's done a top class job already as we can all see.
  10. People of Panjab still want freedom, but its people like to kill them or put them in jail. People in Panjab see their improvement through Khalistan, because let's face it, it could never be nowhere near as bad as living under indian rule. But people like you kdram are still too blind or ignorant to see this. india offers the Sikhs NOTHING. No. My problem is you. You made this post about Sikhs being threatened by Islamos in Pakistan and then linked Kanwar Grewal's song thanking the people of Pakistan for helping to ease Panjab's burden of flooding. This is YOUR mentality. It's sick. Sikhs don't get any easy ride ANYWHERE in the world. We get it tough in india, Pakistan, UK and USA etc. But rams like you want to say "forget everything thats happened because india went to the moon..." and to hide this traitorous trait of yours you come out with things like this post. If you had enough decency to just put the original statement of Jathedar Sahib, without needlessly adding the video of Grewal , there would have been nothing wrong with this topic. But your mind is just too full of garbage. Abusive words are not the only form of abuse. Abusive actions are also forms of abuse and you showed it with your opening post. Handful. Its pains me to see these Sikhs living like that in these countries. But the thousands and thousands who experienced 3rd degree torture, rape and murdered in false police encounters, don't register on your radar at all. You are quite happy to say let bygones be bygones for these thousands. Gandhi ke bandar? Us? Who cares why they opened the gates? The point is, they opened the gates, allowing huge tracts of Kasur to be flooded to ease the difficulties in Panjab. You are such an akirtghan. The biggest betrayer of the Khalistan movement was people like you. The biggest betrayers of the Panth are STILL people like you. But you certainly excused india for its abuses against Sikhs. And these traitors in that delhi video are also excusing india. genocide apologists. What power is there in killing people who want to live in their own country? And there it is. The same genocide apologist mindset. The same stupidity which carries on generation through generation with you rams. Who do you rely on for justice? That same tiranga that your people wave around like cheerleaders labels you as a hindu. Yet you cry if i address you as kdram. You and your tiranga fan boys can't even get recognition in india for what you purport to be. If you could even get that ONE piece of recognition, it would show that there is some hope in this tiranga. But 76 years have passed and you still are kdram. Have some shame . And the face of your bhappastan? waving tirangas around like your lives depended on it, whilst living next to a widows colony. Masked by your hindustan.
  11. Lol how do you know what I do or don't do to support the Khalistan movement? Now if we are talking about being lazy... what are you doing to fight the zulm in this video? Why are you cheerleading from the west? You make me puke sitting in the west and talking of zulm in Panjab's villages. You're a grade "A" hypocrite, so used to a comfy life in the west that you won't and can't do anything to protect weak people from zulm. I have respect for anyone who believes in fighting this zulm and are actually willing to fight and die for it, at least they are true to what they believe, but the people like you dal sitting on the sidelines, cheerleader dal types make me want to puke. But I get it though, seeing as "your" people sold out the Panth, if they ever had any love for it in the first place.
  12. Of course I'm trying to learn. I'm trying to learn which hindu jaats killed Sikhs in 1984 and then become hindus in the kisaan andolan. My brain is only too slow to learn beacuse you're too slow to share this vital information. Now I'm a fudhu for being slow to learn? What does that make you then? Someone who posts lies on this forum and then starts crying when asked to provide information? So whats holding you back? ....lol Number of times asked for jaat names....5 number of times the liar has posted "fudhu" as a response.....5 How long are you going to maintain this charade? Touched a nerve there did I ? Lolz. I am accusing you of being a hypocrite, not a sell-out. Look closer to home before you ever accuse anyone of anything. You're as bad as those you castigate but just the other side of the coin. Go on ! throw up another picture of a peasant doing bhangra! it will help you to avoid answering serious questions. Why? have you done the same? Cos you seem very intent on excusing their behaviour. Why are you so silent on your caste's wrongdoings lol?
  13. Woah !! How do you make such great posts?? Such "skill". I see your "skill" has still not been able to furnish any more information on your statement of Hindu jaats killing Sikhs in 1984 and then becoming Sikhs themselves during the Kisaan Andolan....lol Let's see your "skills" shine....lol
  14. Well, you wrote "Casteism, racism, selfishness will ruin anything" to which I added my experience, in agreeing with you.
  15. There is no group consensus on Khalistan. Jatts support it and oppose it. All other castes within the panth do the same. Every Sikh has to take a good, hard look at themselves, and their own behaviour. Sikhs need to do this on a micro and macro level. I feel Sikhs outside of Panjab in the diaspora are managing this better than those in Panjab, but Panjab is also catching up. You need to look at your own stupidity as well Dal. And look soon. You haven't changed from 10 years ago. Same turds come out in your posts, with some good posts here and there. But your image on this forum is of a stupid pendu. Maybe becasue you;ve been locked in with those others on these building sites. Rather than building character and mellowing with age, instead your stupidity and crassness is as evident now from your posts 10 years ago.....lol Take a look in the mirror and ask what you see how they have progressed. My history? My history towards others hasn't been horrendous. What has your history been like? Peaks and troughs. I thought you would have known this through your research on Sri Gur Panth Parkash? Who said they did? I haven't. But you, being you, said that "peasants had absolutely no problem with welcoming haryani hindu jaats into the quom. The same lot who had murdered and raped countless Sikhs around 84. But apnay peasants were all in a forgiving mood for that when it suited them........lol" And I have already asked you twice to list any of these people who you claim murdered Sikhs in Haryana and then became Sikhs themselves in the Kisaan Andolan. And true to your form, you haven't produced ONE name. Now who would want to be "locked in" with you?? I know the feeling with you on this forum. take a look in that mirror and ask why I have said that. Why? That's just your personal opinion. People have supported others rights to have a country, without being part of that group themselves. What an ignorant thing to say. Not every Sikh is going to be religious and not every Sikh is going to support a Sikh country. But everyone has a role to play in strengthening the panth and themselves. My people? My people are Sikhs who stand for justice from 1699 onwards. I don't thinb any of my people who have murdered other Sikhs for that flag and money. That's just like saying all Tarkhans should be held liable for Zail Singh and the role he played in exacerbating religious and political tension in Panjab on Indira Gandhi's orders. Zail Singh was the President of India, he did a lot for that flag and money. So we should start saying that your people dal, sowed the seeds for conflict in which thousands died in Operation Bluestar and thousands more died in Novermber genocide, and thousands more were killed by the state in false police encounters. Well, quite evidently with your stupidity on this forum, you're now "locked in" with me. We are both the sparks that don't shine the brightest on this forum aren't we? You were talking nonsense (daltalk) about how exposure would lead people away, yet you've come straight like a moth of ignorance to a flame of ignorance. How does that feel dal? For the record, the ONLY gurdwara which I've been asked to leave was a gurdwara belonging to dal's people. And the reason is, they asked me my surname and were expecting to hear a name that tied in with their group of people and I said my surname is singh. They said if you can't tell us your surname you cannot stay here and must leave. I left and was glad I did, because I would have been affected by prolonged exposure to dal and his people and could very easily have turned out to be like dal and his people.....lol
  16. You'll have to explain it....lol Like I said earlier, in plain english, furnish this forum with any names of Jaats who killed Sikhs in 1984, and then became Sikhs in the Kisaan Andolan. That sellouts and traitors exist in every colour, community, caste and country. What's your point? As far as I know, no. Absolutey. Those people views stars on their shoulders and stripes on their arms, as more valuable than the sons of their mother. You're not coming anywhere lol. Did you see those tiranga waving Sikhs (read Hindus) in that video? I don't they are of "my" jaat. Of course you can! I asked a very simple, cohorent question, in plain english, which you still haven't answered. Maybe then you should get them to help you answer the question then? Obviously they (and me) invited these Sikh-murdering hindu jaats into the Panth, so they can easily tell you why. I look forward to the answer. Good?? I'm amazing lol. And which govt listened to those complaints? The farmers resisted this new system, which would have made them more vulnerable. Well how did Rihanna get to know about it in the first place? Because of the thousands of farmers in Panjab and outside of Panjab, Sikh and non-Sikh, Jatt and non-Jatt alike protesting for months. Mighty rivers flow from drops of water Dal....lol Those mazhabis were overlooking any caste affiliations and working for the betterment of all farmers then, good on them.
  17. Because people's perceptions change. Simple as that. I'm comparing how Sikhs have always been loyal to this artificial creation called india, in the face of external threats. Says so much about you that I had to make it blindingly obvious. They are welcome to bring figures and factual accounts. No Sikh denies that Hindus were wrongly targeted and killed at some times, but facts and figures are always needed. The kind that Jaswant Singh Kalra brought. Many times. Maybe your eyes and ears were shut. Every indian political office has a photo of nehru or modi, who were responsible for deaths in their thousands. And BTW it is you people who still bow and treasure those photos. We won't put up a photo of this man you claim killed 329 people if you will take the photos of those men who killed thousands and thousands. Deal ? Conflict is one thing Mr Hindustani, state terrorism and oppression is another. Hold on Mr Rapistani. It was YOU or ME that started this thread of a Sikh thanking Pakistanis for their help with Panjab's floods, and compared it with Muslims threatening Sikhs in Pakistan? Is that peaceful debate? Then when you get labelled a kdRam you start crying? Typical dindu. I have attached ram to you name because you certainly don't deserve to use the name Singh. You and your kind of people are a disgrace to the Guru and Gurmat. And get jailed for nothing? Tortured? Why ? What did Jagtar Johal do that he has been in jail for 5 years now, whilst the indian state have yet to start his case? Jagtar is in jail and what have YOU done about an innocent man in the judicial system of your country? Typical hindu bhapa mentality. You have tried to tell these "not so highly educated villager" that they are hindus for the last 75 years? have they accepted that they are hindus? Or is it just you urban bhapa sikh (read hindu) types who have folded over and accepted it? Why are you and your kind acting as pawns for the indian state? All these hindu bhape crying over the tiranga yet none of are concerned about 1 sikh being in jail for 5 years? Is that the acts of "highly educated people" or traitors? Well if you're not afraid of it, then why make threads like this in the first place? Why has you hindustan been complaing to Australian and Canadian authorities over it? And why are you afraid of Hindus in india? You side with them. You love their tiranga more than your own Nishan Sahib, You accept that you are in essence a Hindu, so why are you afraid of Hindus? Wow. Give this guy a round of applause.
  18. It was not a majority of Sikhs who voted Congress. The Congress vote is strengthened through the urban hindu and rural SC votes. It always has been. Because Sikhs wanted to show that in the face of external threats, they did not the internal forces to be weak. Same as when Guru Gobind Singh Ji, himself an idol-breaker, asked the pahari rajas to form an alliance against the moghals, but the pahari rajas prefered to side with the moghals. Are you going to ask now why the hell did the Guru of the Sikhs do that? No and that was their main plank of failure. But it was a double sided sword. The Sikh leadership thought they could rely on the words on the next PM of India. Yes and the Sikhs found that out very quickly when Master Tara Singh was arrested for treason in 1949, and jailed. But in India even written things can be baseless. Like your PM Manmohan lying to the UN Human Rights Commission that no torture or extrajudicial killings were happening in Panjab. The same subject that Jaswant Singh Khalra talked about in his video. Today being the day in 1995 that he paid for with his life. And you making up excuses to shift the blame to Sikhs and absolve your country and govt of any wrong doing. And you don't feel no shame about it either. So the question is why the Hindus took that level of trust and betrayed it. They knew our weak position and our reliance on them and they purposely backstabbed the Sikhs. And you get upset and cry over Sikhs burning their flag. Is that all you have to say Mr genocide apologist? some 30,000 Sikhs killed in false encounters. Thousands more unaccounted for. Your state giving those killers stars on their shoulders and stripes on their arms? And you beaming with pride at your countrys flag? Why are you so invested in it then? Why is your country so fearful and vindictive over it? The referendum is as phoney as the flag you love. Pendu's ? It was these same people who bore the brunt of torture and state murder. They have the same rights to freedom as all human rights do. Why would you want to deny them those human rights? You sound just like a moghal would. Or a nazi. Who cares if the PM of Khalistan would be practising or not. The issue is not of whether they practice or not. The issue is of freedom. Something you need to do with your own mind. Free yourself from that tiranga. Darbara Singh claimed to be a practising Sikh, but under his rule, torture was rife in Panjab. Modi could claim to be a practicing Hindu, but I can't Lord Ram Chander or Lord Shiva supporting his actions against minorities. And there you go. Your blindness and hatred means you see all Khalistanis as hot-headed. Says so much about you. You're no different from those snakes in delhi really. And whats wrong with that? Well AAP was given a chance in Panjab and they started well, but faltered very quickly. And thats why Khalistan Party won the Sangrur elections.
  19. Maan has been CM for a year and half now. It's very apparent he is no different from the previous CMs in terms of running or improving a state, and reducing or removing corruption. He is also not no different from previous CMs when it comes to basic human rights.
  20. kdram80 - do you know what happened today in Sikh history? It was this day in 1995 that Jaswant Singh Khalra was abducted and disappeared because of your beloved india. You talk about "mercilessly slaughtered Sikhs in 1947" but strangely never talk about mercilessly slaughtered Sikhs in the 1980s/90s. Why ? Watch this video to see the actions of your beloved india if you have the courage to do so.
  21. Well...the thing is mr hindustani...Sikhs dreamt of brotherhood with India and its Hindu majority. And look how that turned out. You aren't even a Sikh in India. You're a hindu. And you were labelled a HIndu in 1949 when the constitution was written. But before you were labelled a Hindu, when you still had your identity as a Sikh, you were labelled a "Juraim Pesha" - a criminal. So are you one or the other? Or both? The Muslims offered, promised and guaranteed the Sikhs nothing. The Hindu led Indian government offered, promised and guaranteed everything to the Sikhs and yet delivered nothing. So who is more trustworthy? The snake that did and said nothing, or the snake that did and then bit you? Why do you feel the need to keep running to muslim conduct during 1947 as some kind of deflection for what the indian govt has done since 1947? I don't agree with flag burning myself. I think we should be more classier and smarter than that. Even though your flag, the flag that you are so proud of, has caused untold misery to the Sikhs, it should still be respected. But PEOPLE like you, can never be respected. Your whole talk, your demeanour is hindutva. Your loyalty is to the savage tiranga rather than the Nishan Sahib. You want Khalistani Sikhs to think about Sikhs living in the rest of India. Since when has that concerned you? You have a widows colony in your midst. You don't live far from a historical Gurdwara that is now a Mandir because of 1984, yet you want US to think about Sikhs living in the rest of India?
  22. Rough day eh Dal? ......lol. Sounds like you have been trying really hard with those rural desis today. It's called calling a spade a spade......lol Yes I asked "Well obviously you know more than us on this subject. Let's hear the names of those jaats who murdered and raped countless Sikhs around 84 who then became Sikhs in 2020/21...." but you didn't answer. Was the above repeat of your same question, just to buy yourself some time? I'm patient. Let's hear those names when you have it. Ok, if it makes you happy....my caste is more important to me than Sikh dharam ever has been....lol NOW? I've always been here. And yes, I am really good at Black Ops lol. Now you have been on the ball so to speak for the last few years, it won't be hard for you to furnish this forum with the names of "The same lot who had murdered and raped countless Sikhs around 84. "
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