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  1. .....I'm baaaack!!!!! look forward to engaging with everyone again :)

    1. amardeep


      Welcome back Singh :)

    2. drawrof


      Let's start a discussion :)

  2. I don't know much about him, please educate us on what he has spoken out against?
  3. Nij ghar, is that space within where one finds the palace of parmatma....here is my flawed translation of this: ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ ਪੂਰਬੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ रागु गउड़ी पूरबी महला ५ ॥ Rāg ga▫oṛī pūrbī mėhlā 5. Raag Gauree Poorbee, Fifth Mehl: ਕਰਉ ਬੇਨੰਤੀ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਮੇਰੇ ਮੀਤਾ ਸੰਤ ਟਹਲ ਕੀ ਬੇਲਾ ॥ करउ बेनंती सुणहु मेरे मीता संत टहल की बेला ॥ Kara▫o benanṯī suṇhu mere mīṯā sanṯ tahal kī belā. Listen, my friends, I beg of you: now is the time to serve the Saints! Drawrof: do a heartfelt request my dear friends, now is the time to engaging in/serving the pea
  4. Gurfateh ji, I translated but took a lot of liberties. Please point out areas which you feel can make this more truthful or anything I may clear up and let's work on this together.. Vivhaaraik satta- the existence through which the world functions. Where the creative, sustaining and destructive energies we commonly refer to as brahma, Vishnu etc control the creation-sustenance-destruction process that everyone and everything is bound to. Parmarthak satta- one life force (eyk parmesar) is the substratum to which nothing is external. So everything is part of that one (why we don’t see t
  5. knowledge is good if understood, felt and applied. What is everyone's thoughts?
  6. Premi, Sorry just came back on this forum today. I shall look into this and find the quote. I haven't gone back to trace what I was responding to, but on seeing your questioning...I'd agree..nothing happened.
  7. Prem Sumarag Granth/param sumarag granth which is believed have been written in 1701 talks of amrit sanchaar for women.
  8. The claim of the hindu-sikh sanatan thing was the biggest issue they had from what I saw. What about sampuran singh nihangs claim of being the same? I feel, from what I see, that people like holding onto titles and don't scratch below the surface to see what is going on and how/why things have evolved.
  9. I came across a reference, almost a decade ago now, of how the first charanpahul occured with bhai lehna during gurugaddi when bhai lehna ji became guru angad...the source was ishar singh nara. Any comments? can anyone corroborate.
  10. A path which is meant to be experienced and causes for a ceaseless battle against the mind, through engaging the mind and heart...continously can not 'adequately' be "branded" as A or B.... This branding takes away the current agency and throws the engagement into a mode that is suspended in time..I agree there is a shared heritage but people are constantly looking for secrets within gurbani because their own mind 'resists' facing itself. What if terms such as saadh, sant, and especially 'naam' are not just simple signifiers allowing one to engage with gurbani to open up experience as opposed
  11. Firstly, I'd like to apologize to Dalsinghfor not starting the new topic. It was the canada day long weekend here and I was riddled with alot of events. I would like to add in my 2 cents though. I read in a book by gyani ishar singh nara, that the first charanamrit ceremony occured when bhai lehna became guru angad sahib. This poses the question as to whether guru nanak had actually been giving gyan as opposed to setting up dharamsals. We read sidh gosht, but is there ever a mention of those naths or the bairagi's for whom japji sahib was created/explained as being gursikhs? Could it be tha
  12. So are you suggesting that because someone is a relative of the Guru they are infallible? Thinking like this comes and goes. Look at how (according to old manuscripts) people used to think Guru Nanak Dev ji was a reincarnation of Raja Janak (read Dabistan), how many Sikhs think that now? DalSingh, I have read that the visit that was made to the nanakpanthi dera in dabistan-i-mazhab was actually a visit to a 'mina' dharamsal and that would make sense as prithi chand was the head administrator in guru ram das ji's darbar and had control over darbar sahib at that time...which would have sti
  13. I tried logging into the site but I can't from work. We have the goindval pothi's and the har sahai pothi which were written at the time of the guru's. We also have birs with the guru's signature in the british library and other places around north america. their god is pure...but then if evil isn't god's creation...is evil a parallel creation created by another diety? if so, does their god have a nemesis? We believe in reincarnation and the cycle ends with knowing that god exists within us and that we are god. So heaven and hell are mental states at best. have they any proof apart from fai
  14. I'm voting for the candidate this time around. The only problem is that each candidate will take the side of their party leader. Personally, an NDP like social concscience with conservative fiscal policy would be ideal for me. I'm not big on centralized governments, but the NDP policies will make us stronger.
  15. Hello, I'll make my response short... 1) Be careful of the spiritual masters you approach. A friend of mine who became a muslim felt that there was an innate spirituality lacking and he became sufi. Within 4-5 years he became very strict and was expected to focus on certain hadiths etc etc. He realised that it was very cult-like and in talking to others who were part of different orders....the trends were very much the same. It is akin to our 'dodgy' baba syndrome. Now, what he did make very clear to me was. Some...NOT ALL...Some Sufi path's don't focus on hadith's, but many do....and it
  16. WTR Regards to Shaheediyan's comment about British Columbia, When a person looks at the facts in British Columbia, The punjabi commmunity does not really run anything. The problems occur at the street level. The control is in the hands of the vietnamese, Triad, and Hell's angels groups. You have the odd person trafficking here and there. Pimping is another area where there is some involvement, but nothing to the extent of what we are lead to believe. The number of drug related deaths is unproportionately high and the media does tend to sensationalise things a bit. The youth community an
  17. I believe people will enjoy life more if they have less pakoray and more kheer. Kheer also comes in gurbani too! (pakoray doesn't in case I want to make my point stronger).
  18. Hi, I believe in Shraad....except that I practice it semi-regularly. I go to the gurdwara and eat langar, especially kheer. I figure that I was dead at some point, or I might be soon....so why not eat alot more now....and let's say the fat bhai with the darkish complexion and fuzzy beard was my daughter in a previous life...that guru sahib was 'dyal' enough to let us both be re-born into a gursikh household and we can balance out the karma....but I'm a paapi, because I lack faith and have an extra helping of kheer (just in case I'm hungry), but then I justify it by thinking that I am doing
  19. he called me akhandi-pakhandi

  20. I don't...but then I'm different, and I like peanut butter as well.....and taking walks in the evening...on rainy days.
  21. New years the posting in the first, time to seeing the good eloquence paaji of the good questionings. So wonderings the what is the gogidalsinghpaljit ji wanting to know womens and the turbans about? why the sister penjis in the ones who wear the dastars being in the questionings about the choicings they maketh thus?
  22. According to mahan kosh and gurmat martand chatka by a gun is considered chatka.... It isn`t contrived or anything...and isn`t obscure.
  23. I also forgot to mention that a professor I had met in India has seen Baba Gyana Singh in his youth as baba gyana singh spent his time travelling (either by foot or bus....no audi')looking at different pothi's and comparing the text. This prof. mentioned how baba gyana singh was such a sevak that he wouldn't take money for teaching the vidiya and in the mid 50's he was being offered 20 rupees a day. Many of our current gatka ustads definitely learnt pentray from him, but as we all know, economic circumstances/being uprooted from eastern punjab/adapting to the new way in the new India left litt
  24. So let me share my own personal story here, I was told that a camp for learning the 'true' shastarvidiya was going to be conducted in 2005/2006 (summer time). I was told there was a baba 'gian'/'giana' singh who was going to teach. He was supposedly 96 the first time his name was brought forth, then he was 85 the second time. He apparently carried around a big axe and did das granthi as part of his nitnem and was very chardikallah. I went through a few personal issues and I ended up in India later that year. I asked around about gian singh/giana singh. On that trip, I met a friend of
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