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Hi, I've been wondering if there is any importance of Mount Kailash (Kailāśā Parvata) in Sikhi? Is there any mention of it in Gurbani? Historically its considered the source of the Sutlej, Indus, Ganges aswell as other rivers. Maybe this question is also asking if there is any importance of rivers, like the Indus and Ganges for Sikhs? Is there any importance of ishnaan in them waters? Some Hindus consider the mountain the home of god and more specifically Shiv Ji. I don't know if they mean Shiv Ji in terms of avtara or literally, but if it was literal, wouldn't that maybe go against a Sikh definition of Shiva. As far as I know Shiva is referred to in Gurbani as a word for God and a descriptive word for the destructive element of the non-dual God, aswell as in reference to a avtara of Shiva.

Not sure if this is quite what you want, but here are some links Ten bodies Yoga Set - Part 1 - http://kundalini-matashakti.com/images/Ten%20Bodies%20p1.gif Part 2 - http://kundalini-matashakti.com/images/Ten-Bodies-p2.gif Give it a go Meditation Timer - http://www.poodwaddle.com/meditation.htm Its easy to quit doing simran alittle early but if you use one of these, you want to do it the full time. You can have music to it or in silence. Would be good if someone could make one of these for Mool mantra and Gur mantra aswell as others.

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Thanks for the reply, yours. I found that very insightful

Hello Fruity. Nice name ^^ I dont think its up to us if we can judge if we have progressed spiritually. I haven't got the gian to judge, where I am. Only Waheguru truly knows that. I think all I know for sure, spiritual progression is not as linear as saying, learn gurmukhi and you have progressed. Even by me saying the word "progressed" makes it look like, spirituallity is linear. But its not. A Gursikh friend told me about a discussion he had with a English guy in a bar. The guy had a cigarette in one hand and a pint of bitter in the other. But the stuff he was talking about was as if he had samadhi. One explanation can be that he did alot of bhagati in a previous incarnation. But I cant judge. In my life, I was lucky enough to find Gurbani. I can't read gurmukhi and read my bani's in romanised text. One thing I have found is that, the meaning is slow seaping through. Before it used to feel totally alien, but now somehow, its starting to make sense. Even though I do not understand most of it, I recieve something extremely fulfilling by reciting Gurbani. I am not quite sure what it is. But it is something. One explanation I have heard is that there is something in the makeup of the sound current of Gurbani. Traditional wisdom suggests maybe it has a affect on the throat chakra, but I think its alot more than that. In my opinion, learning Gurmukhi can only be a very good thing, but I dont think "spiritual development" is constrained to it. Is understanding Gurbani the important thing? Or is how we live our lifes according to that understanding the most important thing?

I think its important to pray for people in need. Just because its karam doesn't mean we should be apathetic to the pain of others. It may be in there karam, that you did ardas for him/her. Prays are difficult to measure. I would say anyones pray can be as powerfull as a brahm giani's, if not more, if it is said from the truth within us. We can not force that truth, we can just let Waheguru judged it. I think the only true ardas I have ever given is to be in love with Wahegurus lotus feet and for Gurbani to never leave me (because of my blindness/laziness). I personally don't think if you pray for those in need, negative energies turn on you. But even if it did, and I got ill or something, I would still do ardas for those in need. Selflessness, and helping those in need, is infinately more important than what happens to us in this life. I think its more important to uplift others, than to gain mukti itself.

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