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Ishraqi

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  1. In which parva? Also...what does it matter if the text itself was composed after the events it is supposed to have "predicted"? The Bhavishyottarapurana is a much latter addition to the original Bhavishyapurana which is a Shaiva purana that also contains doctrinal and liturgical texts including sectiosn about Saura worship. The text you're referring is very recent and was added as an appendinx to the original purana and is considered by serious Indologists to be a forgery. In clear: it doesn't prove anything. It's not the first text of the kind. The Mahanirvana Tantra has whole sections that cleary show British influence. But I am not surprised to that text being used to confirm some spurious prophecies. With a bit of reasoning people should find it a bit strange that: 1. The Bhavishyottarapurana talks of avataras whereas Shaiva texts don't care about avatarvad because it's rejected in Shaivism. 2. Strangely enough the predictions all have something to do with Bengal...they "predict" the coming of Chaitanya and his goswamis, the British Raj, Queen Victoria and even Calcutta...Why do the predictions end there? Why isn't there a mention of Hitler, the Holocaust, WWI and WWII...
  2. The Bhavishyapurana is known to be a notorious fraud amongs Indological scholars. Read Bhatt, M. and Remy, J. (1982). Le Kalki Purana, translated from Sanskrit, followed by a study by A. Preau, preface by J. Varenne. Milano: Arche. Especially the preface by Jean Varenne who used to teach Sanskrit at Aix-en-Provence University and was among the best Sanskritists in Europe. From a linguistic point of view there are simply too many borowings for this to be an old Sanskrit text. The text "predicts" the rule of Akbar and the East India Company...Strangely enough not a single acharay of the classical period ever mentions that work or engages with the doctrines expounded in them. It is at best a masterpiece of manipulation for the Indian masses. To see it being quoted by a Taksali master (the same one who says that Muhammad created a panth of eunuchs and stole his revelation from a sadhu) speaks volumes about the "scholarship" of taksal. But then again if a taksali scholar says that the colour of milk is black we're supposed to believe him because he's a sriman sant mahapurush etc of taksal.
  3. The Bhavishiya purana has no mention of Nanak.But then again for a text that was composed after Islam came to India I wouldn't be surprised that some "prophecies" were added...
  4. There is no mention of any Nanak in the Bhavishya Purana. It's one of these very late puranas in which everyone wishes to see whoever they want to see in it. What is probable is that Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwale interpreted Kalki avatar to be Guru Nanak as does Tara Singh Narotam in his chapter on avtarvad in his Gurmat Nirnay Sagar.
  5. On the subject of Bhai Maharaj Singh you can read: Ahluwalia, M.L.1972.Sant Nihal Singh alias Bhai Maharaj Singh, Patiala: Punjabi University. and Mehar Singh, Giani.n.d. Nau Ratan, Ludhiana: Lahore Book Shop. pages:123 to 163. They shouldn't be too difficult to find.
  6. The reference to Guru Angad being Janak in a past incarnation is found in the Bhattan de Svayye: (section in praise of the second Mehl) The same reference is made about Guru Arjan in the section in praise of the fifth Mehl: The term "historical reference" used by N3O is inappropriate, first of all because Janaka is not mentionned in historiographical accounts but in the epic poem Ramayana by Valmiki, secondly because the reference in this case is a textual one not a historical one.
  7. Mirpuris are a total disgrace.
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