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ਏਕ ਸਿਵ ਭਏ ਏਕ ਗਏ ਏਕ ਫੇਰ ਭਏ ਰਾਮਚੰਦ੍ਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਕੇ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਭੀ ਅਨੇਕ ਹੈਂ ॥ एक सिव भए एक गए एक फेर भए रामचंद्र क्रिसन के अवतार भी अनेक हैं ॥ There was one Shiva, who passed away and another one came into being; there are many incarnations of Ramchandra and Krishna. ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਅਰੁ ਬਿਸਨ ਕੇਤੇ ਬੇਦ ਔ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕੇਤੇ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਮੂਹਨ ਕੈ ਹੁਇ ਹੁਇ ਬਿਤਏ ਹੈਂ ॥ ब्रहमा अरु बिसन केते बेद औ पुरान केते सिम्रिति समूहन कै हुइ हुइ बितए हैं ॥ There are many Brahmas and Vishnus, there are many Vedas and Puranas, there have been the authors of all the Smritis, who created their works and passed away. ਮੋਨਦੀ ਮਦਾਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਅਸੁਨੀ ਕੁਮਾਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਅੰਸਾ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਕਾਲ ਬਸ ਭਏ ਹੈਂ ॥ मोनदी मदार केते असुनी कुमार केते अंसा अवतार केते काल बस भए हैं ॥ Many religious leaders, many chieftains of clans, many Ashwani Kumars and many degrees of incarnations, they had all been subject to death. ਪੀਰ ਔ ਪਿਕਾਂਬਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਗਨੇ ਨ ਪਰਤ ਏਤੇ ਭੂਮ ਹੀ ਤੇ ਹੁਇ ਕੈ ਫੇਰਿ ਭੂਮਿ ਹੀ ਮਿਲਏ ਹੈਂ ॥੭॥੭੭॥ पीर औ पिकांबर केते गने न परत एते भूम ही ते हुइ कै फेरि भूमि ही मिलए हैं ॥७॥७७॥ Many Muslim preceptors (Pirs) and Prophets, who cannot be count ed, they were born out of the earth, ultimately merged in the earth. 7.77. http://www.sridasam....lish=t&id=64774 guru prmysru eyku hY sB mih rihAw smwie ] gur paramaesar eaek hai sabh mehi rehiaa samaae || The Guru and the Transcendent Lord are one and the same, pervading and permeating amongst all. ang 53 gur pwrbRhm eykY hI jwny ]2] gur paarabreham eaekai hee jaanae ||2|| one sees the Guru and the Supreme Lord God as one and the same. ||2|| ang 887

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I think the act of not saying anything shows more than saying something on how much anyone respects nidar's cronies. Nidar tried to make a fool of Kalyug with his weak and not well thought out response. Not to add the feeble minded insults he included, shows he had no merit in the first place. Also the Jathedar of Sri Hazur Sahib can be seen in a video, directly telling Nidar that he has made a fatal mistake and nidar in a weak voice, saying hun ji. Only an ugly and no merit person would deny what happened to him on video tape.

Yawn....boring someboyd was not taught reasoning in elementary school.

Just to comment on one section of the response to Kalyug Singh, the nidar crew are very confused. They state the following: There understanding of Bhai Gurdas ji vaar is wrong. IF we were to accept their interpretation of the vaar, then Bhai Gurdas ji would have contradicted himself because he says the following in a different vaars: vwihgurU gurU mMqR hY jp haumYN KoeI] vaahiguroo guroo ma(n)thr hai jap houmai(n) khoee|| His Guru-manta is Vahiguru, whose recitation erases egotism. siqgur purK dieAwl hoie vwihgurU scu mMqR suxwXw] sathigur purakh dhaeiaal hoe vaahiguroo sach ma(n)thr sunaayaa|| Becoming kind, the Guru recites true mantra Vaheguru for him. Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj gave the Gurmantar to the Sikhs of Vaheguru. And here is more from a different source from Sri Sarbloh Granth that states against nidar's thinking and doesn't make Bhai Gurdas ji Vaar fall backwards on itself, which nidar does. Sahib Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji states in the ‘Sarab Loh Granth’ that this mantar ‘Waheguru’ is given to the Khalsa by Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, so that the Sikhs of the Guru can contemplate upon this true mantar and merge into the Timeless Being. The text of this instruction is as follows:- swr mMqR cwroN kw cwr ] vwihgurU mMqR inrDwr ] klp klp pRB AKCr khI ] sRI gur nwnk jwpXo shI ] inj Awqm pRmwqm drsXo ] cwr klp mih mMqR srsXo ] sw mMqR pRB Kwlsh dInw ] vwihgurU pd pwvn kInw ] Saar Mantar Chaaro ka Chaar Waheguru Mantar nirdhaar Kalp kalp prabh akchar kehee Sri gur nanak japeoo sehee Nijh atam prmatam dhrseeo Char kalp meh mantar sarsheoo Saa mantar prabh khalse dheena Waheguru padh pavan keena The four fold divisions (within the Hindu Dharma) have four separate mantaras. (Of them all the) mantar Waheguru is supreme. With great thought and imagination the Primal Being uttered word. Sri Guru Nanak (got people to) contemplated upon this true (mantar). (With it) one can experience the presence of the Primal Being within the soul. It is the summation of the four separate mantar. This mantar, the Primal Being bestowed upon the Khalsa. The word ‘Waheguru’ was thus sanctified. Sri Sarbloh Granth Sahib is telling us that Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj contemplated on Vaheguru and Bhai Gurdas ji Vaars are saying the same. The vaar the nidar crew present is much deeper, but for his own selfish reason's, he refuses to recognize this and his cronies...well I'll won't comment on them....lol

That sexually fustrated comment was very shameful of you. But then again you have a pic of Niddar up....lol...it doesn't surprise me after seeing who you idolize.

He was hoping no one would pick up on it and people will just let it slide.

I already responded to your top part. YOu find SS post worrying.....really big guy. What about SPN? Wait kdsingh80 can't mention spn in their true light or at all on other forums because then other members can show people what they are truly about. The one site (SPN) that is out against Gurmat, kdsingh80 will not call sad. Does that really make sense. I'm not going to continue this further with you. If you want others to speak politely, then first learn how to respect others. Your at least in your 30s i guess. I don't think you need to be told this, but I will tell you just in case you don't know this very simple lesson in life. Respect is earned. I hope in the future you keep your sad and worrying comments to yourself. Thank you, Mr. SPN.

You are one snake. You have been out against Sikhsangat for a long time. LIke in this thread, yelling to Kalyug to start posting here instead of Sikhsangat about this topic. Did your bosses at SPN tell you to do all of this? Seriously get a life and stop attacking Sikhsangat. There are many genuine members there. Unlike SPN your boss, where all they do is insult Gurmat and Gursikhs. You and your bosses need to stop foaming at the mouth.

If you want to talk about attacks, first look at your own hand. How many times has Sikhi been attacked and is still attacked where you are most active, SPN. Fools run that site and SS has to deal with some fools that come from SPN for self interest on to SS. If there is one or two posters that keep yelling the same thing, that don't mean all believe in that. But on SPN all the so called elite idoits agree dishing out an athiest form of Sikhi. Where is your halirious post about SPN and it's posters. But you don't hestitate to attack SS.

When has posters labeled every poster as RSS agent? This topic of Daljit Singh Nirmala came up now and the posters are labeling him as RSS because hes bowing down to a woman that is a RSS member. Then you have that fool clarity constantly going on about stuff. If anything your here to throw mud at SS. It's halirious how you lurk in the corners.

This is the kind of behavoir that got you caught for harassement on Sikhsangat. No joke this guy was caught for harassment. And then he was also caught on Sikhsangat for disrespecting Guru Sahib. The mods had no choice but to delete this creepers comment. Stop creepering people and get off the net. Again im not making jokes here. It's all true.

At the end you can take the pseudo scholar dalsingh 101 take on this or take Sant Baba Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa. So dalsingh 101 when are going to harass another person on Sikhsangat and then again get put under moderation.

Then what about the time when Maharaj disrespected a grave. If everything Maharaj does is a Hukam then there is nothing wrong with disrespecting a grave. But Maharaj was testing his Singhs to see if they stick to Gurbani and speak up. When Maharaj pointed his feet to the Kaaba was that a Hukam? Bhai Mani Singh ji was in the crowd forsure. Satguru sent out the call to get the sangat all together on 1699. Bhai Mani Singh ji would be there, along with other Gursikhs. Also there is two sides to Hukams and test are one sided where the Sikhs have to complete. Hukams are two sided because Maharaj completes them in form and the Sikhs follow them.

Actually you have a faulty logic by saying it's a test (1699). If it was a test then your saying Bhai Mani Singh ji failed not me cuz i don't say it was a test. What I said is that it is a Hukam of Maharaj. Test and Hukams are two different things. Maharaj used both and we can't say what is for one is for the other.