jaikaara

But not at the age of 11...anyone in physical body who marries who engage in physical relationship with their partners that is obvious. That goes for our Gurus too..how else would they have children ?

Sri Krishan ji was a child when in Brindavan, he had left the place at the age of 11 . Do you expect a child to do bhog with the gopis at that age ? All these so called descriptions are nothing but whims of poets who made the language flowery with erotica.

biraadar ..good you reminded me , i called up and inquired, they havent heard of someone doing Sampat Paath of SGDGS ji Maharaaj.

I am not an expert on this subject however what i feel veera is if you do abhyas of the bani you will understand the feeling from inside. I have spoken to Nihang singhs who do nariyal chatka during the yudh description when the dait are slayed by Chandi and on completion too. Some offer saheedi deg in the beginning when the ardas is to be done. I myself havent been too attached to 'offerings' and rituals when i am doing the paath alone. As you do abhyas you could get the feeling inside regarding what you would want to do is. I do not see anything on a lesser 'level' if i am not doing certain things . Also i dont come from a family which has been too religious nor have the opportunity of being present in the paath with the Puratan mat singhs . I used to visit Hazur sahib on Dussehra and witnessed the bhog ceremony of the Dasam paath done during Navraate in individual houses there.

Thank for sharing the mystic sounds..thanks a lot bhha ji .

Very true...Sikhi for them is khanda tattoos on their arms ..and Sant Bhindranwale stickers on their cars and messages on fb calling out for Sant ji's return . If that would really happen Sant ji would spank their asses red for sure.

So what does that do to them ?

Organized religion and its problems, now since the evangelists are working with full force the VHP will also get active . One thing i believe as a sehajdhari is i should respect the fact that someone is more stronger to me with their belief and has adopted a sampooran roop...how do we track Sehajdharis..i personally barely go to the Gurdwara and even if i do i would go at odd times afternoon or early evening when this is no Diwan..not that i go anywhere else but just that i started getting the feeling that solitude and silence gives me more peace..i was asked to get prepared for voting by submitting my pic with a pagg ..which then they could claim that i was a patit ..i didnt want to do that since it was lying at the Gurughar ..if i am lying there where else will i speak the truth ..and whom would i vote for ? Will that ensure there are no fights during their meetings and that the funds would be used for sewa for the needy? When i myself am not perfect how can i point a finger at someone else ? I keep away from all this mess ...i dont need to vote ..Waheguru chooses whats best for mankind.

This is all a political agenda , most of those involved are said to be of the AKJ. Geelani has been siding with them and they will give a bad name to the community. If they can side with people who raped murdered and threatened , who did what Aurangzeb did i am not willing to call them Sikhs.

Dissolve SGPC too...lolz...i know they dont function as per expectations but atleast they are doing something . Some people talk of transferring power to Nihang Jathebandis which i am not sure how well do they function are there any social service activities like schools or hospitals run by them ?

Haan ji , we have some people in India who did similar things and rescue girls. In fact all of these if they come together it would be a strong global network.

Lolzzzz...wondering how did that effect your stomach

due to gases :) ?

I admire your fervor ..if you are actually doing something it is really good.The best sewa since very few get into this and the way the community looks down on such activism i have respect for such people. If you need anything from India let us know.

giving speech arousing Sikhs ! Habbibi... :) ..besides writing speeches anything else ? by the way you shouldnt give 'arousing' speeches..that will cause another sex scandal if someone is really 'aroused' Inciting is fine :)

I personally feel the idea was to feel dedicated to their weapons and to see the Bhagouti Shakti purely in the form of the Sword. Remember, Maharaj created Kshatriyas out of laymen who had never fought. The Rajputs have worshipped Bhagouti in the form of Shastars since ages however when one does paath of Shastar Naam Maala , he/she does the bhagti of the Shastars . The pyaar for the Shastars increases.

He is a taksali now , he wa given a pharla however due to reasons known to him he moved away

Bro , people like me atleast are at a crawling stage...gradually the transition may happen. If you read the Akaal Ustat bani of Guru you would realize that a number of rituals we do at the Guru Ghar will also appear meaningless however we need to understand that the stage is of a advanced level. The Tuhi Tuhi Tuhi...when uttered Maharaj was in Maha Samadhi . I personally feel when we say something is not necessary we think according to our own preferences. We are not considering the others who perhaps are not thinking at that level and it does not mean they are some mediocre creatures. The gyaan of the Sikhi in the Sukhmani sahib though simplified is not easily digested by common man , even after doing the bani how many of them go above rituals ? Try understanding one thing ..the Gurus explained the futility of the rituals however there is a different level . The way Islam condemns and criticizes is different. Guru sahibs with utmost pyaar explain like Eh karke ki hoya ? Let us look at individual assessment and achieve the awastha rather go after others is what i feel.

There is no end to such reasoning and cross questioning against any abhyas done. Tomorrow the very purpose of keeping kes can be questioned . So i personally feel if someone is doing abhyas with x number of paaths or simran there is nothing wrong with it . Everything and anything that does not go accroding to our will we blame the brahmans and brahman vaad ..i dont know how much of Sikhi should we consider that.

Jaatts are a traditional votebank of the congress and Lok Dal , all this mess is nothing but just another situation raked up to create unrest .

Brother they are all attached to Hazoor Sahib , Nanded and its not they dont have clue . After marriage they come to Hazoor sahib to do mathha tek.

Nidar Singh ji :)

True , but they sticll were hanging on to the Puratan Maryada so thought they might be different. Looking at the numbers of their sympathizers they are capable enough to do much better.

Makes sense , i had hopes from Dal Panth too..but looking at the infighting in the various factions i have lost trust.

Says contains caffeine , its upto you if you want that in your blood.