mahanpaapi

Dhan Guru Nanak Tuhi Nirankaar

wonderfully refreshing das ji, regards,

respected paapiman ji, regardless of what is truth or not, what right or not, i humbly suggest please try not carry and avoidable unnecessary negative karmic burden forward. BhagatSinghji, Sukritkaur ji, das ji and others are your well-wishers.

i will try to locate it, may be admn can help to recover it. thanks

exactly, that one, do you have more information on that?

not that one, there is kata in which Laxmi and Karam tested their powers and eventually Karam succeeded. i cannot find link to that. thanks so much,

Sangat Ji, Does anyone has link, text, audio video etc to a katha on debate between Laxmi and Karam, in which both were claiming superiority. But Karam eventually won by proving its power over Laxmi. Thanks so much,

my humble submission is that there should not be any discussion on the authenticity Sri Dasam Granth on this site unless it is of view that is not or disputed, therefore need to be settled here, a remote possibility. from the perspective of those who believe that it is authentic and Bani of Dhan Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj, it is question of devotion not discussion, and devotion is at very high pedestal than freedom of whatever. mow the if sa believes that it is Maharaji's Bani (regardeess of the fact if it is nor), then questioning and bringing in doubts about Sri Dasam Granth, will create more doubts for ordinary folks. the discussion can happen on its relevance in moderns society and how it was used by puritan sikhs. for me, is unequivocally settled not because i have "historical evidence" but because those all Dargahi Mahapuraksh (including original Five Beloved) and those blessed by them have never rejected anything related to Sri Dasam Granth, and i urge those who believe in it please not do use improper method and language against those who not approve it. finally it is slippery slope, tomorrow someone will want to discuss the same issues regarding Sri Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj, then even if there is Sachkhand so on and so forth.

then that will their own inner calm not eternal and universal calm, as many of us are calm with relative things and relative times.

thanks Ragmala, you are absolutely correct in this approach, the eternal truth can only be verified by those who are beyond intellect-based scholarly evidential approach and are merged in The ONLY ONE, as you referred to Hazur Baba Nand Singh Ji Maharaj. we have to accept that any large of amount of intellect we may have, we still operate within the realm of Kalyug will interpret things within that realm only, once we accept our reality that inner calm will start to come in as most doubts, questions, etc will wither away.

there is a fundamental difference between knowing through intellect (which people like me tend to know a lot through readings, listening and discussions but is devoid of any experience, and furthermore rely on that to express my religiosity), and believing (which people like me tend to equate with knowing albeit falsely, and it means one has experienced the shabad one way or other, jaap or grace), for example, let us take a shabad, ".... Taati vao na lagai, tati vao na lagai jin Parbrahm sharanai, Chaugird hamare Ram ka, chaugird hamare Ram kaDukh lage na bhai,...," now we all know what it means intellectually and not only that we tell others whenever they have any problem to do that, however, only a naam abhiyasi who have done jaap of this shabad, will actually know and believe it through spiritual experience.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kashif-n-chaudhry/did-prophet-muhammad-warn_b_7702064.html

very true ji, and simran of Waheguru gurmantar erase our sins of all four yugs as most of us have been around since then. thanks

"Sargun nirgun nirankar sun smadhi aapaapan kiya nanaka ape hi phr jaap"

thanks all, answer basically remains the, one's inner spiritual avastha and comprehension of Reality determine his/her out-worldly outlook, based on gnosis not intellectual understanding (maya). still i appreciate everybody's view, here is nothing right or wrong, it is question of how far, high, and deep one takes devotion and love for Akaal Purakh and his numerous relative forms.