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  1. Was not Guru Teg Bahadhur well into his 40's before Guru Gobind Singh ji was conceived? Yes I understand your point that Sikhism doesn't reject celibacy....maybe I should have been clearer..........but Guru Nanak Dev ji has prescribed the life of a householder for Sikhs. It is a life where we live and face up to everyday things....not withdraw from them. Its a question of whether you live inspite or despite of things........I know which path I am choosing....... The premise of this post is that somehow celibacy will give you a shortcut to spirituality.....Guruji says thats not true......
  2. I think Vijaydeep Singh has stated whatt I would say. Note the Tukh I posted....they were so perceptive then that they knew plants were living creature....we can be reincarnated as plants....according to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji it describes one life as a rock, the next as an aborted baby in the womb and then a plant and then a human. There is no particular order for incarnation, but Guruji says we are blessed when we reach human form. The Guru's knew plants breathed, reproduced, had blood (sap), had a basic nervous system which uses electrical impulses..........they could see life at the a
  3. I understand where you are coming from, but please direct your comments at the Angs from the Guru Granth Sahib ji which condem celibacy. What is a Sant going to tell me about problems I may have if he has never experienced the love of another woman? All our Guru's were married (bar one, because he was a child). People confuse this perduit of Celibacy with Kaam....but Kaam is different. Kaam is an obsession with sex. Normal sexual intercourse is just about procreating or expressing your love for an individual. Go d has created with these instincts, it is when we get OBSESSED we go agai
  4. Good question. A friend of mine brought to my attention that because plants don't run away, what they will do is try and poison you to prevent ingestion. Some beans etc. However, if you look at the Chaurasi Lakh Joon argument which does not differentiate between mineral, plant and animal then it is really left to personal empathy. Some people have empathy with animals.............some don't....some with certain animals (cat , dog)........ Me myslel, am a plant lover and play music to my plants and even talk to them. Believe it or not they grow less when I ignore them. This essay i
  5. I totally disagree on this one. Celibacy goes to the very heart of Sikhism. It is a form of asceticism. There is a massive difference between those who do not find the right partner (as in the cases highlighted above), and those who are celibates. We have examples of various sects who have been made outcastes from Sikhs because they espouse celibacy. It is not the Sikh way. It is not the way of the householder, and is more akin to Catholcism. Page 418 Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and Page 1282 Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji I reiterate again..........it is Kaam (abnornal sexu
  6. What verse and where. Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji tells us to respect life in all its form, animal, plant, mineral. We do not shirk from taking a Plants life....and Bani says the Joon of a Plant is the same as an animal......just something to think about. Bani talked about Sustainability many years ago..........a concept we are only understanding now. .....and Amarpal keep the discussion in one form mate...........I have presented evidence that Kabir was in all respects historically talking about the wanton destruction by Timur..........he invaded India at the time of Kabir...sacked D
  7. Thanks for your reply. I think the meat thing can be apllied to anything. I think meat is often connected to Lobh.......however, I have observed if a person os greedy then they are greedy.....it is that they must control. The article does not prescribe that one diet is for all (as you have stated).....all it says is don't be black and white in your judgement (as you have said).............Sikhi lets you make informed decisions. I have met people who are obseesed with eating meat....I have also met people who are obsessed with vegetarians..........both will lead to a narrow mind set an
  8. Specialist and Truskool have remixed a brilliant song that teaches against the evils of drug taking and alcoholism. They have therfore done a great service to the Paanth!! Let us not throw the baby out with the bath water.
  9. It is Kaam we as Sikh are told to avoid. What is Kaam? Kaam = Lust or an unhealthy OBSESSION with Sex. Much like an alcoholics addiction to alcohol. Celibacy goes against Guru Nanaks teachings of a householder and therfore has no place in Sikhism.
  10. Hi Amardeep, we are already having this converstaion at: http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/essays-on-si....html#post25579 The Hukamnama you speak of doesn't exist. The issue about punishement is non-issue...in the extract taken from the essay: This issue has come to the forefront of recent years, but all the evidence coallated clearly shows that this issue never divided the Sikh Paanth before. Jhatka eating Sikhs and Vegetarians Sikh, fought together, sat together, ate together and even died together.
  11. The culture one is a tough one. I think I have always tried to argue that Punjabiat and Sikhism are two different things. The former is full of superstition and very narrow minded in some respects. Sikhi however is Universal and very enlightened. Let me give you an example....Gurpreet Bhatti and her playy Behzti totally missed the point.........her criticism hit the wrong target ..........Sikhism.....what she was actually trying to target was conservative Punjabi behaviour n (she didn't even realise that). The reason for this being she was a poor writer and had ZERO (or a Punjabiat) unde
  12. Thanks for the comments....any constructive comments would be welcomed. Thanks PS other issues to be tackled are - Castiism/Racism - Kaam, Krodh, Moh, Lobh Hankaar.....interpretation and application - Truth Freedom, Justice - Living the The Sikh Way
  13. FOOLS WHO WRANGLE OVER FLESH FOREWARD The authors of this paper (one a vegetarian and one meat eating Sikh) wrangled hard with their own common sense which told them, “don’t be a fool and start wrangling over an issue which our great Guru’s dismissed as not worthy of discussionâ€. We did however feel as amateur Sikh Historians and commentators on Sikh affairs that we should use our knowledge and experience to clarify what is such a controversial issue. This essay out to be objective as possible but we ourselves probably taking one side as we waded through the arguments and coun
  14. Unfortunately mcleod relies heavily on some very dubious sources............ read The Sikh revolution by Jagjit Singh..................... ............All the Symbols of sikhism are those that are associated with royalty............... ..............Buddha was a Prince and wore long hair............he was not a Jatt.................the Khatri/Khashatree's were not averce to wearing long hair..............or bearing arms..................their surnames Bhall (Spear) etc reflect their military heritage...................wearing long hair is an ancient royal custom............. ......
  15. Hi Lads.....and Ladettes........I'm starting a thread on each of the SSikh Misls...........maybe we could swap info..............feel free to copy and paste or contribute................see http://www.sikh-history.com/cgi-bin/Ultima...i?ubb=forum;f=1
  16. Hi all, Long time since I posted here, so rather than post what I was discussing on another forum, I thought I'd stick a link here and ask your opinion................thanks....... http://www.sikh-history.com/cgi-bin/Ultima...ic;f=1;t=001825
  17. This topic is about me....................look guys as some of you are aware there has been a smear campaign against me..................BUT...............don't retaliate PLEASE as it only adds more fuel to the fire. Sikh-Watcher..............you think you are doing a service.................brother you are but keep it real.......................don't play into the hands of these castist racist fools....................... ................the Mods and Admins are right hear to stop your post................anyway..............concentrate on Sikhi and let SMART watch those who make fun of
  18. Hi lallesvari............I am not saying be a prude..........but also don't go around putting about all over the place.............then the act of making Love becomes very cheap.............and I think making love should be a very special thing...................so I'm not talking about repressing it..........but about not dropping your dhoti at the first sign of a carnal urge.........
  19. The Kachera is made so for chastity. Hindu's wore Dhoti's which could easily be unwrapped and was quick for promiscous acts to take place. The Kachera is tied at the top and is one ready madde garment and does not readily come off............wheras the dhoti is easily wrapped and unwrapped............it is to remind us of Chastity.........and not go round putting it about ...... Personally I see no problem with wearing something else under the Kachera.........but it is true........tight underpants will make a man sterile.........wearing of trousers and underpants may have a lot to do with f
  20. Could have been worse....... 7. Islam (67%) 8. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (67%) 9. Hinduism (63%) Far too close for comfort..........
  21. Hi Deep, I've got some mates in Perth.............one is a friend a Gora married to a Muslim Gal.........he was called Steve but now calls himself Yasin...........the surname is Adams............I know Perth is a big place so the chances of you knowing them is minimal..............anyway..........they're a nice bunch..............and his Misssus used to like going to the Gurudwara ...............despite being a Muslim...............
  22. Here are my results.............just one snip a way from being a Jew 1. Sikhism (100%) 2. Reform Judaism (94%) 3. Unitarian Universalism (83%) 4. Neo-Pagan (80%) 5. Liberal Quakers (78%) 6. Orthodox Judaism (75%) 7. Islam (67%) 8. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (67%) 9. Hinduism (63%) 10. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (63%) 11. New Age (63%) 12. Bahá'í Faith (62%) 13. Mahayana Buddhism (61%) 14. Scientology (58%) 15. Secular Humanism (57%) 16. New Thought (56%) 17. Taoism (54%) 18. Ja
  23. N30 Singh said Veeraya........I'm flattered BUT I'm happily married...... .........sorry mate but all my relatives and friends are married..........
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