randip singh

err no Bijla Singh. There was another discussion about this on sikh-akj-sangat.com years ago, and when I asked what academics had confirmed its authenticity I received a torrent of abuse. I think what I ask is a fair question given as their are so many mischief makers out there. If you have sources, then post them (especially English ones).

I do not powerlift. Haven't for many years. 100 kilo's for deadlift, squat and bench is good for general fitness. Ok let me get this right. You are only on a vegetarian diet no eggs, and you compete at the highest level in power lifting competitions? You use no roids and you don't supplement. If this is what you are saying then I don't believe you. and Why would I want to come to London to train with you? I have nothing to prove, but you clearly do. Learn a bit of humility and curb the ego friend. Use people like this: http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/health-and-n...dybuilding.html as inspiration. Another little anecdote for you, I see many Singh's coming into the gyms and many believe what you write i.e. they will become big and awesomely strong by a pure vegetarian diet (no eggs). When after 6 months (if they last that long), they are still yellow and skinny and cannot understand why nothing happens, you should write a book for them. Best wishes.

Legpress boy. You believe whatever you want. I have met enough internet warriors and real life gimps to last me a life time. I do not take people on the internet seriously.

Err yes whatever. It's not poor. It's good for what I need to do. You are talking juvenile nonsense. It is enough weight to maintain fairly good strength without putting pressure on my joints. But hey you would know that if you knew ANYTHING about training. Back to topic So you do not supplement?

You are a young kid. I suggest, get some fresh air and get a life.

indeed this is the problem. A lot of the sources are from La-la-land.

You know I have questioned these people before on these so called eyewitness accounts, and as yet, I cannot find any sources. Instead I recieved hostility at Sikhsangat. Sikh History from Perssian Sources Irfan Habib and grewal and Vaaran Bhai Gurdas is the closest I have come.

Hey leg press man, you doing half a metric tonne yet?

You believe whatever you want. You cannot get big and massive be a vege (no eggs) without supplements. Anyone who says they can is a liar. I only bench squat and deadlift 100 kilo's (on each exercise). I'm 40 now so extrapolate back what I was lifting in my 20's. No grappling?.....how old are you?

did you catch the antelope and zebra. haha and no you can't unless you supplement, but you can try, like some of the suckers used to at my old gym.

Maybe they have human qualities? http://www.livescience.com/animals/061030_...ant_mirror.html

Great question. There was a great series years ago on BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/prehistoric_life/h...uman_evolution/ It talked about how we became man. For me the human test is consciousness. When did we become concious of our existence. For example, you put a mirror in front of an animal and it will run away or peck it, or attack it. Only humans (and possibly apes) will look. Why because humans are actually concious of their own existence.

Hmm, Seems to be a lot of people against Gyani Arshi. I find his view points quite refreshing. Better than some of the point finger, blasphemer, burn her posts I see. As for Kala Afghana, I don't know what his views are but from what I see and read here his views don't really seem that bad. His name seems to be banded about as if he is the devil. Not enough to get him called a blasphemer or get him excommunicated. Like I stated in a post on SPN I have more of a problem with pornstars like Sunny Leone redefining Sikh belief, rather than people who try and use reason. Afgana seems to upset the AKJ crew by saying things about Randhir Singh and things seem to have gone haywire after that. Saying that I frequently upset the AKJ crew and find some of Randhir Singh's views ludicrous. I see the crux of the matter that SPN stands for freedom to express views, whether they are pro or against Dasam Granth. A lot of people seem intolerant of that. They put on a tin pot dictator mentality despite living in a democracy. They put up with diverse views in their daily lives yet when another Sikh expresses a different view they are a heretic. How sad is that? That is called Talibanisation.

Well that is the view. Like it or lump it. My own personal view on Dasam Granth can be summed up in the following: http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/dasam-granth...sam-granth.html There are others on SPN that find Chitropakyan particularly offensive and an insult to the 10th Master. I may not necessarily agree with their view, but I respect it. What I fear the likes of Inder Singh/Singh2 are doing is trying to "Talibanise" Sikhi, where people are either Blasphemors or Believers. By Singh2's logic all non-Sikhs are Blasphemers because they don't believe in Sikh scriptures. Incredibly narrow minded and incredibly silly.

I hope this clears up this nonsense that Inder Singh's bruised ego started. http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/dasam-granth...sam-granth.html

To GillAus and Mithar. Precisely! I envisaged Khalistan to be a shining light. A beacon of freedom and justice for all, but somewhere it went all a bit funny......and I don't mean funny haha.

You have never attacked anyone have you? You have never called anyone names? Please stop this nonsense, at first I found you amusing. Now I am finding you just plain sad.

1) Where's the link? In anycase someone thinking Dasam Granth is not written by the 10th Master is not slander. It's called an opinion. Something you cannot seem to understand. 2) Guru Gobind Singh did not worship Chandi. You may think this but I do not. Definition Slander: I really cannot see where slander is taking place apart from you Inder Singh. Like I said look up Mcarthyism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

Read the definition of Mcarthyism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

Have you learned what the "Leg Press" exercise is yet? :lol:

They are better than you and you have no proof they promote Kala Afghana. What they do do is make you post evidence, and you cannot usually do that. Page 870 ਮੂਰਖ ਸਿਉ ਬੋਲੇ ਝਖ ਮਾਰੀ ॥੨॥ मूरख सिउ बोले झख मारी ॥२॥ Mūrakẖ si▫o bole jẖakẖ mārī. ||2|| To speak with a fool is to babble uselessly. ||2|| ਬੋਲਤ ਬੋਲਤ ਬਢਹਿ ਬਿਕਾਰਾ ॥ बोलत बोलत बढहि बिकारा ॥ Bolaṯ bolaṯ badẖėh bikārā. By speaking and only speaking, corruption only increases. ਬਿਨੁ ਬੋਲੇ ਕਿਆ ਕਰਹਿ ਬੀਚਾਰਾ ॥੩॥ बिनु बोले किआ करहि बीचारा ॥३॥ Bin bole ki▫ā karahi bīcẖārā. ||3|| If I do not speak, what can the poor wretch do? ||3|| ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਛੂਛਾ ਘਟੁ ਬੋਲੈ ॥ कहु कबीर छूछा घटु बोलै ॥ Kaho Kabīr cẖẖūcẖẖā gẖat bolai. Says Kabeer, the empty pitcher makes noise, ਭਰਿਆ ਹੋਇ ਸੁ ਕਬਹੁ ਨ ਡੋਲੈ ॥੪॥੧॥ भरिआ होइ सु कबहु न डोलै ॥४॥१॥ Bẖari▫ā ho▫e so kabahu na dolai. ||4||1|| but that which is full makes no sound. ||4||1||

Slander and nindya is all you know. That is all you have to spend in your purse. You get defeated in multiple debate and when people question your sources you revert to slander on other forums. Inder Singh if you think I'm a monkey that's fine. That's your view, and you are entitled to it, but when you lose debates you don't go crying to other people do you. I thought the Sikh way was to stand up for yourself. I myself asked you a million times to debate the issues and not the person. Provide sources to back up your arguments. You couldn't and wouldn't and now you are slithering from forum to forum. That is really sad. She is a better Sikh than you. For you specifically Page 308 ਸਲੋਕ ਮਃ ੪ ॥ सलोक मः ४ ॥ Salok mėhlā 4. Shalok, Fourth Mehl: ਜਿਸੁ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਤਾਤਿ ਪਰਾਈ ਹੋਵੈ ਤਿਸ ਦਾ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਹੋਵੀ ਭਲਾ ॥ जिसु अंदरि ताति पराई होवै तिस दा कदे न होवी भला ॥ Jis anḏar ṯāṯ parā▫ī hovai ṯis ḏā kaḏe na hovī bẖalā. One whose heart is filled with jealousy of others, never comes to any good. ਓਸ ਦੈ ਆਖਿਐ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਲਗੈ ਨਿਤ ਓਜਾੜੀ ਪੂਕਾਰੇ ਖਲਾ ॥ ओस दै आखिऐ कोई न लगै नित ओजाड़ी पूकारे खला ॥ Os ḏai ākẖi▫ai ko▫ī na lagai niṯ ojāṛī pūkāre kẖalā. No one pays any attention to what he says; he is just a fool, crying out endlessly in the wilderness. ਜਿਸੁ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਚੁਗਲੀ ਚੁਗਲੋ ਵਜੈ ਕੀਤਾ ਕਰਤਿਆ ਓਸ ਦਾ ਸਭੁ ਗਇਆ ॥ जिसु अंदरि चुगली चुगलो वजै कीता करतिआ ओस दा सभु गइआ ॥ Jis anḏar cẖuglī cẖuglo vajai kīṯā karṯi▫ā os ḏā sabẖ ga▫i▫ā. One whose heart is filled with malicious gossip, is known as a malicious gossip; everything he does is in vain. ਨਿਤ ਚੁਗਲੀ ਕਰੇ ਅਣਹੋਦੀ ਪਰਾਈ ਮੁਹੁ ਕਢਿ ਨ ਸਕੈ ਓਸ ਦਾ ਕਾਲਾ ਭਇਆ ॥ नित चुगली करे अणहोदी पराई मुहु कढि न सकै ओस दा काला भइआ ॥ Niṯ cẖuglī kare aṇhoḏī parā▫ī muhu kadẖ na sakai os ḏā kālā bẖa▫i▫ā. Night and day, he continually gossips about others; his face has been blackened, and he cannot show it to anyone. ਕਰਮ ਧਰਤੀ ਸਰੀਰੁ ਕਲਿਜੁਗ ਵਿਚਿ ਜੇਹਾ ਕੋ ਬੀਜੇ ਤੇਹਾ ਕੋ ਖਾਏ ॥ करम धरती सरीरु कलिजुग विचि जेहा को बीजे तेहा को खाए ॥ Karam ḏẖarṯī sarīr kalijug vicẖ jehā ko bīje ṯehā ko kẖā▫e. The body is the field of action, in this Dark Age of Kali Yuga; as you plant, so shall you harvest. ਗਲਾ ਉਪਰਿ ਤਪਾਵਸੁ ਨ ਹੋਈ ਵਿਸੁ ਖਾਧੀ ਤਤਕਾਲ ਮਰਿ ਜਾਏ ॥ गला उपरि तपावसु न होई विसु खाधी ततकाल मरि जाए ॥ Galā upar ṯapāvas na ho▫ī vis kẖāḏẖī ṯaṯkāl mar jā▫e. Justice is not passed on mere words; if someone eats poison, he dies. ਭਾਈ ਵੇਖਹੁ ਨਿਆਉ ਸਚੁ ਕਰਤੇ ਕਾ ਜੇਹਾ ਕੋਈ ਕਰੇ ਤੇਹਾ ਕੋਈ ਪਾਏ ॥ भाई वेखहु निआउ सचु करते का जेहा कोई करे तेहा कोई पाए ॥ Bẖā▫ī vekẖhu ni▫ā▫o sacẖ karṯe kā jehā ko▫ī kare ṯehā ko▫ī pā▫e. O Siblings of Destiny, behold the justice of the True Creator; as people act, so they are rewarded. ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਕਉ ਸਭ ਸੋਝੀ ਪਾਈ ਹਰਿ ਦਰ ਕੀਆ ਬਾਤਾ ਆਖਿ ਸੁਣਾਏ ॥੧॥ जन नानक कउ सभ सोझी पाई हरि दर कीआ बाता आखि सुणाए ॥१॥ Jan Nānak ka▫o sabẖ sojẖī pā▫ī har ḏar kī▫ā bāṯā ākẖ suṇā▫e. ||1|| The Lord has bestowed total understanding upon servant Nanak; he speaks and proclaims the words of the Lord's Court. ||1|| Like I said, I am proud to be a monkey but what you are doing is spreading poison: Page 171 ਮਨਮੁਖ ਹੀਅਰਾ ਅਤਿ ਕਠੋਰੁ ਹੈ ਤਿਨ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਕਾਰ ਕਰੀਠਾ ॥ मनमुख हीअरा अति कठोरु है तिन अंतरि कार करीठा ॥ Manmukẖ hī▫arā aṯ kaṯẖor hai ṯin anṯar kār karīṯẖā. The hearts of the self-willed manmukhs are hard and cruel; their inner beings are dark. ਬਿਸੀਅਰ ਕਉ ਬਹੁ ਦੂਧੁ ਪੀਆਈਐ ਬਿਖੁ ਨਿਕਸੈ ਫੋਲਿ ਫੁਲੀਠਾ ॥੩॥ बिसीअर कउ बहु दूधु पीआईऐ बिखु निकसै फोलि फुलीठा ॥३॥ Bisī▫ar ka▫o baho ḏūḏẖ pī▫ā▫ī▫ai bikẖ niksai fol fuṯẖīlā. ||3|| Even if the poisonous snake is fed large amounts of milk, it will still yield only poison. ||3||

Now like Inder Singh aka Singh 2 I think people here need to go back to school and learn to read. Here is what I wrote: Now please enlighten me where I said the people here, or this person here? Please tell me which exact person or persons I called a monkey? Did I call the thread a monkey, in which case why are you offended that the thread is being called a monkey? See this is the problem. If you have a small house, do not make provision to entertain an elephant!

The monkeys were having a nice tea party, then one of them threw something at the other. Before you knew it they were hurling faeces at one another. Get the picture! Infact I might leave. Never thought I would see the day this forum would turn into sikhsangat 2. Its a real shame.

Try you for what? What are you implying? Learn what "Leg Press" is first then come and talk.