The truth

I was at the pre-meeting and i was at leamington, but did not make it into the room (all Guru's hukam) and it WAS NOT in the Community cnetre, it was in gurdwara next to the library on same hallway as Sach Khand

Jungee and others pls know facts from both sides before sayign harsh words The sharab room was definately in the Gurdwara sahib premises next to the library and on same hallway as Sach Khand, it was never over diwalli as u say, you talk about ekta, well ebfore makign comments know the facts, and before mentioning names and jatebandis, know the facts i repeat the sharab party was in gurdwara building and not in community hall IT WAS NOT in the community hall. A stance needed to be made (and only Guru Sahib and those actually there know whether the right stance was made )) at the end of day, Seperate community halls where parties are held are bad, but as no one made a stance at the time, it's now accepted amongst the wider panjabi community. Now sharab is gettign in to the sacred premises of dARBBAR sAHIB!!!!!!!!!!!! and once one place does it the trend will follow so a stance had to be taken, otherwise 20 yrs down the line who knows what we coudl see a choice of veg/non veg langar, water or whisky to drink!!!!!!!!!! This can not happen. It was guru's hukam that Leamington were the 1st place for this to happen, i repeat the sharab party was in gurdwara building and not in community hall Gurfateh ji

Hanji i understand that but if the information WAS not correct or was biased in the 1st version, then once realised, do you still need 9 versions to get the 'correct' version and a non biased version

wow 9 editions of one book i thought truth was truth why 9 editions, to make sure all the evidence gathered is one sided?

Be good to see all the uk sangat turn upto this including the Nihangs of the UK

Gurfateh ji Rakesh Singh Good suggestion I take it that means you'll turn up at the next protest!!!! ))) Be good to see you and others who use this forum turn up, esepcially as the wider panjabi community are cussing the campaign down blatently check out http://www.barficulture.com/community/curr...8d988b6dead649b

don't forget Khalsacamp www.khalsacamp.org

Orchid u said "i want justice! this happened 2 years ago but still...! they cant go around saying that" wut ever happeend to "freedom of speech" )

yeah tableji that rain-sbai was amazing and for those who say there's no raag kirtan at rain-sbais well that bibi from inida who did kirtan (i think about 10pm) well she kicked it the raags were flowing and so was the simran it's all good also it was good to see so much sangat there enjoying the ras of the kritan even Nidar Singh and other Nihang Singhs turned up to do darshan of Guru ji and the sangat and to listen to kirtan ))) so it can't all be that bad )))))))))))))

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh jio anyone who attended the recent rainsbai in wolverhampton-uk will understand the benefit of attending them it was truly amazing Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh ji

i was reading another website today and the following idea came up "Why harp on practices of the 16th century to diffrentiate the religion? What about telling us what the religion is doing in the 21st century? Its funny we are so caught up in the past, but I don't see people getting really fired up to stop female infantacide or female malnutrition, or castism, or the economic exploitation of poor folk in Punjab. Who is talking about Punjabis attitudes to migrant labor from Bihar? In fact, who is talking about anything with relevence to human rights or economic rights in Sikh institutions? Its very sad," and it got me thinking - how today the nihangs are talking so much about history and the 'glorious past' but wut in reality are they doing in the modern world all i can see them doing is bigging their own egos up, talking loads, spreading hate and disunity but no action if this is the true army of the sikhs - then man we are in trouble to all the nihangs, don't live on past reputations, do something postive if you can-

Someone asked about Nihangniiis well not many exist this is because Nihangs do not let women take Khanda-di bata Amrit they only let women take Kirpan Amrit Thus Nihangniis are not given equal status by Nihangs

that is where the problem is with our youth today Lasslesvari u said "Some revolutionary work on Dasam Granth is going to appear within the next two years. This will be a bomb that will shake the SGPC's And AKJ's ass big time. ps. It's not my own work so I am not talking about my work... wait and see" now wouldn't of it have been easier to say 'work on Dasam Granth that will help in everyones understanding' instead of making it a 'them us situation' no other Singh is our enemy - don't see other Singhs as the oppenent in battle if the work on Dasam Granth is being undertaken to help all all ) chardi kalal if it is being done with an ulterior agenda then i am Guru ji wouldn't be too happy.

underground sikhi don't try and make yourself in to some kind of modern day martryer for the cause no one as far as i know as ever slandered the underground sikhi site infact i think it's cool- it's a wicked meduim to appeal to youth, it's great seva the issue isn't even with the sarbloh/shaster websites content as alot of it makes sense the issue is was 'why start another thread on sarbloh/shastervidya when the webmakers of those sites never repsonded to the questions posed last time a thread started' simple as that

the truth well done for locking the sarbloh/shastervidya topic it really makes me laugh- certain websites that have been started have caused alot of trouble etc and when questions were asked no answers were given see the link for further details http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...opic.php?t=1480 and the nihangs whet quiet for a while then undergroundsikhi again 4 weeks later tries to start the topic again please answer previous questions first instead of trying to portray how wonderful those websites are.