Jasdev Singh

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh DAMDAMI TAKSAL SINGHS DO NOT DO CHATKA OR SUKHA! Damdami Taksal is against the use of meat for the sheer pleasure of taste, but if it comes down to surivial theirs nothing wrong in eating it, this is said in Amrit Sanchars and is written in Khalsa Jeevan. We do not oppose Nihung marayda as they are a part of the panth. You will never see Damdami Taksal put down any jathey bandi that is a part of the panth, as some of you are doing on this message board. "Most taksalis say loads of things, they should only be taken with a pinch of salt- narinder" If you wish to slander me then go ahead but do not bring Taksals name into it. Taksal is willing to discuss not fight any topic you bring up, you choose the time and place. We do not make cowardly comments on the net. "Baba Gurbachan Singh started the Blue dress for in Taksal. If you look at pictures of Sant Sunder Singh he used to wear white clothes and pagg. Sant Bishan Singh Muralewale used to wear the regular turban as opposed to the gol (round) turban that taksalis wear today.-shyam" Inncorrect statement, please ask senior Taksal singhs. Shows how intelligent people are, they make their conclusions from pictures. "Jasdev Singh you are misled and confused. Don’t confuse naive readers with your confused views.-shyam" "Jasdev Singh – so-called jathedar of Taksal-shyam" I do not claim myself as jathedar, so stop tryin to cause trouble. As for me being mislead and confused, I am still a learner....i have not obtained brahm gian like some of the people that post on this site. If you wish to do veechar then come, Damdami Taksal singhs are waiting, pick a time and place. I think we should all learn to respect each other. Most of the people anti nihung havnt even chilled with nihungs, vice versa for akjs. Every jatha has its good people and its trouble makers. To me it seems that all this fighting and bashing is personal stuff and these ignorant immature people are involving jathay bandian to cause trouble and hatred between each other. I think everyone should take out some time and do sangat of every jathay bandi, then you will see the big picture of ekta(unity). I have chilled with Nihangs in India as well as Akj(India and abroad) both groups have chardi kala singh(naam abiyasees). I know for a fact that India Nihangs are not only about Chatka/Sukha, they do their amrit vela and madd Dasam di Bani. I cannot speak the same for the uk Nihungs as I have never stayed with them. ' "According to taksaal rules and your logic on the use of a few sukhaa leaves, would it be okay for me as an amritdharee to drink a beer now and then?" First let me make clear that Taksal does not do Sukha, 2) you should try not to twist the statement. Everything is a drug to a certain extent. If you leave Goor(Rass from sugar cane) for a couple weeks it becomes desi liquor but Goor itself is not. If you manipulate grapes they become wine. Whenever you manipulate something it can become a nasha to a certain extent. I would request all the singhs to stay together, instead of bashing each other. Why not use all this energy and anger towards all these fake gurus out there. We waste our time fighting each other. Discussion is a good thing but bashind is plain out ignorant. All you ignornant immature youth should learn from your elders and stop causing problems. Stick to the discussion of Rag Mala, that is an important issue as it is a part of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Bhul Chuk Maaf Jasdev Singh Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Gatka Akhara Damdami Taksal Toronto Jatha Bhindra Metha

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh I think we should always look at both sides of the story. One of my veers stated that senior members of akj said Bhai Randhir Singh never agreed to Rag Mala. I counter this statement not with hatred but with the truth, we read Rag Mala infront of Bhai Jeevan Singh and he sat there and listened in Toronto. Bhai Jeevan Singh also stayed in Taksal during Sant Kartar Singhs time and was also a student of Sant Baba Nand Singh Nanaksar. I know for a fact that a good percentage of akj does read Rag Mala, and if I am not wrong majority of akj uk reads it as well. I think akj should start reading it because they are really contradicting themselves, one they say they follow Akal Takat but Akal Takat reads it. Bhai Randhir Singh even agreed in believing Rag Mala, you can ask senior chardi kala Taksal singhs which were present. This issue has been resolved many times but certain senior akj members still decide to go their own path and do not agree. In 1986 (Sarbat Khalsa) the truth came foward once again in front of the whole panth. They put two different parcheean(papers) one pro rag mala and the other saying anti rag mala in the sarovaar at Sach Khand Sri Darbar Sahib(Har ki Pauri was the exact spot) and the pro rag mala paper was choosen. For more info on why Rag Mala is bani follow the link on www.damdamitaksal.org. Sant Gurbachan Singh had prem with every jathay bandi, Nihangs called him Nihnag, Nirmalay called him Nirmala and even akj use to have alot of respect for Santji. He had love for any jathay bandi. He especially liked Nihang singhs, he would keep a couple nihangs with him all the time. Even to this say there are always Nihung singhs learning from Taksal. Nihung singhs and Taksal have a very tight background because after all the jangs(battles) were finished they came to Damdama Sahib and began to learn more about Gurbani. Dam means to take a breath, so the singhs finally got a breath from all the fighting and began learning more gurbani and this is where Damdami Taksal began. Someone said that Taksal is totally against chatka and sukha, this statment is incorrect. Taksal does not promote chatka nor does it promote sukha but at the same time it does not oppose these issues. Nihungs have always been a part of the panth, Taksal stand on chatka is to do it in necessary situations. I know that singhs in Taksal also do Ragra and make Shardayee on a regular basis but without sukha because there is no need for it. People who say sukha is a drug are wrong because to a certain extent everything is a drug if it is abused. Using Sukha to get high is wrong but to put a few leaves in Shardayee will not give you a high, once again Taksal trys to avoid the use of a sukha though......sorry for the off topic discussion. So lets not be ignorant, every read Rag Mala and clear all these other differences we have and fight the real problems the sikh panth has. RAG MALA IS BANI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bhul Chuk Maaf Jasdev Singh Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Gatka Akhara Damdami Taksal Toronto Jatha Bhindra Metha

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh I find it really insulting when some people are questioning the authenticy of Damdami Taksal. The four main jathay bandian from Guruji's time were: 1)Taksal 2)Nihangs 3)Nirmalay 4)Udassi. All these jathay bandis still exist to this day, and they have outmost respect for each other. I would request the nihungs to ask their respected Jathedars (Jathedar Santa Singh Budha Dal, Jathedar Tarna Dal,Jathedar Nihal Singh Harian Velan, Jathedar Daya Singh Bidhi Chand, and all the others I have left out) about the history of Taksal as they definitely know all the full facts. Majority of the Jathedars from Taksal have been a big part of the panth. Either as granthi's or teachers at darbar sahib or as great warriors. Nihang singhs have a very strong ties with Taksal, my family is personally related to Jathedar Akali Phula Singh Bhuda Dal and has always been very close to Taksal. Damdami Taksal history will be shortly up as we are very busy working on our websites: www.damdamitaksal.com, www.damdamitaksal.org, www.gurparsad.org, www.gursikhijeevan.com. "actually the real successor to Sant Gurbachan Singh Bhindranvale was Sant Mohan Singh Bhindranvale who remained in Bhindran kalan, whereas Sant Kartar Singh set up his group in Chowk Mehta. " This statement is 100% false as we have the tapes in which Sant Giani Gurbachan Singh Khalsa says that Sant Kartar Singh will be given all responsibilities of Taksal. Please refrain from making comments that are not 100% correct. You should not make a statement which you are not sure about unless you state that you are unsure. Please be patient and wait for the sites to go up, as they will answer many questions people have regarding Damdami Taksal. Bhul Chuk Maaf Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh