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snigga

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  1. I refuse to carry this conversation on, as you've shown to have no intellect whatsoever on this topic. Next post you make should be to retract your last comments. Theirs no point in even joking that nas held up next to 2pac. To think that should be a kurrait!! "All that comes to a man who sleeps is dreams" ---2pac
  2. What are you talking about Nas being deep!?!? Nas was never deep he didn't have a grasp of metaphore..I'll respect him for his lyrical talent, but that man was taking 2pacs life and wording it making it sound like it was his in his songs.. Nas was good but as many others these days just a parkhandhi.. 2pacs lyrics are sick...I like the song me and my girlfriend, which in he's doing the upmaa of his gun....
  3. your right....these people did the exact same anyalysis on SGGSJ and did tremendous amounts of prechaar for the panth and are all well known and respected prechaarks and all sampurdaama fully support them....
  4. Hopefully I will be able to come up with these answers soon, I've been quite busy and when I get a chance will look further into this, and hopefully be able to help you solve this. All prataan Birs I know off contain Sahib Sri Raag Maala Sahib and all those written by Shaheed Baba Deep Singh contain Guru Sahibs signiture at the end of Sri Raag Malaa Sahib. If you find the signitures to be fabricated, well I can't do much for you other then ask you to double check. Sri Raag Maala Sahib was always read at Sri Akaal Takht when Akaal Takht was under the managment of Budha Daal and the nihang Khalsa Panth. It was not until the Panj Kandian took power in the mid 90's when it was stopped. However it once again is read and by Guru's grace will continue to be read.
  5. Forgive me again, I edited my post since and it seems by the time I was done you had already posted.. Before you take the whole DDT.ORG revising the raag mala page as your proof maybe you should think about why it was done rather then making assumtions and spreading falsehood. You can read over my last post if you wish and and supply the answers if its within your grasp, heck go and get those blinded gurmukhs if you so wish to answer them for you. Lastly the DDT.Org was altered because Singhs of the AKJ requested that arugment be removed as they disagreed with it and in an attempt to not create Eerka, the wishes where fulfilled.
  6. KDiddy AKa Khalsa Soulja In which publication does Bhai randhir Singh state that raag Maalaa is not bani please include refrence, or are you following those blinded "Gurmukhs" again? Also you have yet to clear doubts about Sant Jarnail Singh not understanding Raag Maalaa other then a taksali told me so.. "A member of AKJ I know said Bhai Randhir Singh beleieved in Raag Malaa", Their I said it, now does that argument hold any weight to you? Off course not, so why try the reverse?? The funny thing about individuals of these new aged jathay are that they are LOST. They have no real sight. They quote from rehat name and then when the same rehat nama is used to counter their arguments "its not exactly the best source since rehat name have been altered". They follow scholars who back up several of their points but then if the same scholar disagree's or counters other points, then that scholar is thought to be lost or an idiot. The best thing about these people is the way they make up stories and cases and what ever else you need. If someone says something agaisnt their point that source is deemed unathentic, fabricated or just fake. However when someone logically proves that their sources are deemed false, replicated, or just non-existing, then all of a sudden they scramble to call everything else altered afterwards. Now KS, please since you have put great vast amounts of research into this topic please list praatan saroops which do not contain raag maala, where they can be found. (If possible studies that back up the date of compilation). On one hand we deem praatan saroops carrying raag mala as being altered afterwards, (its magical that the moghuls or hindu's, whoever they choose to blame it on had the time and rescources to go through all the birs and in identical penmenship used through out, to add it in) But the few that dont as being the original rather then those being produced without raag mala by vicious mahaants. Kdiddy with all respect to Bhai Randhir Singh, do you not ascertain that they may have been influenced even a tad bit by Bhasoria?? after all they where Bhai Sahibs mentor for a good degree of their life. Also if you really do wish to take a new angle on this we can look at panthic sampudaama's, sants, sewaks, and prechaarks who beleived in sri raag maala vs those who didn't and to keep things interesting we'll only look back 100 years, heck we can look back further but then we can get into authenticty of reports etc.) Now I know I wrote a lot so to recap my main questions/requets for you are: 1) Provide refrence of Bhai Randhir Singh disowning Raag Maala in any of their publications. 2) Provide a list of Praatan Saroops which do not contain Sri Raag Mala Sahib and their locations. 3) List those individals (Do not provide me with any jatha's calling list) who disowned Raag Maala, (basically what I'm asking for is written scholars, known sants mahpurkh, sampurdaams and jatha's I guess will do) Forgive my spelling and grammer as I did not have time to spell check this post.
  7. Why to do people insit on spreading faleshood? Does no one have fear of death? how can you spread lies such is thsi one with a clear head?? I hope you retract these comments or at least provide the evidence, with which leads you to make such comments.
  8. only modern day intellects argue over authenticty of certain shabads which for the past 300 years where always recognized by Guru Panth, because they are enriched with venomous hankaar, leading them to believe that if something does not make sense to them, that its ridiculus and not worth second thought, rather then humbly bowing before Guru Sahib and saying Dhaan Mahaaraaj how can I even begin to contemplate your greatness... dumb scholars...........tricks are for kids...
  9. come on guys no software pirating its ILLEGAL... Now to get back to burning my newly downloaded copy of Max Payne 2...
  10. Lakers all the way. They wont do worse then 75-7 this season, if I was a gambling man (gambling's against my Guru's teachings) I'd put my life savings out on them. GO LAKERS GO!
  11. I know we got some Nihang babbay on this board, and was hopeing they could hook a lil man up with pictures of Akali Baba Keertan Singh. Thanks in advance
  12. KDiddy, Now before you go and post "I've seen those links numerous times, and have discussed them with many CK Gurmukhs belonging to ..." we all now the site and the place, go check the bir out for yourself before you start spitting it as facts.... I'm assuming you can read gurmukhi read the Arth Sant Giani Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji wrote up and are published on the same site, and before you post "The arth composed by Sant Giani Gurbachan Singh Ji are messed up because they contain numerous grammatical errors", do me the favour of pointing out the errors ahead of time, please and thank you.. Quick question, Bani = Guru Disowning Bani = Disowning Guru ??? Nah, I'm joking I know I'm getting a little extreme with that example, because its not like those who neglect raag mala neglect the 1429 ang before it, heck its only :roll: (1/1429 x 100) = .07 % ---> 0.1% of Sri Guru Granth Sahib, so they should be all right?? :shock: RIGHT?!?!?!? Hope I didn't hurt any feelings, God Bless you all
  13. Rugdra's wicked for you with or without the weed. Its an excerice in preparing it, itself. lol I remeber when the Budha Daal Nihang did rugrda at the AKJ rainsavhi, you should have seen their faces....priceless.....
  14. Akaali is one or at one point in time was one of the highest titles one could achieve as a gursikh nihang sipahai. Usualy Akaalis where the bravest fighters and where just plain out crazy as most prattan summay nihang singhs where and proved themselves to be greater then death (ie they'd go charging towards death and just didn't give a flying @#$@) Akaali the arth is beyond death or timeless. Nihang singhs where awarded this title because in battle they would prove to not give a mouses droppings as to death and i guess in a way this in some sense is the singh conquering death. Guru Sahib from Guru Nanak Dev Sahib Ji to Sri Guru Gobind singh Sahib Ji where all beyond death. And because they where living embodiments of Akaal, they themselves naturally where Akaali's. If that didn't make any sense, then any respected title we can give a human we can give that times 10 (haha, watch the pun) to our Guru Sahib.
  15. The cut happened in about 1928 I beleive when Panj Kandian took head, at Sri Akaal Takht Sahib. I can't rember details just that these where the malicious individuals who started cutting sikhi at its roots, by shortning Sri Chaupi Sahib in the manour which they did. The panj kandian also did wide prechaar of raag mala not being gurbani, and did a lot of other stupidness. Their was a video on the net on one of the taksal sites about these dumb asses.
  16. Nihang Garja Singh ZINDABAAAAAAAAAAAADDD.. First off all I have nothing against AKJ nor any other jathey bandi that do kirtan and encourage folks to follow the gurus' path, thus am 100% against those who discourage others from the reading of Sri Raag Maala. Firstly Rataan Mala and the other "dodgy stuff" is not contained in Kirtarpur Bir. Exactly who fabricates these lies? and why do people so blindly follow them? Sant Baba Kartaar Singh used to go around and do katha with sant Baba gurbachan Singh and they went to hundreds of pindhs and got darshan of a vast amounts of Guru Sahib dey Bir and in there sri raag malaa katha state that they are yet to have darshan of a bir which did not contain Sri Raag Malaa Sahib. In a recent discussion by an anti raag malaa group (who have been locally boycotted by AKJ Toronto) Khalsa Soulja pointed out to them that many supporters of Raag Malaa use the kirtarpur bir as support, to which these malicious individuals stated that the current Kirtarpur Bir is invalid, and that a copy has been made and kept in which raag malaa does not appear. So ALLLL of a sudden we are following a 'mystery' bir that has popped up (conviently) without raag malaa in it, amazing as to how we can call this one authentic. Now my main beef with those who claim Raag Malaa isn't bani is that they use the internet to fabricate and amplify their voice. They claim numerous birs exist in which raag mala is not present. This is totally FALSE. Birs without raag maala are scarce. For those of you who doubt this claim visit india YOUR SELF! stop letting these mahants twist your thoughts, visit india and go on a pilgrimage of sorts and get darshan of praatan birs, rather then follow Cyber Prechaaraks who have never sat on stage, never gone around to do prechaar, but will type up essays and press send on the true meanings of gurmat. On a side note to the admin in your last edit you wrote: the points i can provide have probabbly been heard by you a million times over, why not provide refrences that raag maala is not the composition of Sri Guru Arjan Dev Sahib Ji, before boldly stating that point.
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