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  1. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Daas wants to forward some really useful information to sangat on this forum. MISTAKES IN GUTKE AND GURBANI APPS: Those people who listen to Nitnem Paath from different paathis on YouTube like Taksaal, Nanaksar, AKJ, or those who have read bani from different Pothis or Gurbani apps must have noted that there are some (sometimes many) differerences in their uchaaran (audio) and in spellings of different words and the position of mangals and sirlekhs. Today,the reason for so many inaccuracies in gutke and Gurbani apps are the selfish motives of the Gurbani press and SGPC and ignorance of panthic jathebandis. To earn profits, they just keep on printing gutke and senchis without doing any research. Back then, a great Panthic Scholar Daarji Joginder Singh Talwara Ji was appointed by the panth to do research on puratan saroops of Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Pothi sahibs to reduce the differences in saroops. He researched for more than 3 decades and came up with his excellent works which were really ahead of his time. Daas will give an example in the end. SANTHIYA AND VICHAR: Due to the request of UK Sangat, Ex Akaal Takht Jathedar Late Singh Sahib Joginder Singh Vedanti (who was a student of Taksaal and later Talwara Ji) started a Sangat Santhiya class to teach Santhiya and aware sangat of the correct spellings according to puratan handwritten saroops. Daas has joined the Santhiya classes and they are very useful. Currently, our teacher is Bhai Surjit Singh Sabhra, head Granthi of Gurudwara Ber Sahib and we are doing Santhiya of Sri Tav Prasad Saviyye. Very knowledgeable gursikhs also attend the class and come up with views of different scholars on uchaaran and spellings of words like Talwara Ji, Vedanti Ji, Taksaal, Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha etc and with sangati vichar, we are able to make our uchaaran more shudh and read words according to Puratan Saroop spellings. If you wish to join, here is the link https://chat.whatsapp.com/GXRJKCmVfd23EfplJYM61d Timings of the class: Saturday and Sunday 1:00-2:00 pm UK 5:30-6:30 pm India (You can convert the time according to your time zone) ****************************************** EXAMPLE OF INACCURACY: SRI JAAP SAHIB: If we ask 3 people that how do they start Sri Jaap Sahib, one will say 1. ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ॥ ॥ ਜਾਪੁ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਵਾਕ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦॥ 2. ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ॥ ਜਾਪੁ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਵਾਕ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦॥ Which one is correct? According to the pictures of handwritten puratan saroops given below, the FIRST ONE is correct. ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library) ਸੰਨ 1755 ਈ. ਦੇ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ ਦੇ ਅੰਤ ਵਿੱਚ ਜਾਪੁ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦਰਜ਼। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library) ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: ਗੁਰਤੇਜ ਸਿੰਘ ਏ.ਐਸ.ਆਈ., Punjab Digital Library) ਦਸਮ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਦੀ ਪੁਰਾਤਨ ਛੋਟੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪੋਥੀ। ਸੰਨ 1831 ਈ. ਦੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: ਦਿੱਲੀ ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਬੰਧਕ ਕਮੇਟੀ, Punjab Digital Library) SRI ANAND SAHIB: There's a prachalit version of Mangal of Anand Sahib. ‘ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ’ appears before ‘ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ’ However, according to puratan handwritten saroops, the manglacharan is ‘ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ’ appears after ‘ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ’ HOWEVER, After 1735, the handwritten saroops didn't have ਰਾਗੁ in their manglacharan. Their manglacharan was reverse of current manglacharan- ‘ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ’ appears after ‘ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ’ ਸ਼੍ਰੋਮਣੀ ਕਮੇਟੀ ਵਲੋਂ ਛਪਾਈਆਂ ਗਈਆਂ ਪੰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀ ਵਾਲੀ ਪੋਥੀ ਦੀਆਂ ਫੋਟੋਆਂ। ਖੱਬੇ: ਸਤੰਬਰ ੧੯੫੮ ਦੀ ਛਪਾਈ ਪੰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀ ਪੋਥੀ। ਸੱਜੇ: ਸਤੰਬਰ ੨੦੧੦ ਦੀ ਛਪਾਈ ਪੰਜ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀ ਪੋਥੀ। ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਪੋਥੀ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੋ ਕਿਹਾ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਛੇਵੇਂ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਪੋਥੀ ਹੈ। ਸੰਨ 1695 ਈ. ਦੀ ਰਾਮਰਾਇ ਵਾਲੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library) ਸੰਨ 1714 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library) SAROOPS AFTER 1735 WITH DIFFERENT MANGLACHARAN (RAAG OMITTED IN RAAG RAMKALI ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਅਨੰਦੁ ) ਸੰਨ 1746 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪਾਵਨ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: ਤਖਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਕੇਸਗੜ੍ਹ ਸਾਹਿਬ, ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਨੰਦਪੁਰ ਸਾਹਿਬ) ਸੰਨ 1749 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਬੀੜ। ਸੰਨ 1801 ਈ. ਦੀ ਹੱਥ ਲਿਖਤ ਪ੍ਰਾਚੀਨ ਬੀੜ। (ਹਵਾਲਾ: Punjab Digital Library) ****************************************** CONCLUSION: Many inaccuracies like these are discussed by sangat along with Santhiya vichar. Daas requests sangat here to take out just 2 hours of the week and contribute to the vichar in the class. This will benefit many. Yesterday, we pointed out 2 mistakes in SGPC Gutka and Head Granthi Sahib (Bhai Surjit Singh Sabhra) said that he will approach SGPC authorities today and make them aware of the mistakes. By contributing to the vichar, we can help ourselves as well as the concerned Sikhs. Bhul chuk maaf Trimandeep Singh (INDIA)
  2. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Guru Piyari Sandh Sangat Ji, Bhai Sahib Bhai Gursharan Singh Ji (Amrit Bani Radio UK Wale) has put together a set of 17 MP3 audio CDs of Gurbani Santhiya of Dhan Dhan Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Bhai Sahib Ji has also been doing this sewa through the medium of Amrit Bani Radio for many years. Thousands of families have learnt how to pronounce Gurbani in correct way. We feel privileged to announce that you can now order this set of 17 MP3 audio CDs through Sikh Collections website at www.sikhcollections.com. These CDs have been professionally recorded in the sweet voice of Bhai Gursharan Singh Ji and they come in a high quality beautiful CD carry bag so all your CDs can be kept safe and with respect. Each CD contains several audio files and each file is easily named/ numbered so you know where you are leaving the Santhiya and where to start it when you sit next time to do Santhiya. This is a highly recommended product and you can gift it to your parents/friends and families so that they can also get benefits from it and learn the right way of pronunciation of Gurbani. This is EXCLUSIVE- Complete Gurbani Santhiya Of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji (17Cd Mp3 Audio Set) Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
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