Matheen Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! I sometimes hear Kathakars etc quote a line about Maharaj Ji starting the 3rd path i.e. Sikhi. It's along the lines of ".......Theesra Panth Chalaaya......" Does anyone know where it's from? Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malwe Da Sher Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Uggardanti.. 'Kareh Khalsa Panth Teesar Parveesah, Jugay Singh Jodhay Turay Neel Bhaisa' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 There's one in uggardanti bani, but i'm sure i've seen it elsewhere too, possibly in something by bhai gurdas ji. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Bhai Gurdas Ji actualy mentions 'nirmal panth': Vaar 1 Pauri 45 Line 4 Guru Angad maariaa skiaa jagath vich naanak niramal panthh chalaayaa|| Teesra panth is only mentioned in 10th Masters Ugardhanti bani as far as I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 where is this Uggardanti found? in puratan Dasam Granth manuscripts or has it been passed down through generations throughit oral tradition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. Sorry going mad Tirath as always you are right! Although it is not in the vaars of Bhai Gurdas Ji but is in the Vaar of Bhai Gurdas Singh which is regarded as the 41st Vaar The Line is from Vaar 41 Pauri 16, line 19 "Ioun Teesar Panth Rachaiyan Vad Soor Guhela" "In this way the guru who is without fear created the third path of the Khalsa" Never dismiss the great Tirath Singh. He knows what he is on about! lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Ah well done Kam, i thought i'd read it recently! Shaheediyan ji, I wasn;t thinking of 'nanak nirmal panth chalaya', (which adorns just about every nirmala poster/publication ever!) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Apologies brother tSingh, I wouldn't ever dream of patronising you! Aah, the 'equivocal' 41st vaar! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 please 'patronise' away, always better to be safe than sorry, and i can be quite thick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 where can i find a recitation of the Uggardanti bani? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Singh Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 http://namdhari.faithweb.com/radio/audio.html#Nitnem 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SAadmin Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I ll put it up soon...stay tuned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsingh00 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 on the topic of uggardanti, does anyone know why some versions have dohras in between the chhakas while others dont? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 is the uggardanti found in puratan gutkas or what? where is it from? some rehitnamas? is there any controversy regarding the bani+ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Uggardanti has been discussed before. It is a bani from the Dasam Granth. It is not found in the Patna Sahib Bir thus we do not see it in the Sri Dasam Granth Birs todays. You can find the bani in the dasam granth saroops of old like the sukhmana sahib. it is written by Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji. You can buy it in Gutka form from Sri Bainee Sahib. Here is a link to the bani and translation http://www.sikh-heritage.co.uk/Scriptures/.../uggardanti.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbreakable Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 .. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 As discussed, Uggardhanti does not appear in modern/mainstream versions of Dasam bani. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 if Sikhi is the Third path, and Islam and hinduism is the first and second, where does this put religions such as christianity, judaism etc? are these not recogniced as religions in Sikhi or? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhane'ch Jannat Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Islam judaism christianity is one path they are essentialiy the same, people of the book. The indic/asiatic initiatory tradition is another path, but there is some overlap. Sikhi is part of the third path, which springs up in places when oppresion becomes overbearing. The light of gods name, burns with intensity to dispel the oppression, and then dies down. In my opinion the third path appears all throughout human history when darkness/ignorance becomes too strong. No doubt the third path will come again in more strength. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 I disagree. Teesra panth is exactly that, and refers to a specific time in history, relating to a specific religious/cultural environment – and the words were used specifically for the Sikh tradition at the time of the 2 dominating religions/cultures – which were bringing no harmony, peace or spirituality to the people of South Asia. It therefore doesn’t make sense to use Teesra panth in this metaphoric fashion, as other cases of oppression may not have been a matter of failure of religion (or its then practitioners) or a ‘3rd’ option by way of faith, path, culture, religion what have you. It may have been a 2nd or 4th option. Sorry to be pedantic, but I think some things should be left to relate what they were intended to relate to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matheen Posted March 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Unbreakable, did you read Kam's link? it's all there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 unbreakable please do not spam the forum with same posts. We all heard you first time matey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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