Aman Singh Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Hey people, When shotay sahibjaday were martyer... where were god then?? didn't he see those two kids were dying , and how come God didn't help them to save thier life. Also , thousands of ppl dying with starvation every year. why don't God help those People. In punjab, thousands of young sikhs were killed by the police. why dont' got punish those responisble people. they are living well life and those who died, thier family is living in poverty and fear. why don't god see all this. when is God going to help all this people. Any Answer?? Hey God, if u some how read this .. then please ..if would like to hear it from u?? Sorry if i have said any thing wrong........... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr §ingh Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Hey people, When shotay sahibjaday were martyer... where were god then?? didn't he see those two kids were dying , and how come God didn't help them to save thier life. Also , thousands of ppl dying with starvation every year. why don't God help those People. In punjab, thousands of young sikhs were killed by the police. why dont' got punish those responisble people. they are living well life and those who died, thier family is living in poverty and fear. why don't god see all this. when is God going to help all this people. Any Answer?? Hey God, if u some how read this .. then please ..if would like to hear it from u?? Sorry if i have said any thing wrong........... ... where were god u mean WHERE WAS GOD :roll: ? when saying where WERE god ...its means like plural... when there only is ONE UNIVERSAL LORD well n e ways I belive the cause for that must be that it was in there KARAM to be maryter in such a young age n u know what i must say that reading about them and using them as example of a GURSIKH I mean i believe iwas to show future Sikhs that with the rite awareness and spirit a 6 and 8 yr old SAHIBZADA kan be maryterd for their religion today ppl go around n cut their hair...but hey THEy didn't they accepted DEATH....... at tyhe age of 6 and 8 (I'm not sure if it was 7 and 9 or 6and 8 ) I believe it was in their KARAM to be maryter in such a young age and to fill the SPIRIT in the future Khalsa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 mr singh is right, it all boils down to karams, the sahibzadey must have done some great bhagti to be born as the children of dhan dhan shri guru gobind singh ji maharaj, they came to this earth to serve some purpose, they were born with the spirit of their father and they loved their religion more then anything shri guru gobind singh ji maharaj knew prior to everything that his children were going to be martryed.... when maharaj took amrit from the panj pyare they asked him "we have given our heads to you maharaj, what will you give us?"... he replied "there will be a day when i will give up my whole family, my children for the khalsa panth"... where shri guru gobind singh ji lost his 4 children, he gained millions in return, the matrdom of the sahibzadey is a message to everyone how you should love your sikhi, its one of the stories that pulls children towards their faith i believe that everything happens for a purpose, the attack on shri harmandir sahib in 1984 will serve a purpose in the future, that attack always keeps a fire burning in the hearts of sikhs, the roits and murders of fellow sikh brothers will always keep sikhs together and fight for what is right, this is kalyug and we will see many highs and lows, to be a sikh in this day and age can be very hard, but we must remember the sacrifices of the khalsa in the past to help us get thru people who do bad deeds, the people who kill other sikhs/muslims/hindus for no reason but just out of hate will be punished when their time comes fateh ji 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khandaydhaar Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Wahegur Ji Ki Fateh YES!!! God always helps us! He helped me when my life had become hell! and i felt Him and Guru Ji close to me very much! Something happened in my life and I felt like i was goin crazy n jst used to cry all day all night and cry in bathroom, cry eating, cry in the Gurdwara, cry doin path, cry holdn Guru Gobind Singh Jis photo, cry while listening to shabads..to be honest i was in urgent need of some anti-depressants, but since i couldnt tell ne1 abt my prob i cried my heart out Waheguru and Guru Ji and they helped me...it took 8 months but im betta now cuz of Guru Ji and hooked to Gurbani and path! Dukh Daroo Sukh Rogg Paiya, Ja Sukh Tam Na Hoi So yes God ALWAYS helps we just need to pray to Him everyday and thank Him and love Him only & He shows the way! Fateh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kaur1699 Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Fateh Ji, Yea of course God helps us... Steel Bangle as already said what I was going to say... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gupt Singh Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 the sons of guru gobind singh were liberated and are in saackhand right now, did god do them an injustice by allowing them to be martyred, or did he free them? as for hte people starving, where there is ying there is yang. its karma. until people become less irreligious that will continue. tis kalyug after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Singh Posted July 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Hey PPL, Mr. Singh.. i meant by only one god, i was wrong. actually i meant by "Where was God". Sorry for that. So can anyone tell me in brief what is karma??. Can it be changed?? Rab Rakha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Karma has been discussed in details already. http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...opic.php?t=1013 http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...opic.php?t=1140 http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...topic.php?t=743 Also search for word "karma" on this site and you will get so many thread and read them whenever you get time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ur Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 to get to sukh - u have to go thru dukh.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaur @ gurus feet Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 wjkk,wjkf aman singh veer, 'perception' is the core of this; there is always more then one way to look at / analyse every situation. example of the sahibzadey; on one hand death on the other saach khand. the problem is that we are often blind to the blessings we have been bestowed with & arn't able to look at the bigger picture - usually because we can't even make out the smaller, immediate picture. this also boils down to gurus bakshish. bhul chuk maaf wjkk,wjkf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ur Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 gud post : kaur @ gurus feet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaur @ gurus feet Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 wjkk,wjkf thanku K4ur paanji; bhul chuk maaf wjkk,wjkf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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