Bhog Of Dasam Granth Paath

[jvalasingh]

Why not go the whole hog and have an Akhand Path of Sarbloh Granth as well. Remember that was the 'secret' text that Nihangs wouldn't show to the Europeans so chances are that had Malcolm not been present the Akalis would have had Parkash of three Granths rather than two.

So when is the Akhand Path of Sarbloh Granth happening?

The late Jathedar Baba Santha Singh Ji organized an Akhand Paat of Sri Sarbloh Granth Sahib I believe in 2003. I wouldn't be shocked to see another one happening in the next couple of years outside India.

[Del Piero]

This Picture i think is of all 3 Granths parkashed

[Guest]

Thanks del piero for that picture, just when i thought i lost my private collection

[shaheediyan]

Tonyhp, you seemed to have an issue with parkaash of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib. Knowing that you put on a pedestal those same people who finally removed Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji from its traditional home, Sri Akaal Takht Sahib, this does not come as a surprise. It wouldn't surprise me at all if you in fact do not even believe in all the baniyan of Dasmesh Pita. Your lack of respect for the maryadai of those Takhts that have unapologetically preserved these maryadai speaks for it self.

But I suppose you have to stay gupt on this subject as you will loose the little niche fan-base you have here on SA.

[singh2]

Dasam Granth is Granth tenth master of sikhs. If sikhs do not have its akhnad path who else will have it.

It is staging a comeback.

Those who are opposed to it can form their sect.

Edited December 28, 2009 by singh2

[tonyhp32]

Shaheediyan,

I don't have a view either way whether ALL of the Dasam Granth is Bani or not. It is up to the Panth to decide and not some guys in nappies who think that just because the Nihangs consider it and Sarbloh Granth as Bani then the case is settled. The debate has been muddied by both sides and it could so easily have been resolved if the Akal Takht Jathedar had called the two sides together and came up with a conclusion once and for all. FYI I do not believe that Sarbloh Granth is Bani.

As for Akhand Paths of Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth, these are just an example of how both sides have gone hyper, no doubt the Anti-Dasam Granth people will do something provocative in response.

[chatanga1]

is akhand paath of Sri Sarbloh not a regular event in dal panth?

[singh2]

For those ignorants who say that panth has to decide whether whole Dasam Granth sahib is bani of tenth master or not , suffice to say that akal takhat is the authority on panthic affairs.Panth considers whole Dasam Granth as sacred bani of tenth master.

That is why three out of five banis of Amrit sanchar and nitnem are from Dasam Granth. Ardas pauri is from Dasam Granth sahib.Panth has decided. THose who have doubts are heretics and come from kala afghana school of thought.

Panth does not have to take dictates from traitors and Sharabi kababi ex jathedar.Read below

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5193

It seems controversy is not anything new for Darshan Singh, the heretic Ragi, who was recently declared a ‘Guru-Nindak’ and a ‘Tankhaiya’ by Sri Akal Takht Sahib, for disobeying the authority of the Supreme Seat of Sikhism.

Evidence has surfaced that more than two decades ago, two major freedom fighting organizations, Bhindranwala Tigers Force, and Babbar Khalsa International were suspicious of the heretic Ragi Darshan Singh, and acknowledged that he was unfit to serve as the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib during those turbulent times.

Many have suspected that Ragi was a mole working for the Government agencies, installed to actively derail and torpedo the Khalistan movement in the late 1980s. New evidence and suspicions raised by prominent Sikh leaders of the past seem to validate this notion.

Ragi Darshan Singh was installed by the Tohra led Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) in late 1986. Although Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal was also declared Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib by a section of the Khalistan freedom fighters, he later resigned for the sake of Panthic unity. Little did he know about the treachery that was unfolding under the leadership of his successor.

The Chandigarh Tribune narrates this shifting of power at the Sikh Takhts in their July 13th, 2002 editorial interestingly titled ‘Misdeeds’ of stalwarts during militancy. The Tribune editor notes:

“The SGPC under Mr Tohra had sacked the head granthi of Darbar Sahib and secured and accepted the resignation of Giani Kirpal Singh and secured and accepted the resignation of Giani Kirpal Singh as Jathedar Akal Takht.

On December 31 (1986), Bhai Darshan Singh Raagi joined as jathedar. On January 23, 1987, the three head priests had also been dismissed and in their place, Giani Puran Singh, Giani Savinder Singh, Giani Jaswant Singh and Giani Kashmir Singh were appointed as high priests. The ‘Sarbat khalsa’ held on January 26, 1987, approved the resolution of April 29 for Khalistan and also the recent appointments of the high priests. In a recorded message of Gurbachan Singh Manochahal played to the gathering he resigned from the post of Jathedar, Akal Takht, to accommodate Bhai Darshan Singh in the larger interest of the Panth."

(July 13, 2002 , Tribune India)

Softening the Target : Ragi Darshan Singh and Shushil Muni

Furthermore, the former Joint Director of India’s Intelligence Bureau, Maloy Krishna Dhar, in his memoirs, states:

“He (Rajiv Gandhi) has already played the peace card through Ragi Darshan Singh and a Jain preacher Sushil Muni…”

(Open Secrets – India’s Intelligence Unveiled, Maloy Krishna Dhar, Manas Publications -2005)

Perhaps, one of the strongest criticisms, and serious allegations leveled against the Ragi came from Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal. Baba Manochahal was the head of the Bhindranwala Tigers Force (BTF), and a key member of the Panthic Committee, during that time period.

Ragi addressing the 'Sikh Convention' on August 4th, 1987,

an event that would be the catalyst for derailing the Khalistan Movement

During a convention held at the Sri Darbar Sahib complex at the Teja Singh Samundri Hall on August 4th, 1987, a statement was read by Baba Manochahal’s representative, Bhai Daya Singh Chohla, that chided the Ragi along with the rest of the ‘Singh Sahibans’ for backtracking on their previous pledge to lead the struggle for the liberation of the Sikh Homeland – Khalistan.

The convention was called by the Takht Jathedars under the pretext that this assembly would 'define' the goals and objectives of the Sikh cause. Baba Manochahal and others openly questioned the need to define the Panth’s goals and objectives when the Sarbat Khalsa had already done so. Baba Manochahal argued that the goal for the establishment of an independent Sikh Homeland, Khalistan had already been declared in 1984 and further ratified by the Sarbat Khalsa in 1986.

The contoversial convention, organized by Ragi Darshan Singh, was attended by Takht Jathedars Giani Kashmir Singh, Giani Sawinder Singh, Giani Jaswant Singh, and many prominent Sikh politicians and personalities of that time.

Khalistan no longer a goal

At the gathering it was declared by the Ragi that the Sikh nation’s goal was not an independent and separate homeland of Khalistan. Instead, the Sikhs should strive for a more more autonomy in India as promised by Pandit Nehru during the partition. The Sikhs no longer needed to fight an armed struggle declared the Ragi, self-governance and autonomy could only be gained through dialogue and votes.

Chaos prevailed throughout at the convention, but this did not distract the Ragi from his task. This was perhaps the first direct attempt to derail the Khalistan struggle at the public level, and an insult to the declarations passed by the Sarbat Khalsa in 1986.

Bhai Daya Singh of Chohla Sahib,

an associate of Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal (BTF)

Bhai Daya Singh of Chohla Sahib, an associate of Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal at that time delivered a fiery message from BTF’s Jathedar, and directly alleged that the Singh Sahibans were working hand-in-hand with the Indian Government to mislead Sikh community and divide the Sikh Freedom Fighters.

In the message read by Bhai Daya Singh, Baba Manochahal warned, such underhanded tactics would not be allowed to succeed by the Sikh Nation.

Message from Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal - read by BTF Deputy Bhai Daya Singh:

(click to listen)

View full text of Baba Manochahal's Warning to Ragi Darshan Singh

Some of main points and questions raised by Baba Manochahal to the Singh Sahibans were as follows:

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Has the Panth actually been fighting without a real objective/goal for the last five years?

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Since 1984, the struggle for Khalistan was lauched when the Indian Government attacked Sri Dabar Sahib. This is according to the words of Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale.

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All Sikh Jujharoo (freedom fighting) organizations are struggling for the establishment of Khalistan. What objective are you trying to define?

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Does this Sikh Convention want to put the Sikh Nation at the mercy of those so-called Sikh leaders who assisted the Government in the assault on Sri Darbar Sahib, Sri Akal Takht Sahib, and the destruction of hundreds of Saroops (of Guru Granth Sahib Ji), and the elimination of thousands of Singhs, Bibis, and children?

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Singh Sahibs, we smell the stench that you have joined the Center, who is all too eager to appease the Jujharoo Singhs on the basis of Sri Anandpur Sahib Resolutions. You are now speaking of defining goals, if you still have not understood the goals of the Panth, then what else can the Panth expect from you?

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Singh Sahibs, time will expose the truth. Is it not your intention at this program to weaken the resolve of the Sikh organizations fighting for Khalistan, and create chaos in the Sikh community?

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Do you still have faith in the Indian Government? The same government that is actively destroying and eliminating Sikh institutions, the Sikh identity, and Sikh culture?

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If you still have faith in such a Government, then there is no one who is in a dark pit than you, regardless of how high your current position is.

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All Sikhs respect Sri Akal Takht Sahib, and the positions of the Singh Sahibans, but no one will be allowed to become a government stooge while holding such a respectable position. It needs to be made clear that only those Singhs can serve the Panth that are ready and willing to sacrifice everything for the sake of the Panth.

Regardless of the strong opposition by Baba Manochahal and other Jujharoo Singhs, the Ragi and the convention organizers passed resolution that would attempt to derail the Khalistan struggle by redefining it as simply a movement for further autonomy for Punjabis in the current Indian framework.

The next day Punjabi papers eagerly flashed the redefined objective by the Jathdars all over the front-pages. It seemed like the first steps of the Government planned coup to hijack the Sikh Freedom struggle from the Jujharoo organizations had been successfully accomplished – thanks to the Ragi, and his SGPC cohorts.

Front page of Ajit on the Ragi organized 'Sikh convention'

"ਸਿੱਖ ਕਨਵੈਨਸ਼ਨ ਦੇ ਪ੍ਰਸਤਾਵ"

"ਸਿੱਖ ਪੰਥ ਭਾਰਤ 'ਚ ਅਜ਼ਾਦੀ ਨਾਲ ਰਹਿ ਸਕਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਖਿਤੇ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤੀ ਲਈ ਸੰਘਰਸ਼ ਕਰੇਗਾ"

"ਖਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ ਦੇ ਮਾਮਲੇ ਤੇ ਮਤਭੇਦ - ਅਜ ਹਥਿਆਰ ਨਹੀਂ ਵਿਚਾਰ ਕਾਰਗਰ : ਸਿੰਘ ਸਾਹਿਬ"

“Resolutions of the Sikh Convention"

"Sikh Panth will struggle for the region inside India where they can have automony."

"Disagreement over the issue of Khalistan – Diplomacy more effective than Weapons: Singh Sahib”

(Translation of Ajit newspaper headlines from August 5th, 1997)

In a seperate audio, Baba Gurbachan Singh Mahochahal shared his views on the treachary by the Ragi and his predecessors.

Voice of Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal:

(click to listen)

“The Ragi backtracked on his promise to uphold the resolutions on Khalistan, and has walked away from his duty. The Kharkoo Singhs put their trust in him, but he failed them. The Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib not be a person controlled by the Government.”

- Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal

Bhai Daya Singh was later killed by the Indian forces near the village Jandiala Guru. Many members of Bhai Daya Singh's family were also killed in the coming months. Baba Gurbachan Singh Monchahal was killed in February 1993.

News report of Bhai Daya Sinh's Shaheedee

Babbar Khalsa Deputy-Chief Dissociates from Ragi

When it became clear that the Ragi was working in the interest of the central government, activists of the Babbar Khalsa International, who like other Jujharoo organizations had originally supported the Ragi in his early days at the Jathedar, also became suspicious of his activities.

An incident narrated by Babbar Khalsa International Deputy-Chief Bhai Sulakhan Singh Babbar stands out. Bhai Sahib was the main liaison between the Jathedars and the BKI leadership. During the late 1980s, Bhai Sulakhan Singh had made a surprise visit to the residence where Ragi Darshan Singh was staying.

Babbar Khalsa Deputy Chief Sulakhan Singh Babbar

had chastised the Ragi for violating Sikh Maryada

When Bhai Sulakhan Singh entered the Ragi’s residence he discovered that the Ragi was in the middle of a meal that included objectionable items, including eggs and omlet. Being a Rahitvaan Singh Bhai Sulakhan Singh immediately scolded the Ragi for being an Akal Takht Jathedar and violating the Sikh code of conduct. The Ragi defended the consumption of meat and stated they were considered Jhatka and thus allowed by the Panth. Bhai Sulakhan Singh further scolded him for making up such excuses, and for betraying the sacred position of the Takht, and stated this would be the last time he and the BKI organization would communicate with him.

Bhai Sulakhan Singh immediately left the Ragi’s residence in disgust, and avowed that no members of BKI would ever keep any communications with Ragi or recognize him as a Jathedar since he had violated Sikh Rahit Maryada. Babbar Khalsa Singhs were known for their strict rahit, and would not allow anybody to enter the organization who was lax in the Sikh code of conduct. The organization believed that a Sikh who could not stay true to his Guru and His Rahit, would not stay true to the Sikh Nation and it's cause.

Interestingly, over the years further information has come out about the offensive dietary habits and shady morals of the Ragi, including the consumption of alcohol. Now he is often referred to as a "ਸ਼ਰਾਬੀ-ਕਬਾਬੀ ਜਥੇਦਾਰ" due to such transgressions.

One can only wonder how a man who had no commitment and devotion for the Panth, and lacked basic Rahit of Sikhi could hold such a position in the Sikh nation? There is no question that the Ragi was unfit to lead the Sikhs during those turbulent times. So why was a man who has no religious or Panthic loyalty installed at the Sikhs’ apex Takht? Perhaps it was for a different cause - to undermine the Sikh leadership of that time, and create chaos in the masses. Isn’t that what the Ragi is doing now? Undermining the Sikh leadership and creating chaos?

While determined GurSikhs sacrificed their lives for the Panth at that time, selfish individuals such as Ragi used the opportunity to gain personal wealth and fame, and continue to cause harm to the Nation. It is due to the traitorous actions of such people that the Sikhs are in this current state.

The echoes of the warnings given by the great Shaheeds Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal and Bhai Sulakhan Singh Babbar are as relevant as they were two decades ago. The question is - are we listening?

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[A_Sikh_For_Life]

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

You said it. You clearly have not learned from the results of what happened to all ancient religions.

I will repeat myself, Budha Bal(d)th Inder Singh, YOU ARE the worst enemy of the Sikh Path.

This is the outcome of your rantings in a Sikh youth forum who have recently turned themselves into sharia law mentality. They will be stoning people to death next. We already have a group of nihangs beating up a lone person. What next.? Smoking cannabis? Ignoring the sanctity of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee?

Another guroo??

I dont need to highlight whats wrong with the poster.

Edited December 28, 2009 by A_Sikh_For_Life

[amardeep]

I dont understand either why people call Dasam Granth their Guru when its clearly written in Sarbloh Granth that only Adi Granth is the Guru. However i dont think there is anything wrong in doing Parkash of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib

[shaheediyan]

Thats a minor issue Amardeep, one not even worth mentioning, it hides the real issues, which are that these naastiks want to remove Dasam Granth Sahib from the Sikh faith, this Guru Issue is what they hide behind and use to play with the Panths emotions.

Calling Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Guru is traditionally a Nihang tradition, people don't need to have to 'understand' everything, nor have justification for others rvaaj. Nihangs call Dasam Bani Guru out of their own prem and satkaar for their Master and Father, that should suffice. They don't enforce their practices on others, unlike these neophyte heretic fanatics.

[A_Sikh_For_Life]

Thats a minor issue Amardeep, one not even worth mentioning ?????

Oh dear!!

[A_Sikh_For_Life]

anand bhia mayree mai ..I AM HIGH ON cannabis..

[Matheen]

I dont understand either why people call Dasam Granth their Guru....

The words, "Dasam Guru Granth" or "Guru Dasam Granth" mean 'Granth of the 10th Guru'.

'Sikh_for_life': I take it you are nigura - haven't received AMrit yet?

[DSG]

This is all confusing to a simpleton like me

Are we saying that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not enough for the sikhs to read , digest and act upon ? hence need Dasm Granth ?

Are we saying Sri Guru Granth SAhib is not complete , it will not make us better from within , final goal to merge with waheguru , therefore the need of Dasam Granth ?

Do get me wrong here I'm not anti anything , just some questions popping into my mind ?

If Sarbloh Dasm Granth mentions Guru dhee Guddi is givent to Adi Granth then why do parkash , and bhog of dasam granth ?

At the end of the day , I believe our main goal is to do bhagti ? , cleanse our inside , merge with waheguru cant we get this from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji ?

The biggest problem as someone has mentioned is that you'll get different sects being formed , the panth being split , and I believe the learned/scholars should do full santya of Dasam Granth , infront of the sangat who want to know and learn about the Dasam Granth .

Kema Dha Jachak heh

[Matheen]

This is all confusing to a simpleton like me

Are we saying that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not enough for the sikhs to read , digest and act upon ? hence need Dasm Granth ?

Of course it is enough, but are you saying we ignore the writings of Guru Gobind Singh Ji? What about Bhai Gurdas' Vaaran, Learning our history etc.

The reason for doing Parkash is because there is no other way to read it - it is still Guru Sahib's bani and must be respected. Bear in mind that Amrit can't be prepared without Dasam Bani, and without Khande Da Pahul, one is nigura, and you can read what Guru sahib says about people with no Guru.

[A_Sikh_For_Life]

one is nigura, and you can read what Guru sahib says about people with no Guru.

matheen veerji, There is no infidels or kaffirs in Gurmat.

Try doing some vichaar on Gurbani and understand what Gurmat is teaching us regarding this subject.

There are 2 types of people on earth - Gurmukh and Manmukh.

[Matheen]

matheen veerji, There is no infidels or kaffirs in Gurmat.

Bhen ji,

'Nigura' means 'without a guru'. From before the times of Sikhi, there have always been initiation rites for people who wish to dedicate their live to a guru. In Sikhi, the first 9 forms of Guru Ji used charan pahul, Guru Gobind SIngh Ji gave us Khande Da Pahul. Without this, one can not become a Sikh of Guru Sahib.

My point is that to become a Sikh of Guru Granth Sahib Ji, we need banis from Sri Dasam Granth. This fact alone means that it should be given the utmost respect.

There are banis in there that at first glance (or due to translations) may seem to be 'anti-gurmat'. A deeper reading and vichar reveals that they are, in fact, in line with Adi Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Vichar is done of all 5 vikaars - kaam, krodh, loh, moh and hankaar. We find it ok to speak of 4 of these, but are afraid to deal with kaam, or even accept it exists. It does, and Guru Ji has shown us how to be aware of it and get rid of it.

Also, the strongest proof that Sikhi is the 'third' panth, distinct from Hinduism and Islam, is found in Dasam Bani, in very blunt language that is irrefutable.

Arguing on forums doesn't achieve anything. There were 3 separate, well publicised events in the past week where parkash was done of Sri Dasam Granth and bani read. Not one person turned up to any of these to do vichar with or even to ask questions to the Singhs present - some of whom have studied Gurbani all their lives and have the knowledge and experience to put doubts to rest.

Edited December 28, 2009 by Matheen

[tonyhp32]

The words, "Dasam Guru Granth" or "Guru Dasam Granth" mean 'Granth of the 10th Guru'.

'Sikh_for_life': I take it you are nigura - haven't received AMrit yet?

So that means that Guru Granth Sahib means the Granth of the Guru? Therefore Guru Granth Sahib is not Guru. Stop playing word games. Either accept the Nihang belief that Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth as accepted as Guru hence their parkash and Akhand Path or accept that the Nihangs are doing things which go against the accepted belief that Guruship was given to ONLY Guru Granth Sahib.

[dalsingh101]

I don't anyone is trying to equate Dasam Granth to Sri Guru Granth Sahib, are they?

Hukumnamas from Akal Takhat are clear on the matter, Gurgaddi was given to Adi Granth, end off. That however shouldn't mean that people insult the Dasam Granth though.

And lets not use the words kaffir/infidel in our vocabularly please, we aren't Abduls.

Edited December 29, 2009 by dalsingh101

[shaheediyan]

Tony, there were 3 Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Akhand Paaths in the UK last week.

Instead of rattling your saucepans here, why didn't you do the right thing, and actually go and speak to our blessed guests from Hazur Sahib and Dal Panth that so graciously did this sublime seva for the UK sangat.

It seemes to me that you may be a victim of agoraphobia. But thats still no excuse to go around regularly passing the same crap comments on because you have been unable to, at the very least, get the other side of the story.

If wish to live with shankaa over Dasm Pitas bani, and the traditional way to respect it, present it to the sangat, then thats your God given right, just learn to accept that these tradition were around well before your great great grandfather and will be around long after your great great grandson. Live with it, and if you have any common sense and want their to be som unity in the Panth, learn to accomodate/tolerate the many faces of Guru Gobind Singh.

[singh2]

T

Message of sggs is spiritual and applicable to whole humanity.Message of dasam Granth is to organized sikh religion.

Sikhism is incomplete with one granth as nitnem banis prove that.

Yes both granths are needed. This is decided by our gurus when he baptised sikhs. There is no if and but on this.

Your repeated messages on this subject give us enough indication what you are.

puratan sikh traditions ackonewledge bhog of dasam granth. Heavens have not fallen if it is done.

That is what indian authorites tell sikhs since 1947. Do bhagti and forget shakti. Youb are just repeating that.

There are already many sects.The problem is that few gurnindaks with their leaders kicked out do not form their own sect.

[singh2]

So that means that Guru Granth Sahib means the Granth of the Guru? Therefore Guru Granth Sahib is not Guru. Stop playing word games. Either accept the Nihang belief that Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth as accepted as Guru hence their parkash and Akhand Path or accept that the Nihangs are doing things which go against the accepted belief that Guruship was given to ONLY Guru Granth Sahib.

Recognising Dasam Granth as our sacred scripture is not only Nihung belief.It is belief of kahsla panth.

With same nonsenseical logic that is forwarded against dasam Granth i ask where is it written in SGGS ji that it is our Guru?

[singh2]

Tony, there were 3 Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Akhand Paaths in the UK last week.

Instead of rattling your saucepans here, why didn't you do the right thing, and actually go and speak to our blessed guests from Hazur Sahib and Dal Panth that so graciously did this sublime seva for the UK sangat.

It seemes to me that you may be a victim of agoraphobia. But thats still no excuse to go around regularly passing the same crap comments on because you have been unable to, at the very least, get the other side of the story.

If wish to live with shankaa over Dasm Pitas bani, and the traditional way to respect it, present it to the sangat, then thats your God given right, just learn to accept that these tradition were around well before your great great grandfather and will be around long after your great great grandson. Live with it, and if you have any common sense and want their to be som unity in the Panth, learn to accomodate/tolerate the many faces of Guru Gobind Singh.

Shaediyan

People do not know head and tail about banis of dasam granth yet they have the courage to condemn it. Khalsa panth recognises Dasam Granth as bani of tenth master.Those who do not subscribe to this view may form their own sect.

Dasam Granth has been target of Indian authorities ever since sikhs rose against their atrocities in 1984.This was stated in Army magazine "Baat cheet". They wanted to finish amritdharis.Now they have many sikh agents propagating against this Granth.

First agent was police spy kala afghana. He is joined by missionaries, darshan singis, sell outs and manmukhs.

Edited December 29, 2009 by singh2

[Mithar]

Even though I’m a supporter of Sri Dasam Granth, but is doing an akhand paath of any granth other than SGGSJ in accordance to Gurmat? Charitro Pakhyaan for example is not Dur ki bani, but is literature written by Guru Sahib for Sikhs to study and learn from, and it should be studied privately amongst mature people who are mentally mature enough to understand it. Holding Akhand Paaths of Sri Dasam Granth are we not giving credibility to Kala Afghanists who shout around saying how we are trying to create a granth in equal status to SGGSJ.