Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?

[Sahib]

When i start meditating..i start hearing a high frequency like sound...or sometimes the sounds similar to noise comes from trees during night time..so shall i pay attention to such sounds or i should ignore them?

[Sat1176]

Ang441
The outgoing, wandering soul, upon meeting the True Guru, opens the Tenth Gate.
Dhaavat thamiH-aa satgur mili-ai dasvaa du-aar paa-i-aa.

There, Ambrosial Nectar is food and the celestial music resounds; the world is held spell-bound by the music of the Word.
tithai amrit bhojan, sahj Dhun upjai, jit sabad jagat thamih rahaa-i-aa.

The many strains of the unstruck melody resound there and always bliss, as one merges in Truth.
tah anayk vaajay sadaa anad hai, sachay rahi-aa samaa-ay.

Thus says Nanak: by meeting the True Guru, the wandering soul becomes steady, and comes to dwell in the home of its own self.
i-o kahai naanak satgur mili-ai Dhaavat thamiH-aa nij ghar vasi-aa aa-ay.

O my mind, you are the embodiment of the Divine Light - recognize your own origin.
man tooN jot saroop hai aapnaa mool pachhaan.

O my mind, the Dear Lord is with you; through the Guru`s Teachings, enjoy His Love.
man har jee tayrai naal hai, gurmatee rang maan.

Edited December 15, 2014 by Sat1176

[Sat1176]

I'm being super lazy and need good kick up the backside. Time to get on the road again back home to our Father.

Glad I read ang 456 again.

Make the effort, O very fortunate ones, and meditate on the Lord, the Lord King.
udam karahu vadbhaageeho simrahu har har raa-ay.

O Nanak, remembering Him in meditation, you shall obtain total peace, and your pains and troubles and doubts shall depart.
naanak jis simrat sabh sukh hoveh dookh darad bharam jaa-ay.

Chant the Naam, the Name of the Lord of the Universe; don`t be lazy.
naam japat gobind nah alsaa-ee-ai.

With each and every breath, worship the Lord in adoration; meditate on the Lord God in the mouth of your your mind.
saas saas araaDh har har Dhi-aa-ay so parabh man mukhee.

Prays Nanak: may I meditate on the Lord`s lotus feet, and not be lazy in chanting the Naam, the Name of the Lord of the Universe.
naanak pa-i-ampai charan jampai naam japat gobind nah alsaa-ee-ai.

The Purifier of sinners is the Naam, the Pure Name of the Immaculate Lord.
paavan patit puneet naam niranjanaa.

By the healing ointment of the Guru`s spiritual wisdom, one meets the Immaculate Lord God, who is totally pervading the water, the land and the sky.
gur gi-aan anjan parabh niranjan jal thal mahee-al poori-aa.

Wherever the Saints worship the Lord in adoration, there He is revealed.
jah jah sant araaDheh tah tah paragtaa-i-aa.

God blends Himself with His devotees in His natural way, and resolves their affairs.
parabh aap lee-ay samaa-ay sahj subhaa-ay bhagat kaaraj saari-aa.

In the ecstasy of the Lord`s Praises, they obtain supreme joy, and forget all their sorrows.
aanand har jas mahaa mangal sarab dookh visaari-aa.

Edited December 15, 2014 by Sat1176

[Sat1176]

The Word of the Shabad is ever in his heart; he is absorbed in the Fear of God, and he works to serve the Guru.
hirdai sabad sadaa bhai rachi-aa gur kee kaar kamaavai.

He remembers the One Lord, his mind does not waver, and he restrains its wanderings.
ayko chaytai manoo-aa na dolai Dhaavat varaj rahaavai.

He is intoxicated with celestial bliss, and is ever imbued with the Lord`s Love; he sings the Glorious Praises of the True Lord.
sehjay maataa sadaa rang raataa saachay kay gun gaavai.

The mind is like the wind, but if it comes to rest in peace, even for an instant, then he shall abide in the peace of the Name, O Siblings of Destiny.
manoo-aa paun bind sukhvaasee naam vasai sukh bhaa-ee.

With Guru's grace I have been blasting my mind with the gurmantar all weekend and reading gurbani. Mind feels exhausted and blank. Mouth has become super sweet again. Anyway this time going to swallow swallow swallow.

Edited December 15, 2014 by Sat1176

[Sat1176]

Some inspiring pangtis to make you want to jap Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru...

Ang 692

Says Kabeer, listen, O mortal: Renounce the doubts of your mind.
kahat kabeer sunhu ray paraanee chhodahu man kay bharmaa.
Chant only the One Naam, the Name of the Lord, O mortal, and seek the Sanctuary of the One Lord.
kayval naam japahu ray paraanee, parahu ayk kee sarnaan.
Within my mind is the wealth of the Lord`

hamrai man Dhan Raam ko naamaa.

The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; whoever seeks Him, finds Him there.
jo barahmanday so-ee pinday jo khojai so paavai.

Ang 696,

The Lord has kept this jewel hidden within my mind.
mayrai man gupat heer har raakhaa.

Ang 699

Chant the Glorious Praises of the Lord of the Universe, Har, Har.
har har gun govind japaahaa.
Conquering mind and body, I have earned the profit of the Shabad.
man tan jeet sabad lai laahaa.
Through the Guru`s Teachings, the five demons are over-powered, and the mind and body are filled with a sincere yearning for the Lord.
gurmat panch doot vas aavahi man tan har omaahaa raam.
The Name is a jewel - chant the Lord`s Name.
naam ratan, har naam japaahaa.
Meditate on the Lord of the world - meditate within your mind.
jap jagdees japa-o man maahaa.

Ang 700

Chanting the Naam, the Name of the Lord, the light of millions of suns shines forth, and the darkness of doubt is dispelled.
naam japat kot soor ujaaraa, binsai bharam andhayraa.

Peace and tranquility, poise and pleasure, have welled up within my mind and millions of suns, O Nanak, illuminate me.
saant sahj sookh man upji-o kot soor naanak pargaas.

This is a very deep pangti, how many of us really think or see like this? Now I'm beginning to understand once why a mahapursh explained in the advanced stages seva of waheguru is not only done with jaap but also using the eyes.

Serve the Lord forever; use your eyes, and see Him ever-present everywhere.
kar fakar daa-im laa-ay chasmay jah tahaa ma-ujood.

The True Creator Lord is diffused into His creation; He is not just the dark skinned Krishna of legends.
hak sach khaalak khalak mi-aanay si-aam moorat naahi.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Sat1176

[Truthseeker]

I saw this post on Facebook page Want to Meet God
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Want-to-Meet-God/277137818974862?sk=timeline&ref=page_internal

There was a conversation that we have forgotten...

It happened between the lord and our soul. Your and mine, before we were sent to this world. It ran something like this:

Lord said, "I am sending you into one of the many worlds that exist. You will play a game. There is only one thing which is definite in this game. The time you go and the time you will return."

"You will be given one house (a body) to live in, and you shall know that the body is not the real YOU, but merely a bunch of flesh, bones and blood, like anybody else's, who is also a player in the game."

"There is but one valuable thing that you should treasure, which is far more precious than all the wealth and jewels put together. It is the counts of breath (swaas) that i allocate to you. These cannot be changed or increased for all the money or power in the world."

The soul asked, "And what do i have to do while I am there?"

Lord Replied, "It is pretty simple - remember me (your father) and remember your path back home, so that you may be able to come back and visit me, whenever you feel like. You are my child, and if you fail to recognize me eventually or if you forget me you will loose the game."

"Only if you win the game, you will be able to come back the day you die. The day you die - will be your final exam. That is the day i will find out if you did what you had to do in a lifetime (remember your real parent and visit your real home often during your stay). ..because if you did, there is nothing that can stop you from coming home straight as your body stops functioning in the worldly fashion. All the same, if you forget me, then the devils will take you away and put you into one of the deserving lives according to your deeds - animals, plants, birds, insects, etc."

Home - Nij Ghar/Thir Ghar/Hari Ka Mandir
Way/Passage - Dasam Dwaar/Keshghar
Parent's Voice - Naam/Shabad/anhad baani
Food - Amrit
Parent's Fragrance - Best you have ever smelt

Mann tu Jot Saroop hai, apna Mool pehchan.
Mind you are the embodiment of Light, recognize your own origin

[Lunalon]

An indeed nice thread on meditative simran.

Well, I read in a book (Bhajan Bandagi Da Pratap,), that for a new Abhyasee, there is need of a 'pratibimb'-an object for concentration.

It can be either be a picture of Guru Sahib, or ik onkaar etc.

Also, I found it mentioned in the book that each person has his birth color. So, if he uses 'Waheguru' written in that color as a 'pratibimb' then it can be really beneficial for concentration. Talking more about colors, Sodi Harbhajan Singh Jee (the author) mentions that Sant Baba Attar Singh Jee (of Mastuana) used to advise the beginners to concentrate on 'Waheguru' wirtten in blue-red color while doing the Jaap. The abhyase should then close his eyes, and try writing 'Waheguru' in his 'trikuti'

(between eyes, above nose), with his 'surat' while japping. The reason for the bule-red color as given by the author is that blue and red are the extreme colors in the spectrum of white light; so these shall cover all colors. I did not understand much about the importance of color /pratibimb, and am still confused.

At some places he also mentions that 'listening' to the Jaap is essential. So where should one start?

Edited December 23, 2014 by Lunalon

[BhagatSingh]

So where should one start?

ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਦਿਨਸੁ ਰਾਤਿ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹਰਿ ਧਨੁ ਜਾਨੁ ॥

Ram naam nu din raat japo, es tara Gurmukh nu Hari de dhan bare pata lag jaunda hai.

Jap all day Lunalon. Whenever you remember it, start your Jap. Don't stop, keep going. If you lose track, get back to the Jap.

[Lunalon]

ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਦਿਨਸੁ ਰਾਤਿ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹਰਿ ਧਨੁ ਜਾਨੁ ॥

Ram naam nu din raat japo, es tara Gurmukh nu Hari de dhan bare pata lag jaunda hai.

Jap all day Lunalon. Whenever you remember it, start your Jap. Don't stop, keep going. If you lose track, get back to the Jap.

Yes that is ok. But do you have any idea of the colors/Pratibimb etc that I mentioned? I have read about these in Bhajan Banadagi Da Pratap.

[Sat1176]

Here you go

Due to my lack of experience in this stage of simran I sought guidance which I really don't want to elaborate upon on the internet.
But from the limited understanding I have gained these colours appear when the mind tries to cross the trikuti and the 5 elements.

Air - Green
Water - White
Fire - Red
Earth - Yellow
Ether/Space - Blue

During these stages one can come into contact with visions/forms etc which try and draw in the seeker to hinder the progress. It is not advisable to interact which such things. Our goal is to meet Waheguru nothing else no matter how attractive it may seem. That's what I been told and try to convince myself off along the way. Anyone can do what they wish but I believe if a person seeks guidance and you have faith/satkar for the person's experience and wisdom in such matters then you should follow their bachan's. I have been instructed not to look at it, so will not until instructed otherwise. Because in an earlier post I had wrote about the experience, being none the wiser I posted it. Now I know a little more I think it only right I clear up the mess so I don't lead someone astray. I'll be honest I will be reluctant to post personal experiences going forward, because I have no idea where i'm heading or what comes along the way. I don't want to be responsible for misleading people on a path which I'm not sure myself.
Bhagat Singh ji, from your posts I can tell your much further along and am grateful that you came on the thread with your views and words of encouragement even when I was doubting or questioning my own experiences. They have been reconfirmed as real and my doubt's that kept on creeping back eliminated. All I can trust at this stage is the gurmantar and the anhad shabad. Will continue to focus my attention on those and hope they take me home and leave the rest to the will of WaheGuru...

May Waheguru guide us all safely and correctly to his lotus feet.

Edited December 24, 2014 by Sat1176

[Sat1176]

Taken from Vaaran Bhai Gurdas ji

http://searchgurbani.com/bhai_gurdas_vaaran/vaar/1/pauri/2

ਪਉਣ ਪਾਣੀ ਬੈਸੰਤਰੋ ਚਉਥੀ ਧਰਤੀ ਸੰਗਿ ਮਿਲਾਈ।
Paoun Paanee Baisantaro Chauthee Dharatee Sangi Milaaee.
Air, water, fire and earth was put together.

ਪੰਚਮਿ ਵਿਚਿ ਆਕਾਸ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਛਟਮੁ ਅਦਿਸਟੁ ਸਮਾਈ।
Panchami Vichi Aakaasu Kari Karataa Chhatamu Adisatu Samaaee.
The fifth element sky (void) was kept in between and creator God, the sixth one, invisibly permeated among all.

SGGS Ang 415

This mind is born of the five elements.
ih man panch tat tay janmaa.

Ang 491

Listen to the sermon of the Lord, O mind, and enshrine the Shabad of His Word within your mind.
har kathaa toon sun ray man sabad man vasaa-ay

If your intellect remains stable and steady, then doubt shall depart from within you. ||1||Pause||
ih mat tayree thir rahai taaN bharam vichahu jaa-ay. ||1|| rahaa-o

Enshrine the Lord`s lotus feet within your heart, and your sins shall be erased.

har charan ridai vasaa-ay too kilvikh hoveh naas

If your soul overcomes the five elements, then you shall come to have a home at the true place of pilgrimage.
panch bhoo aatmaa vas karahi taa tirath karahi nivaas.

The body is formed from the union of the five elements.
panch tat mil kaa-i-aa keenee.
Know that the Lord`s jewel is within it.

tis meh raam ratan lai cheenee.

More:

Our body is made of five elements (water, air, fire, earth, and ether/akaash). Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Sukhmani Sahib very
elaborately describes the technique to transcend the Five Elements.

Air element: Guru Ji tells us how to concentrate the mind and transcend this element. The atmospheric air sometimes flows gentle and is at other times fast and stormy. The Pawan Tat (the air element) within the body behaves the same way. Its flow rises and ebbs. The unsteady behavior of air disturbs our mental equilibrium. We need Guru’s Shabad (Gurmantra) to steady and focus our mind in the vortex of wind within. Gurbani elaborates:

As a home is supported by its pillars, so does the Guru's Shabad support the mind.
(SGGS 282)

Water element: As a boat is needed to cross a river; so, is the Guru’s Shabad needed to ferry mind across the water element within this body. Gurbani says:

As a stone placed in a boat can cross over the river, so is the mind saved, grasping hold of the Guru's Feet (Gurmantra).
(SGGS 282)

Fire element: To protect ourselves from the atmospheric heat, we seek shelter in the shade. We do have the element of fire within the body. Guru’s shabad provides shady shelter to our mind and protects it from the heat of the fire within. Gurbani says:
Where there is awesome and terrible heat and blazing sunshine, there, the Naam of Truth will give you shade.
(SGGS 264)

Dharti Tat (earth element): As we need light to go through darkness; so we need light of Guru’s Shabad to see our way through the darkness of this earth element within. Gurbani says:

On that journey of total, pitch-black darkness, the Naam of Truth shall be the Light with you.
(SGGS 264)

Sky element (ether): Space is infinite and distances very long. Embarking upon a long journey we need food and water for survival. To complete this long journey within the inner space, we need Guru given food of Shabad. Gurbani says:

On that path where the miles cannot be counted, there, the Naam of Truth shall be your sustenance.

(SGGS 264)

Bhai Gurdaas has also written on the subject of overcoming the influence of the five Elements.
Gurmukh goes beyond air, water, fire, earth and sky.

Edited December 24, 2014 by Sat1176

[Sat1176]

Was just reading "Forgetting the way of Love" and came across the following which is relevant to the stage of seeing colours.

Gurbani tells us:

He has no form, no shape, no color; God is beyond the three qualities.

roop na raykh na rang kichh tarihu gun tay parabh bhinn.

SGGS 283

Like our mind is attracted to this colorful world, we also are attracted to the colors of the elements on the way to our home. If you put your dhyaan on the trehkuti different colors will appear. These colors such as red, green, white, yellow and black are the colors of the various elements. These elements revolve around Naam. Those who focus on these colors during meditation mistakenly believe they have become enlightened. In ignorance, we continue to look at the colours and if we focus intensely different forms begin to appear. For example, if the mind is focused on the Gurus, Jesus, different demi-gods or holy books Maya will create these forms and put us into an illusion. We mistakenly believe we have reached a high stage or have reached the tenth door. In Gurbani we have been explained that God has no color, cast, creed, shape, or size. Reaching the stage of these colors does not mean we have reached our final destination. The area where the colours appear is known as the city of illusion or Gandharab Nagari (Harchanduari). It too is a net of Maya.

The way of spirituality based on Naam is different from this city of illusion. We need to leave these colours behind both in the material and subtle forms. Initially when starting meditation, do not focus on the trehkuti.

Gurbani explains that at the tenth door are the divine words or the divine music (anhad Shabads or anhad bani). There is no color, pictures or forms there. Gurbani has changed our path from Maya (illusion) to Naam. For example, a child can be distracted all day with colorful toys and different games and it will forget to eat its food. Similarly, the mind watches the colorful acts of Maya and forgets about its food. The mind that is stuck in these illusions does not want to leave Maya and reluctantly falls asleep. People may

believe the mind of such a person has gone to Smaadhi and they presume they have attained a high spiritual stage. But Guru teaches us that this is the last stage of Kaal and it has to be crossed by Naam. After crossing this stage we can enter the Tenth Door and then true enlightenment begins. That light will be the light of our soul, which has been explained to us in Gurbani as:

Within the Gurmukh is intuitive peace and poise (Sehaj); his mind ascends to the Tenth Sky of the Akaashic Ethers.

gurmukh antar sahj hai man charhi-aa dasvai aakaas.

No one is sleepy or hungry there; they dwell in they dwell in the peace of the Naam (word of God).

tithai ooNgh na bhukh hai har amrit naam sukh vaas.

O Nanak, pain and pleasure do not afflict anyone, where the Light of the Supreme Soul, illuminates.

naanak dukh sukh vi-aapat nahee jithai aatam raam pargaas.

SGGS 1414

Edited January 6, 2015 by Sat1176

[Truthseeker]

Waheguru

[sukhpreet29]

Nice experiences !! Still there are soo many naam jappan valiya roohan. Mr. sat have u ever had darshans of gurus and mahapurakhs in dreams or reality. Because i have heard those who do lots of kamaayi waheguru starts giving him/her darshan in sargun form first after that nirgun stage comes. I know a guy from nanaksar samprada he is having darshan of gurus,krishan ji,ram ji,and various sikh as well as mahapurakhs from other faith. He told that he has often times darshan of baba nand singh ji and soo many other mahapurakhs of our faith as well as other. I asked him what about pratakh darshan and he told thats wat he is waiting for but babaji guides him in dreams,answers his queries about this sadhna marg in dreams. His awastha is on bhawar guffa. The dark void kind whole you are talking about is bhawar guffa. And other surprising thing is that he has now recalling his previous lives. N This detachment thing is happening with him also. He doesn't feel love and attachment for her family as well as other Near and dear ones. He said whom should i consider my real parents . Ma n pa of this birth,or of previous birth or even previous to previous one. Read the literature of SWAMI SIVANANDA SARASWATI. He has written alott about self realisation marag and experiences we come across during this marag in a very simple manner.

[sukhpreet29]

When that kedarnath disaster happened in june 2013 in india.. Few months before Guru gobind singh ji gave him darshan in dreams. He told he was lying in the lap of guru ji at hemkunt sahib gurudwara and mountains were falling and ppl were running. When he woke up he found the dream quite strange but when in july this disaster actually took place he was there in hemkund sahib n all this happened. And u r saying that sat ji k maya takes form of gurus or jesus. No this is not true. waheguru has three forms sargun,nirgun and shabad roop. Whenever he has to incarnate himself on earth he takes the sargun form smtyms in roop of awatars,smtyms gurus or smtyms mahapurakhs. There is no difference between waheguru and his saints(enlightened beings). When there is mahaparlo then there is just nirgun waheguru he waheguru everywhere. Even now he is there. But we can have his darshan in saints like sant isher singh ji rara sahib And many more. I'M not kamaayi vali like u satji but i had and have sangat of pooran purushs who told us sooooo much. and made us experience soo much. im getting motivated from u too to do kamayi

[hsingh6]

Sukhpreet29 ji, the aslee Kamaiyee valeah Mahapurakh will always tell you that there is a "purdah" between the Guru and his kamayee Valaa Sikh. Such sikhs will NEVER disclose their conversations with Guru Sahib. They may at best encourage you to engage in regular paath and simran and drop some hints about what may happen if Guru does kirpa on his Sikh. Knowledge of past lives and future events are known even to any ordinary human being with some meditative practise. The book, Many lives, Many Masters by Dr Brian Weiss will tell you this

[Sat1176]

Dearest Sukhpreet ji,

I have had dreams in which I have seen mahapursh and some I have met physically, I can't say I'm very close to any and that I have a personal relationship with them. Yes I do try and attend sangat of any that I can. What I do not know is if visions in sleep were just dreams or actual visions of some kind. I try not to dwell on that stuff anymore. My focus now is only the gurmantar and anhad bani that Sri Guru Granth sahib ji stresses upon so much. I have also heard stories of people having darshan in meditations, then riddhiasiddhia started, then those same beings started harassing the meditator. So I am not so keen on that side of things.

Yes certain groups do place a lot of focus on sargun darshan and each have their own path. I have great respect for all but I like to focus on the path of shabad guru surt dhun chela as that is what works for me.

My understanding of Bhanwar Guffa is that it is a tiny passage/tunnel that leads from the agya chakra between the eyes up to the top of the head. One can only enter this tunnel when they see the light of the bindu, dot or mustard seed. It is a very high avasta. This is way beyond my own practical experience so can't really say much more as it's only theoretical knowledge.

Glad you feel motivated by everyones posts here. This forum is blessed with loads of naam jappan wali rooha and we are all here to help and share with each other. Please do start walking on the path towards Waheguru and we truly wish you every success.

WaheGuru

Edited January 11, 2015 by Sat1176

[sukhpreet29]

Sat ji ru baptized or u have attained such high awastha just by naam japp

[sukhpreet29]

Im asking just coz some ppl say infact most of them say that till the tym we don't get baptized we can't attain success in naam japp & can't attain the nirvikalap samadhi

[sukhpreet29]

Yes hsingh ji.. such puran brahmgyaanis r hard to find nowadays. Fortunately I came across one such but now he is in sachkhand. Sometimes he visits me in dreams

[Sat1176]

Sat ji ru baptized or u have attained such high awastha just by naam japp

No I have not been blessed with Amrit yet and I have not attained any high avasta and struggle to jap naam everyday. What ever little experiences I have had has been with WaheGuru's grace and japing of the gurmantar "waheguru" even which I have not directly recieved from the panj pyare. So in that regards, I am also a thief! But on the other note when was the Lord or his name only been for one particular group. Waheguru resides in us all and is everywhere. The problem is we cannot see him in ourselves or in others.

I am a manmukh through and through and a paapi like no other.

Poeple say a lot of things to get someone to take Amrit, and you can believe what you wish. But the bottom line is one should partake in the amrit ceremony out of love for their Guru. I hope one day I too will have that much love in me where I can surrender my mind, body and soul before the Guru. I try not put so many barriers or conditions in my head that if i don't do this or I don't do that I won't get this or I won't get that. I already have enough thoughts in my head as it is, that I can't always even hear the word waheguru, when I say it. My mind takes so many flights of thoughts.

Im asking just coz some ppl say infact most of them say that till the tym we don't get baptized we can't attain success in naam japp & can't attain the nirvikalap samadhi

If I start adding even more views like this then I'm piling on even more dirt and barriers to an already filthy mind and I have given up before even starting. We can worry about Nirvikalap samadhi when we get there. I don't even know how to listen to the Gurmantar without the mind wondering occassionally and doing its own thing. Nirvikalap samadhi is long way away.

I can tell you I have seen monay lads japping waheguru and reaching higher avasta then someone wearing full bana with all their shastar on display. I don't mean any disrespect towards them but being an Amritdhari does not always grant you the boon of being spiritually adept. Yes one may have enrolled in the school of gurmat but have they started studying now? The point I'm trying to make is without offending anyone is, don't always judge a book by it's cover. The moment we all close our eyes and start to make the inward journey to find Waheguru we are all alone in that dark place with only our mind, awareness, thoughts and gurmantar for company. We leave all external things behind. That is when the true spiritual battle begins.

If one is Amritdhari then good for them as they are blessed. However not being an Amritdhari should not be an excuse for not remembering Waheguru and trying to do some kind of bhagti.

God bless

Edited January 12, 2015 by Sat1176

[sukhpreet29]

Woww sat ji.. that's even more motivating.. I always used to get disappointed whenever I used to hear such things from so called parcharaks and people. Hearing thr such views I used to feel low that whatever naam japp I do guru ji is not acceting it coz its maryada to take khande baate da amrit. But now knowing ur experiences and u im feeling guru ji accept love and sacrifices(means sacrificing sleep, comfort and worldly desires)

[sukhpreet29]

Sat ji could you please let me know a bit about ur daily routine of simran.. how and when it all started. . ?

[Sat1176]

Don't worry about my routine, you just worry about yourself and do as much as you can.

[sukhpreet29]

Satji i was not testing u or wateva u misunderstood. . I just asked so that I could get a bit light to mould my jiwan by getting a bit prerna.. im sorry if u felt bad