Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?

[Charu]

That’s amazing Sat I think you are very blessed. Do you feel the ananda too ? It’s better to cultivate gunas side by side Bandgi it helps lots of seva and Daya. Still you are incredibly fortunate. I too practice bandgi it’s very powerful. I have experienced stuff too I’m turning my visions to poetry on beloved Guru sahibans. Our Guru is so mysterious and wonderful. I don’t notice as closely as you I just sit in the aradhana. 

[Charu]

The discipline of the mind is very important basically mind management. It happens with extreme daya, deep love, mantra and Shabad practice intensive, watching your thoughts checking them all the time like a monitor in the mind, practising patience and kindness with people and yourself. More and more Shabad. Checking anger and not letting it out. Be celibate as far as possible even in a marriage. Many ardas’s to the Guru. Mool mantra jap releases Daya swimming in it. Mool mantra and Ik Ongkar satgurprasad jap for Daya. Gobindey Mukundey mantra practice for Dhan spiritual and worldly and love.  I hope this helps I have a Babaji guiding me he is a repository of knowledge on the practice. 

[KshayRaraSahib]

3 hours ago, Sat1176 said:

No I have not, but few months ago may have experienced it. I was doing simran in the early hours when I started going within, leaving body awareness. When my consciousness awoke on the other side, it could hear some jumbled sound and it immediately identified it as naam and my surti started listening to it somewhere in front of my forehead. As the surti listened it began to be taken along up but behind my head. There the sound was merging with a small white spot. However as my surti got close to the spot and tried to go through or touch the spot forcefully it would be pushed away like magnetic repulsion. My surti tried to move towards it multiple times. The repulsion was so strong my body was pushed forward and I began rocking back and forward as repeated attempts were made subconsciously to get closer to this white spot, moon whatever you want to call it.

After a few failed attempts I awoke from the state wondering what was happening as I was rocking backward and forward.

My teacher said your mind was still not pure and thoughtless enough that is why I never got closer or went through. 

Mind is still the size of an ">. More bhandagi required.

 

Do you practice saas saas Simran during the day?

[Sat1176]

2 hours ago, KshayRaraSahib said:

Do you practice saas saas Simran during the day?

Sometimes. Not as much as I should. Very easy to get pulled back into Maya and lose focus. But sometimes Waheguru ji does nadar and makes me remember to return back to his simran. 

[Sat1176]

Very pleased to read that you guys are keeping this thread alive. Keep up the great seva ji. Waheguru ji bless you all on your journey's. We all learn from each other.

[KshayRaraSahib]

4 minutes ago, Sat1176 said:

Sometimes. Not as much as I should. Very easy to get pulled back into Maya and lose focus. But sometimes Waheguru ji does nadar and makes me remember to return back to his simran. 

Hanji this is what my daily life looks like loll, school is very distracting for me!

[KshayRaraSahib]

3 minutes ago, Sat1176 said:

Very pleased to read that you guys are keeping this thread alive. Keep up the great seva ji. Waheguru ji bless you all on your journey's. We all learn from each other.

I love this thread because it's very inspiring, I've read so many posts from HisServant ji and Lucky ji and you, you're all so inspiring it's mindblowing!!

[Charu]

14 hours ago, Sat1176 said:

Very pleased to read that you guys are keeping this thread alive. Keep up the great seva ji. Waheguru ji bless you all on your journey's. We all learn from each other.

Sat and Lucky I just needed to consult you now this Nad you hear do you continue to do Jap when u hear the Nad or do you only hear the Nad? Does one hear the Nad after paying attention to the universal coo in the ears? Or is Nad born of intensive mental naam practice ? Sorry for asking and bothering you with my queries. 

[KshayRaraSahib]

5 hours ago, Charu said:

Sat and Lucky I just needed to consult you now this Nad you hear do you continue to do Jap when u hear the Nad or do you only hear the Nad? Does one hear the Nad after paying attention to the universal coo in the ears? Or is Nad born of intensive mental naam practice ? Sorry for asking and bothering you with my queries. 

From what I’ve heard in the beginner stages of Anhad we shouldn’t focus on it, we should move to rom rom Simran and once rom rom Simran is perfected, then we should focus on the Anhad shabad.

[KshayRaraSahib]

2 minutes ago, KshayRaraSahib said:

From what I’ve heard in the beginner stages of Anhad we shouldn’t focus on it, we should move to rom rom Simran and once rom rom Simran is perfected, then we should focus on the Anhad shabad.

And we shouldn’t put our goal on Nad, we should just have prem for Waheguru Ji instead of craving for experiences. They’ll come to you naturally just don’t focus on getting them. 

[Charu]

18 minutes ago, KshayRaraSahib said:

And we shouldn’t put our goal on Nad, we should just have prem for Waheguru Ji instead of craving for experiences. They’ll come to you naturally just don’t focus on getting them. 

Baba ji who guides me told me Naad happens but focus should be on Naam and Guru Bhakti. He also said the Anhad naad really manifests in advanced stages like what Sant Atar Singh ji Maharaj experienced after intensive samadhi. He said as we advance we can hear little doses of it which are preparatory of what comes later. This only happens when the bani and Jaap runs like water within you and is constant. I am humbled by how far one has to go but little toddler steps is what I take. 

[Sat1176]

On 11/30/2024 at 4:10 AM, Charu said:

Sat and Lucky I just needed to consult you now this Nad you hear do you continue to do Jap when u hear the Nad or do you only hear the Nad? Does one hear the Nad after paying attention to the universal coo in the ears? Or is Nad born of intensive mental naam practice ? Sorry for asking and bothering you with my queries. 

Naad is very loud. You will know when you hear it because it will frighten you when it comes out of the blue the first time you hear it. Only experienced it once in my life and back then I didn't even know that was Naad.

[Charu]

7 hours ago, Sat1176 said:

Naad is very loud. You will know when you hear it because it will frighten you when it comes out of the blue the first time you hear it. Only experienced it once in my life and back then I didn't even know that was Naad.

That is amazing. I have been reading your posts they are a great resource Bhai sahib. I myself am discovering Shabad and its intense beauty. Just fascinated with it. I practice many Shabads each has a different intensity and energy of Prema Bhakti. 
Am looking for serious meditators to connect with and practice with. We should stay in touch

[Charu]

I have been trying for sometime to create a meditation group within Sikhi. It is proving very tough to do so. I’m not ungrateful I have such a group here but it’s Buddhist with some Hindus. None of my sisters or brothers. The energy can be incredible with such a group … when you meditate together you can experience dimensions. However it’s tough to find such people. I’m sure Khalsa sahib would become really close if one had a group. However I have been hitting road blocks ! For instance a group meditation at Golden Temple would be great but so far I’m persuading my Buddhist friends to come. The thing is their meditation and ours is different. I guess this will happen only when he wills it. The Great Guru is beyond compare

[KshayRaraSahib]

19 minutes ago, Charu said:

I have been trying for sometime to create a meditation group within Sikhi. It is proving very tough to do so. I’m not ungrateful I have such a group here but it’s Buddhist with some Hindus. None of my sisters or brothers. The energy can be incredible with such a group … when you meditate together you can experience dimensions. However it’s tough to find such people. I’m sure Khalsa sahib would become really close if one had a group. However I have been hitting road blocks ! For instance a group meditation at Golden Temple would be great but so far I’m persuading my Buddhist friends to come. The thing is their meditation and ours is different. I guess this will happen only when he wills it. The Great Guru is beyond compare

I’ve been trying to find a spiritual Sikh group but online because here in Switzerland, it’s impossible to form a spiritual group in person loll. My only physical Sangat here is my dad or a gurdwara which is located a bit far from where I live (one hour by car). My dream is to be part of a spiritual Sikh group chat where everybody would tell their experiences, progress, challenges etc.

[Charu]

18 minutes ago, KshayRaraSahib said:

I’ve been trying to find a spiritual Sikh group but online because here in Switzerland, it’s impossible to form a spiritual group in person loll. My only physical Sangat here is my dad or a gurdwara which is located a bit far from where I live (one hour by car). My dream is to be part of a spiritual Sikh group chat where everybody would tell their experiences, progress, challenges etc.

That would be great. I live in India far away in a forest. The only Sikh spiritual company is Babaji when he visits. We should meet online and also plan meditation retreats where we can meet once a year and maybe we get a teacher. You guys could always meet Babaji but he is 85 and frail however he does seva in many places and is a rare mystic. Moreover he teaches. There maybe other Babaji’s to tap if they teach. Or it could be just the group we could exchange notes.

[KshayRaraSahib]

16 minutes ago, Charu said:

That would be great. I live in India far away in a forest. The only Sikh spiritual company is Babaji when he visits. We should meet online and also plan meditation retreats where we can meet once a year and maybe we get a teacher. You guys could always meet Babaji but he is 85 and frail however he does seva in many places and is a rare mystic. Moreover he teaches. There maybe other Babaji’s to tap if they teach. Or it could be just the group we could exchange notes.

Interesting ideas, I have a teacher Sant Baba Amar Singh Ji but they’re not the type to teach everybody. I’m interested in knowing more about your teacher, what’s his avastha? Also, It would be hard for me to go to India once a year because of my studies, but a group chat would be pretty cool.

As much as I’d like to have calls, I’m super awkward, I can only understand and barely speak Punjabi sadly (Because I was born in an European country and wasn’t taught to speak Punjabi by my Punjabi dad).

[Charu]

1 hour ago, KshayRaraSahib said:

Interesting ideas, I have a teacher Sant Baba Amar Singh Ji but they’re not the type to teach everybody. I’m interested in knowing more about your teacher, what’s his avastha? Also, It would be hard for me to go to India once a year because of my studies, but a group chat would be pretty cool.

As much as I’d like to have calls, I’m super awkward, I can only understand and barely speak Punjabi sadly (Because I was born in an European country and wasn’t taught to speak Punjabi by my Punjabi dad).

It’s ok this group will form only when it does we can interact on this platform meanwhile. Babaji is of a very high avastha he is in Jap day and night. He also does seva all over the country, Babaji is very humble he lives in a small Kurtis in Anandpur sahib and has deep knowledge of the abhyasa side. 

[KshayRaraSahib]

5 minutes ago, Charu said:

It’s ok this group will form only when it does we can interact on this platform meanwhile. Babaji is of a very high avastha he is in Jap day and night. He also does seva all over the country, Babaji is very humble he lives in a small Kurtis in Anandpur sahib and has deep knowledge of the abhyasa side. 

That's awesome man

[Charu]

On 3/25/2014 at 5:01 AM, Lucky said:

 

Totally agree

 

I mentioned the simran technique of the pavan(pran/life force) and navel, because I was trying keep basic/simple as to mention the beginning step of ultat and ALSO because... somewhere (I can't find or locate) i came across an explanation ....saying that before we are born, the Mind comes first (jyot saroop) with shabad/word and through a series of process leads to pavan/pran(life force for sustenance), such that this pavan is via the navel and umbilical cord whilst in womb. It explained in such a manner, as to state that the para, pasanti, madhma and baikhri happens in reverse order as to how we approach it with simran ..ie.baikhri 1st, then madhma..etc

The pavan is what we have to save and bank in the right place to get going towards Waheguru ji.

 

Thanks for that link on kundalini rising because it is valuable in the manner it simplifies the explanations....brilliant ! (one of the best i've seen so far)

Has anyone tried doing bij mantra jap or just Ik Ongkar and also gobindey mukundeyI particularly love these….

[Dharam Singh]

3 hours ago, Charu said:

Has anyone tried doing bij mantra jap or just Ik Ongkar and also gobindey mukundeyI particularly love these….

I do mainly Gurmantar and Bij Mantar. I have done Gobindey Mukundey, I have not tried just Ik Onhkar. 

[Charu]

1 minute ago, Dharam Singh said:

I do mainly Gurmantar and Bij Mantar. I have done Gobindey Mukundey, I have not tried just Ik Onhkar. 

I do lots of different mantras and shabads from Sikhi but gobindey mukundey is my basic practice. There is great Shakti in this mantra and it is beyond compare

[Dharam Singh]

13 minutes ago, Charu said:

I do lots of different mantras and shabads from Sikhi but gobindey mukundey is my basic practice. There is great Shakti in this mantra and it is beyond compare

Focused, pure and True. Indisputable. 

[KshayRaraSahib]

4 hours ago, Charu said:

Has anyone tried doing bij mantra jap or just Ik Ongkar and also gobindey mukundeyI particularly love these….

I do only Gurmantar.

[Dharam Singh]

11 hours ago, KshayRaraSahib said:

I do only Gurmantar.

Nobody can fault that. Gurmantar is King, Singh.