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11 hours ago, Guest Em Kaur said:

my advice to everyone is to stick to the teachings in Sikhi - there's no short cut and no better method of safely opening up your dasam duar.

 

Agree totally. Your advice is quite sound and justified, because the simran jaap as per sikhee mentioned by you above, is what will safely and surely take us to His abode.

For if Waheguru alone is our goal, then of course the wisdom of Guru Jee which is complete, is what is required to reach that goal.

Otherwise there are so many khands, so many realms, so many subtle planes...countless, to which we may reach mistakenly.

The teachings of Guru Jee are the purest and highest  which deal only with Sach Khand and Waheguru, so there is no chance of manmukhta nor mistakes.

It is Gurbani which tells us :

JIN HAR JAPEEYA SE HAR HOEEYA.

Let us ask ourselves, is there any other path which can reveal us such Truth in such a simple verse of 6 words only?

Wah Waheguru, wah Gurbani.

SSA.

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On 9/26/2020 at 11:21 PM, harsharan000 said:

 

Let us ask ourselves, is there any other path which can reveal us such Truth in such a simple verse of 6 words only?

 

Apologies, I shouldn't have used the word "advice", I am no position to give anyone advice (even myself, it would appear!), especially on a forum such as this 🙏

Wow - yes you are so so right though.  

On 9/26/2020 at 10:26 PM, Sikhilove said:

You’ll know when you’re ready for it. You need to leave duality behind and realise that the world is an illusion, it’s all just God, ie Nirboah and Nirvair. Fall in Love with Him. Then it’s not just a kundalini awakening, it’s Love. 

Fall in love with Him - that's what I should do you are right.  I'll be honest, I'm not sure how but I am trying. 

 

On 9/26/2020 at 10:25 PM, Sikhilove said:

You weren’t ready for it. Practice naam and applying gurbani more. I found that after my kundalini rose naturally and I was applying the gyan of gurbani to my life properly, doing naam simran properly etc, ie when my faith became unshakable, I did it again and it’s amazing. 
 

When I practiced kundalini yoga many years ago and had the rising, I wasn’t ready and hadn’t pushed through and become stronger in my faith and life yet. 

thank you - I have stopped doing any other form of meditations now, however, I do still struggle with the effects.  I was told that you shouldn't stop half way through an awakening so I carried on for longer than I should have done.  Since only doing naam simran and reading gurbani I've had some amazing experiences though, I feel as though sometimes time has completely stopped and the world has frozen.  I am also hearing sounds, so I am reading the other thread on here too.  At first I thought the Church near me was just doing a lot of bell ringing practice. 

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4 hours ago, Guest Em Kaur said:

Apologies, I shouldn't have used the word "advice", I am no position to give anyone advice (even myself, it would appear!), especially on a forum such as this

Guest Em Kaur Jee,

You don't have anything to apologize for, cause your advice is right and sincere.

Other thing is trying to impose one's point by force on others, which is clearly not your case.

So your advice is valuable and  most welcome, as it is understanding per sikhee.

SSA.

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On 10/8/2020 at 5:19 PM, Sat1176 said:

Subtle jugti of Saas saas simran revealed and how it helps balance the breath (sum the pavan/poan). 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9b_aHfDbjo

 

Taking it to the next level and becoming ik drisht explained and how to see mind’s jot.

 

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On 1/29/2014 at 10:24 PM, Sat1176 said:

After this when the seeker becomes full adept, he should concentrate his consciousness on the tip of the nose. At his point he would see strange supra-worldy sights and one acquires carious kinds of power. This practice will take some two years. But there is a supreme need to keep watch on the instructions ordained here. Eager enthusiasm is required beyond limit. Under these activities, one would see different kinds of lights, strange sights of secret worlds and hear strange musical strains.

Gone full circle.

Bhai Dharamjit Singh ji also hinting at same technique.

 

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On 8/26/2020 at 1:41 AM, Guest Guest said:

Even after anyone does Simran they sit in Silence, so I don't know what are you talking about? "Sukhman de Ghar raag sunn, Sunn Mandal live lai"  So many people do breath meditation never heard anyone saying its dangerous. what u mean by swallowed alive? Even Sikh Mahapursh we call them marr-jevrah. 

So they are dead while alive & live beautiful life. Some say when one gets enlightened they cannot handle energy. So if after grace, God gives darshan & we cannot handle it then I don't know how come that's true?? Is grace is there to kill us? "IF God is merciful why would it destroy us" I don't buy that.why He would reveal to us when God knows we cannot handle him. If we cannot handle God then why it is called Sat, Chit, Aanad.  

Some people use naam for selfish negative deeds. Look at Prophet Mohammed and some of the Hindu Gods and Goddesses. Many fall due to lust, lust for power, greed, anger, attachment, etc. Naam, simran can destroy you when you fall down the deep dark well of desire. 
 

However, walking in the straight and narrow path, applying Gurbani to your life, not being Seduced by Maya, you can live a life of contentment and Chardi Kala. 

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On 9/29/2020 at 7:35 PM, Guest Em Kaur said:

Apologies, I shouldn't have used the word "advice", I am no position to give anyone advice (even myself, it would appear!), especially on a forum such as this <img src=">

Wow - yes you are so so right though.  

Fall in love with Him - that's what I should do you are right.  I'll be honest, I'm not sure how but I am trying. 

 

thank you - I have stopped doing any other form of meditations now, however, I do still struggle with the effects.  I was told that you shouldn't stop half way through an awakening so I carried on for longer than I should have done.  Since only doing naam simran and reading gurbani I've had some amazing experiences though, I feel as though sometimes time has completely stopped and the world has frozen.  I am also hearing sounds, so I am reading the other thread on here too.  At first I thought the Church near me was just doing a lot of bell ringing practice. 

Well, you’re on the right path. Experiences like that propel you forward, giving you encouragement.

 

Regarding the Love, you’ll experience it for yourself. The more you practice Gurbani in your life, including daily life, the more you’ll recognize the love. It’s always there, we just often don’t see/acknowledge or accept it. 
 

Do naam simran from 12.30am. 2.5 hours is recommended...you’ll go into deep samadhi and knock out while doing it. But do at least half an hour. Relax and hear the ringing sound (Anhad Naad), and let the samadhi/deep meditation take you. Read Guru Granth Sahib, and understand it... it’s there for your taking, it’s all you need, esp mool mantar.
 

Practice Truth/gyan of gurbani during your daily life.. be good to others, kind, compassionate, forgiving without enmity, strong willed, fight until you win when you should, be a Warrior Spirit and a Good Soul. 

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10 hours ago, ragnarok said:

Would jus tlike to point out that i'ts not possible to use naam for ego. We shouldn't confuse gyaan and ridh-sidh with naam.

Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.

Verily true. 

As long as one is in ego, there is no trace of Naam. 

Only when one subdues the ego, then the Jot and dhun of Naam permeates and luminates our being.

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On 10/10/2020 at 12:05 AM, Sat1176 said:

Gone full circle.

Bhai Dharamjit Singh ji also hinting at same technique.

 

Now listen to what Bhai Simranjit Singh ji is teaching on the subject.

 

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On 10/12/2020 at 11:39 AM, ragnarok said:

Would jus tlike to point out that i'ts not possible to use naam for ego. We shouldn't confuse gyaan and ridh-sidh with naam.

 

Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.

You can practice Naam, reach a place where you have followers, people who would literally die for you, and use that for evil. You can do naam simran and commit evil deeds...as many before us have done and I’m sure many will continue to do so.
 

Many fake babas have practiced naam simran and lured women and children into sexul assault, committed unimaginable sadistic and sick acts. Its happened for thousands of years. It is possible, and with that, comes a beings deep decline into the pit of maya.
 

Naam is a gift to be practiced with integrity whilst walking in the straight and narrow path. Misused, it can have devastating effects. 

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Condensed Quote from Raymond Kinman who had a near death experience :

Brother, life is VERY realistic... but it ain’t real.  None of this is real.  I don’t put much stock in the idea that this world is all there is.  This is a very, very small part of the infinite whole.

I like to think of myself as an actor in a play.  I am playing a very small, but very important part in this play.  This is not real, it is just a very realistic drama.  A play.  A movie.  

This movie is a place where God can pretend that he is not God.  

God isn’t a person.  God is everything and everyone who has ever been.  Every tse-tse fly and bacteria.  Every stone and all the cosmos.  We are all God.

You have forgotten who you really are.  You are an infinitely powerful being.  You have a purpose in life but you have forgotten what it is.

You are here to Love.

 

Peace,

Raymond

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12 hours ago, ragnarok said:

You can achieve power by practicing mantras. In english you could say that you 'sidh a mantra'.

As I mentioned above:

Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.

 

If you practice a mantra, any mantra, with the aim of getting power, anger or anything related to the five thieves or ego then it is not naam. Naam is your 'true self', the Satnaam. Man tu jot swaroop hai, aapna mool pachaan.

 

The examples of abuse Sikhilove is making above refer to people who get some amount of power and use it for personal gain of some sort. Not all of them do so overtly, there are gupt ones who are potentially more dangerous. By definition this is not naam even though it may involve mantra simran. Not all mantra simran is naam simran.

 

I would say Sidhi refers to the power, which may or may not be used selflessly. In general Sikhs are not supposed to use these at all even though a Sikh will gain the ability to access them along the path (ridh sidh nav nidh) but should leave everything to Hukam, and approach Maharaj with Ardas in case there is any issue bothering the Sikh.

 

 

nice explanation

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23 hours ago, seattlesingh said:

How are Naam and Siddhi distinguished, do they come on the same path, or are the paths different? 

They are as different as North and South.

Nam is the only everlasting and changeless Truth, which can be described as a  supreme  consciouss creative power with infinite virtues, and among all of them  love and  mercy,  like cream on  milk, as per description by His Bhagat Jan, Gurmukhs and Guru Sahiban.

While riddhis and siddhis are just lifeless and consciousless energies without any virtues by themselves. 

Take for example a knife, which can cut vegetables to be eaten, or can be used to harm someone. 

So you see, while Nam/Shabad/Satnam is a consciouss life force of the highest order, riddhis and siddhis are inert in essence.

 

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