So Called Khalsa Fauj Was Beaten On Saturday At Troonto

[singh2]

I am informed that so called khalsa fauj was beaten by a singh at kala afghana center at Toronto. Khalsa fauj used to write his own poetry and say sarcastically that he has made his own Jap sahib.

Some of kala afghana cronies came to his aid but ran away and bolted kala afghana center from inside.

Does anyone have more information on this.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

I am informed that so called khalsa fauj was beaten by a singh at kala afghana center at Toronto. Khalsa fauj used to write his own poetry and say sarcastically that he has made his own Jap sahib.

Some of kala afghana cronies came to his aid but ran away and bolted kala afghana center from inside.

Does anyone have more information on this.

Total lies. No one even hit me, forget about beating. Ten to twelve goondas of damdami taksal and akj and tapoban were waiting outside Guruduara on the street for me to come out. I went out and they marched towards me. I went back in, dialed the police and went out. I said hit me so I could get you guys charged. They didn't hit me. They were a bunch of thugs who had no morals. They were using extreme foul language for old people too. They didn't even respect elders. They were nothing more than goondas of dhirmal who sent goondas to attack Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji. Here, Sikh of Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji was almost attacked. Inder is once again proven as a liar. I didn't even get a scratch. People love to lie and make up crap. Police came on the spot and I talked to police. Police has told me to dial 911 if I see those guys together again in my area or where I am. I am all set, cool and dandy. I would love nothing better than to get these thugs charged and have criminal records. They were given challenge to debate which they can't. They can only do goondaa activity because that is what they are taught and that is their history. Their history starts from dhirmal.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

This shows that you guys aren't capable of defeating me in debate and have only 1 thing left, indira style, aurangzb style, wazir khan style, dhirmal style, thug activity. You guys are worse than all those if you ask me. Since dhirmal was the worst of all those, that is what you guys are, dhirmalias.

[singh2]

They were nothing more than goondas of dhirmal who sent goondas to attack Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji.

It is foolishness to equate oneself with Guru sahib.

But the news of beating was emailed by one of your own friends. It started like this. You are on that mailing list too.

Email by a friend of Khalsa fauj

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I was not present there, however I have learnt that a group of Sikh has attached Harman Singh and his father at Sikh Lehar Gurudawra

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Edited January 19, 2010 by singh2

[The Khalsa Fauj]

I don't know who sent that email but my dad was pushed down by a dasam granth lovers. Attacking old people is something they like to cherish the most. I was attacked but not beaten because I called law right away. You guys are only increasing friction by attacking others. It isn't solving any issues. All you guys are doing is filling us with more dislike of DG and making us even more stronger in our beliefs. They also pushed down two other old people. I don't get emails from them and I don't email them. Police has informed me not to send emails to any of those guys here. Once again, I was attacked but not beaten. Also, why are you making a thread here? Trying to prove how big thugs pro DG people are? By the way, they couldn't bear to hear my dad's lecture and were begging him to stop because they knew it was hard truth. They won't attack again if they have any sharam dharam. Attacking someone is sign of defeat. That is why Guru Ji never attacked dhirmallias because Guru Ji had truth. How can I not give example from Guru? Did you complain about Manpreet Singh Kanpur comparing himself to sahibzadas? How about all those sant babas comparing themselves to Guru? You mind because it goes against your side's activities and shows it is nothing but anti-Gurmat. As said before, our mission isn't to wage war and act like taliban or al qaeda.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

By the way, I am no so called Khalsa but true Khalsa. I don't go attack other Sikhs or other Gurduaras.

[singh2]

They did not have any personal issue with you. The point here is that do not hurt others religious sentiments by passing slanderous comments on their scriptures.

This is something you should learn lesson from.

[Guest]

First of all, I like to say, what these people did to your father or yourself push or shove is totally uncalled for and very ungursikh like. Its natural you called police which any law abiding citizen would do in these kind of situation.

However, it also appears you using law as a token/shield to spread your parchar. I just like to remind you, have you read what Canadian laws says about hate speech against an group, hurting religious sentiments whether used in form of making blasphemous statements against scriptures. I like to remind you, it was same Canadian law who made fake guru narinder singh grewal run out of country because of serious charges against him. Do you realize, all it takes sri akaal tatkh sahib( sikh vatican) passing hukumnama that sri dasam granth sahib is sacred sikh text and passing a fatwa against anti parchars or anti parcharaks of sri dasam granth sahib, once its official you guys can be charged against hate crime laws in Canada which could stop you guys making blasphemous statements against sri dasam granth sahib?

I am surprised all these hot headed panthis would love to attack an lone man with his father didn't use that approach instead of restoring to bullying and violence.

[Mithar]

Khalsa Fauji, a true Khalsa would not run away from a fight even if he were faced by a Fauj of Sava Lakh. I don’t have one percent of respect for you as a person, but if you had stood your ground and fought like a true Fauji of the Khalsa then I would respect for you. Instead what you do is, you see a few Singhs waiting for you, getting scared you run away in panic into the Gurdwara and call the police with you trembling hands. Vah!! What a brave Fauji are!!! LOL!!

I’m sure 50 years from now Dhadhis will sing Vaaraan in praise of the bravery you displayed that day LOL!!!!

Although there is a contradiction in story. Your own supporter says that you were physically beaten up.

[singh2]

I am surprised all these hot headed panthis would love to attack an lone man with his father didn't use that approach instead of restoring to bullying and violence.

That is what he is saying. i do not believe what he says.

He was not alone. he had a band of friends to shield him . Singh who countered him was alone.

There is already a Hukamnama from akal takhat citing Dasam granth sahib as a sacred sikh scripture. It is our joint responsibility of sikhs to counter slandeous comments about Dasam Granth.It is not duty of any single group.

[singh2]

Khalsa Fauji, a true Khalsa would not run away from a fight even if he were faced by a Fauj of Sava Lakh. I don’t have one percent of respect for you as a person, but if you had stood your ground and fought like a true Fauji of the Khalsa then I would respect for you. Instead what you do is, you see a few Singhs waiting for you, getting scared you run away in panic into the Gurdwara and call the police with you trembling hands. Vah!! What a brave Fauji are!!! LOL!!

I’m sure 50 years from now Dhadhis will sing Vaaraan in praise of the bravery you displayed that day LOL!!!!

Although there is a contradiction in story. Your own supporter says that you were physically beaten up.

This is the real sum up by Mithar ji. His friend says that he was slapped.A khalsa does not go in hiding and lock the doors from inside.

[GuptSingh1699]

He didn't even get a scratch. Typical propaganda by DG chelas. Inder's favorite pasttime seems to be lying...

Calling police isn't cowardice, its a sign of intelligence.

[GillAUS]

Round these parts we call that 'snitching'.

[chatanga1]

By the way, I am no so called Khalsa but true Khalsa. I don't go attack other Sikhs or other Gurduaras.

no, you focus on attacking your guru instead.

[singh2]

His buddy was emailing that he was attacked in parking lot. I got that email. It says that he was slapped.

[tonyhp32]

His buddy was emailing that he was attacked in parking lot. I got that email. It says that he was slapped.

and you couldn't wait to come on here to ask for more info! You remind of the little kid who runs around the playground shouting "Fight! Fight!" when two of the bigger kids are having a fight. What a joke you are.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

First of all, I like to say, what these people did to your father or yourself push or shove is totally uncalled for and very ungursikh like. Its natural you called police which any law abiding citizen would do in these kind of situation.

However, it also appears you using law as a token/shield to spread your parchar. I just like to remind you, have you read what Canadian laws says about hate speech against an group, hurting religious sentiments whether used in form of making blasphemous statements against scriptures. I like to remind you, it was same Canadian law who made fake guru narinder singh grewal run out of country because of serious charges against him. Do you realize, all it takes sri akaal tatkh sahib( sikh vatican) passing hukumnama that sri dasam granth sahib is sacred sikh text and passing a fatwa against anti parchars or anti parcharaks of sri dasam granth sahib, once its official you guys can be charged against hate crime laws in Canada which could stop you guys making blasphemous statements against sri dasam granth sahib?

I am surprised all these hot headed panthis would love to attack an lone man with his father didn't use that approach instead of restoring to bullying and violence.

Who are 5 pujaris to tell Sikhs who their Guru is? I would not mind taking DG to court for even a bit because court won't be biased. Taking DG to court might be the only solution. We will also have to see if there are any stories in DG that contain child porn, if that is the case, then Canadian Law will ban it permanently. What do you say? You guys want to take DG issue to court? We sure don't mind. I am sure court will accept poet Shyam, Raam and Kaal as pen names.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

Khalsa Fauji, a true Khalsa would not run away from a fight even if he were faced by a Fauj of Sava Lakh. I don’t have one percent of respect for you as a person, but if you had stood your ground and fought like a true Fauji of the Khalsa then I would respect for you. Instead what you do is, you see a few Singhs waiting for you, getting scared you run away in panic into the Gurdwara and call the police with you trembling hands. Vah!! What a brave Fauji are!!! LOL!!

I’m sure 50 years from now Dhadhis will sing Vaaraan in praise of the bravery you displayed that day LOL!!!!

Although there is a contradiction in story. Your own supporter says that you were physically beaten up.

Gurbani says:

Kabeer Saakat Sung Na Keejeeaye Doorhe Jaaee-aye Bhaag so I went back in. By the way, were Sikhs cowards for going into jungles? What did you want from me? Fight them back and get a criminal record? No thanks. I stood there and they didn't hit me because some of them already have bad records. I wouldn't mind seeing them deported at all for causing problems in Canada. Many of them are blacklisted by Indian Government already so they will go straight to jail if they get deported.

It is best to be wise than be a thug. Was Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji a coward when Dhirmal attacked him and Guru Ji didn't attack him back? I know what you are trying to do and that is provoke me to fight. I will not attack anyone. I am not a thug and don't want to be labelled a thug. I don't believe in knocking off turbans as a moral lesson.

[The Khalsa Fauj]

no, you focus on attacking your guru instead.

My Guru is Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Could you show me where I attacked Guru Granth Sahib Ji? If I have, I will go to akaal takht personally and get tankah. Any tankah panth gives me. Please don't make false allegations. Poet Shyam, Raam and Kaal were never Guru, aren't Guru and won't be Guru. Please like you spread false propaganda and brainwash people into attacking and hating others.

[Guest]

Who are 5 pujaris to tell Sikhs who their Guru is? I would not mind taking DG to court for even a bit because court won't be biased. Taking DG to court might be the only solution. We will also have to see if there are any stories in DG that contain child porn, if that is the case, then Canadian Law will ban it permanently. What do you say? You guys want to take DG issue to court? We sure don't mind. I am sure court will accept poet Shyam, Raam and Kaal as pen names.

Court battle on debate over sikh scriptures? whats next?. Nevertheless, you are right court won't be biased, and you forgot to mention, court people are not idiots like you guys you like to nit pick and blow something out of context. Western academics know what should or should not be read in context. Anyway, Canadian courts are not interested in our petty internal affairs would be waste of tax payer money. I would suggest debate within sikh academia first, which you guys were challenged back in amritsar, India and you guys refuse to attend.

Ki gal chooriya paiiye hoii tuhaidaie? thenu patta ik aam banda india da canada ah nahi sakhda bina sponsership daie kanoon shakt han, us da jankaie faida utha kaie bakri wangu mein mein mein laa toronto aun di?

[The Khalsa Fauj]

Court battle on debate over sikh scriptures? whats next?. Nevertheless, you are right court won't be biased, and you forgot to mention, court people are not idiots like you guys you like to nit pick and blow something out of context. Western academics know what should or should not be read in context. Anyway, Canadian courts are not interested in our petty internal affairs would be waste of tax payer money. I would suggest debate within sikh academia first, which you guys were challenged back in amritsar, India and you guys refuse to attend.

Ki gal chooriya paiiye hoii tuhaidaie? thenu patta ik aam banda india da canada ah nahi sakhda bina sponsership daie kanoon shakt han, us da jankaie faida utha kaie bakri wangu mein mein mein laa toronto aun di?

Maybe you don't know but:

http://thekhalsafauj.blogspot.com/2010/01/challenge-of-dgs-accepted.html

The type of debate people came to have with me is the type of debate that these people probably want to hold in India. Debate challenge was accepted so now it is up to pro DG group to take the next step of declaring their scholars and accepting the location.

[dalsingh101]

People best think twice before dragging Sikh matters into courts and doing a public 'jaloose' of our quom. Khalsa Fauj, let people who want DG, have it, no one is forcing it on you are they?

[The Khalsa Fauj]

People best think twice before dragging Sikh matters into courts and doing a public 'jaloose' of our quom. Khalsa Fauj, let people who want DG, have it, no one is forcing it on you are they?

These guys have been. First they forced Dixie Gurduara to stop giving us room to hold discussions. Then they issued threats when Sikh Lehar Gurduara was about to open. They they spread lies on radio saying we serve meat and other things in Gurduara. Then they made plans to defame people who go to Sikh Lehar. Then they issued threats when Harjinder Singh Dilgeer came to discuss situation on what happened with Sikhs in 84. Then these guys came to attack me on Saturday. It wasn't an attack on me but an attack on all anti-DGs because I was attacked because I am anti-DG. Is this the type of law that will occur in Khalistan? How would it be different from al-qaeda? I think Khalistan be worse than Afghanistan.

[dalsingh101]

Khalistan isn't about to come about anytime soon so you don't need to worry about that.

On the other front, will pro Dasam Granth scholars be going to Haryana and debating? Can't we avoid any violence between ourselves over this matter?

We really have to get over the 'heavy' stuff.

A quick question if you will Khalsa Fauj, what do think of Jaap Sahib? I don't see anything within that gives any indication of it not being dasmesh pita's myself.

Do you not think ANY of the DG is from Guru Gobind Singh?

[Mithar]

These guys have been. First they forced Dixie Gurduara to stop giving us room to hold discussions. Then they issued threats when Sikh Lehar Gurduara was about to open. They they spread lies on radio saying we serve meat and other things in Gurduara. Then they made plans to defame people who go to Sikh Lehar. Then they issued threats when Harjinder Singh Dilgeer came to discuss situation on what happened with Sikhs in 84. Then these guys came to attack me on Saturday. It wasn't an attack on me but an attack on all anti-DGs because I was attacked because I am anti-DG. Is this the type of law that will occur in Khalistan? How would it be different from al-qaeda? I think Khalistan be worse than Afghanistan.

Ah! the truth finally comes out. Kala Afghanist movement is a creation of the GOI to weaken the Sikhs within, and destroy our aspirations for a politically independent Sikh homeland. First the Kala Afghanists start off by questioning Dasam Bani and then basic Sikh Sidhaants and now even our political aspirations. The Kala Afghanist movement is not alone in this. The Narakdharis, Radhasoamis, Noormahalias, Sacha Sauda are all movements designed by GOI to weaken and confuse the Khalsa Panth.