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What About Baba Jarnail Singh'S Views About Akhauti Jathedars?


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Lets put things in reverse what if a Jatherdar of Akaal Takht was Anti Dasam Granth, Im preety sure then any Dasam Granth supporters would have been Excommunicated from the Panth.

Would you Anti Dasam Granth supporters like to tell me about your stance on Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale?

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He stood up for Sikhs and gave shaheedi. Respect for that. He was dead wrong on Dasam Granth. Simple and clear as purified water.

One thing is clear, anti-DG jathedar wouldn't make up lies to excommunicate someone. Anti-DG jathedar would never use edited video to defame and excommunicate someone. Eho jhay chariters are reserved for charitropakhyan lovers.

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As the Jathedar of Damdami Taksal whose pupose is the propogation of Gurbani and as an avid supporter of Dasam Bani and its parkash, the Sri Dasam Granth Sahib issue is relevant if you wish to use Sant Jarnail Singhs name. If you are using Sant Jarnail Singhs voice there as you feel that he is authoritive commentor on Sikh affiars, that you cannot dodge issue of Dasam Bani - its parkash and his comments saying those who do not believe in it are nasstik.

We are looking at this in context, because the context is on the Nindia of Dasam Bani which Darshan Lal and his supporters have done. It is for this reason they have been kicked out of the Panth. So if you wish to use Sant Jarnail Singh in another one of your camps childish propoganda videos that his firm belief in reading and performing parkash of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji is entirely relevant. Everyone knows this, you guys are just making a mokery of yourselves.

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You people never get it. Point is if Jarnail Singh opposes jathedars, it is great. If someone else does, oh wrong, wrong wrong. Always crying and whining from your side. Point is taking a stand and living up to it which you guys clearly don't. You people use Akaal Takht when it suits you and ignore when it doesn't. Unless, Akaal Takht's pujaris fix their behaviour, we will call Sarbat Khalsa at some designated location and declare a proper jathedar of Akaal Takht.

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Biggest mockery is pro DGs using Kahan Singh Nabha for their own cause. He has been proven to be anti-Chariters and anti-Mahakal. Then on what grounds do you use his name? Who makes mockery of whom? Biggest mockery of ownself is reading sex stories as Gurbani. No bigger mockery in the world. Biggest mockery is crying Akaal Takht, Akaal Takht and not even following its maryada. Is Akaal Takht maryada implemented at Mehta or any other dera? The answer is no. Only reason you derawalas do whatever is because Akaal Takht jathedars are actually badal takht jathedars. You people thrash badal in foreign countries but suck up to him in India. Who are bigger hypocrites? These jathedars are anti-Khalistan yet you people fool Sikhs on name of Khalistan and loot their money. You people collected money on name of Khalistan in 80s and built mansion while those fighting for Khalistan got nothing. Some built Gurduaras and now live off Gurduara money. I give open challenge to live debate on who are true hypocrites and who are making mockery of themselves and truth.

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He taught about Dasam Granth what he was taught by Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwala. The same Gurbachan Singh who says Guru Har Rai had 8 wives and that the Kachehra of Khalsa is same as that of Hanuman. Gurbachan Singh

wasn't without mistakes.

This is not about his views on DG, on which I don't agree, but about Akhauti Jathedars, on which I do agree.

If we go by your logic, AKJ's and DDT's can't stand togheter on issue of Dasam Granth, because their views on Raagmala, Kes/Keski, etc differs.

Why are Nihangs and Taksalis united on the issue of Dasam Granth, when Nihangs love jhatka and weed but Taksal is anti Meat and anti weed?

Hypocrisy, no?

Respect for Bhai Jarnail Singh Ji for standing up for the panth and defending Sikhi and Harmandar Sahib, but this doesn't mean I see them as an incarnation of Guru Gobind Singh or God as some do. He was, afteral, a Human, and was free to have his own opinions, thoughts or interpretations.

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Your so called Sant samaj made own maryada in 1997 or something and said they reject Akaal Takht maryada. WHo made mockery then?

Your so called Sant samaj rejected Akaal Takht hukamnama saying no palallel parkash of DG saying we won't abide by Akaal Takht. Who made mockery then? Your Sant samaj rejected Nanakshahi calendar implemented in 2003, who made mockery then? Sant samaj is nothing but a joke. They are both types of jokes.

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LOL , P.darshan followers(a$$ lickers) , anti DG brigade are some seriously disturbed people! :D:D:D

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Nasty kid having nasty fantasies.

First it was mares in Chariter 68 of Dasam Granth, now humans. Very nasty indeed.

Admin Note: Please refrain from making bold statements. If you wish to debate charitars in details, please create another thread but this board will not tolerate bold statements made against sri dasam granth or its compositions.

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GuptSingh, is there any proof that the current Jathedars are under the influence of politicians? Don't forget that the first complaints against Darshan came from outside India, and a heck of a lot of Sikhs support the decision to excommunicate the lying idiot. Also, 2 of the Jathedars are from outside Punjab, so how much influence would Badal have?

It's no good making allegations without proof.

Sant Ji also calls people who don't believe in Sri Dasam Granth 'bemukhs', nastiks and cowards. I agree.

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did sant gurbachan singh really say that kachera is from hanuman?

Yes.

Read Gurbani Paath Darshan. 1969 Edition. Read page 62.

On page 36, it says that Farid started living in jungle and started eating leaves. He also got lice in his hair which his mother cleaned out. Such utter disrespect of great bhagat.

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Yes.

Read Gurbani Paath Darshan. 1969 Edition. Read page 62.

On page 36, it says that Farid started living in jungle and started eating leaves. He also got lice in his hair which his mother cleaned out. Such utter disrespect of great bhagat.

You're taking the Hamnuman thing out of context. As for Sheikh Farid, you really have no idea about history do you?

Can you tell me why you're a Sikh? What do you hope to get from Sikhi?

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These naastiks always love to bring up Charitropakhan to boost their cause.

Although it probably does warrant a separate thread, have you people not listened to this: http://www.patshahi10.org/audio/katha/Giani-Sant-Singh-Maskeen.mp3

Available in its English translation as well: http://khojee.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/charitropakyaan-katha-by-sant-singh-maskeen/

Seriously, give it up already. True believers of the Tenth Master will have no problems digesting such content. Remember, it is not only the content but the context and purpose that need to be considered when analysing the works of Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji.

Such simplistic minds can only see in black and white. That is why they fail to understand. Hopefully they break away like the Ravidassias, considering their leader has been excommunicated and they already have the borderline makings of a cult.

Clearly they are no friends of the Panth as they have already shown that they are not only Anti-Dasam Granth, but are also against Sikh sovereignty.

/end rant.

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You're taking the Hamnuman thing out of context. As for Sheikh Farid, you really have no idea about history do you?

Can you tell me why you're a Sikh? What do you hope to get from Sikhi?

Ya, whereever you have no answer, bring in the context excuse. Always an excuse from your side eh? Do you people even know what context really means?

I am a Sikh because I want to be a Sikh. I love philosophy of my Guru, Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Those who try to break a Sikh from Guru Granth Sahib Ji are morally corrupt. They need to be exposed.

I hope to live peacefully in light of Gurbani. I hope to implement teachings of Guru Granth Sahib Ji without having to accept teachings of third party content such as writings of poets: raam, Shyam and kaal.

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One thing is for sure, a nation doesn't get freedom by taking 3 crore from indira to rebuild akaal takht. Neither is freedom achieved by taking down the whole akaal takht and rebulding it. Do you people know that baba thakur singh even got those portions taken down which were there from the times of 6th Nanak?

Neither will there ever be a free Sikh country with DG. Is some nation's thoughts aren't free, freeing a country is not even remotely possible. All of you Khalistani kharkoos wanna be, you don't do shit when 1 bullet is fired by police. You will run back to your UK or Canada or USA or whereever and make the poor Punjabis suffer. By the way, you don't establish free country by living in a foreign country. Go to India and do your morchas there. Baharlay desh anday laien aaye?

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

The main aim of Sikhi is to become one with Waheguru, while still alive. What do you do to achieve this or is it secondary to your political goals? Everything that Guru Ji gave us is geared towards this goal, the second that we tamper with it, we've lost the game. People think Waheguru is a joke - "Lokun Ram Khilona Jana..."

When the jamdhoots smack you in the head, then it'll be too late.

We've already had Sikh Raj in the past and Sri Dasam Granth was part and parcel of Sikhi. You talk of freeing people's minds? That's exactly what Guru Gobind Singh Ji's bani does! It's people like you, applying Christian morality to Sikhi who are unable to talk about social issues without getting aroused who need to free your minds and stop being slaves to ignorance.

By the way, you don't establish free country by living in a foreign country. Go to India and do your morchas there. Baharlay desh anday laien aaye?

You live in Canada don't you? Ironic.

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One thing is for sure, a nation doesn't get freedom by taking 3 crore from indira to rebuild akaal takht. Neither is freedom achieved by taking down the whole akaal takht and rebulding it. Do you people know that baba thakur singh even got those portions taken down which were there from the times of 6th Nanak?

Neither will there ever be a free Sikh country with DG. Is some nation's thoughts aren't free, freeing a country is not even remotely possible. All of you Khalistani kharkoos wanna be, you don't do shit when 1 bullet is fired by police. You will run back to your UK or Canada or USA or whereever and make the poor Punjabis suffer. By the way, you don't establish free country by living in a foreign country. Go to India and do your morchas there. Baharlay desh anday laien aaye?

This guy is all comedy. Can you start your own comedy show and come to vancouver. Here is a suggestion for a title. The guy who hasn't hit puberty.(giggle, giggle) LOL

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Neither will there ever be a free Sikh country with DG. Is some nation's thoughts aren't free, freeing a country is not even remotely possible. All of you Khalistani kharkoos wanna be, you don't do shit when 1 bullet is fired by police. You will run back to your UK or Canada or USA or whereever and make the poor Punjabis suffer. By the way, you don't establish free country by living in a foreign country. Go to India and do your morchas there. Baharlay desh anday laien aaye?

What a foolish thing you have said. YOU yourself are living in Canada. If you want to free people from Hindu Dharm then follow your own advice and go to India. Baharlay Desh vich aanday lain ayaaan?

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