Kaljug Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! A lot of survivalist/prepper type people talk about burying weapons and other useful things to be recovered when the SHTF (s*** hits the fan) and it is TEOTWAWKI (the end of the world as we know it). Given that various kathavachaks, mahapurush and vidyarthis have spoken about a time coming when Gurbani will go gupt and the world will enter a stage of chaos and darkness, what does the Sangat think of burying various Gurbani granths in airtight non-metallic containers for the future? Would it be beadbi? Have I been reading too many survivalist posts? K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 is'nt kaljug supposed to last some 100.000 years? it only started 5000 years ago 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 is'nt kaljug supposed to last some 100.000 years? it only started 5000 years ago I didn't know he was that old! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 he is an old baba ji 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaljug Posted June 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 I'm the best looking 5000 year old in the world. Since I am so siyaana, I expect you all to respect my authoritah! Kal yuga is supposed to last 432,000 years, but I don't know if that is supposed to be an actual honest-to-god accurate figure or simply a symbolic number representing "a really long frickin time". Anyway, these mahapurush etc may not be speaking about the end of kal yuga but rather a nasty peak in adharmic violence. K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Well if sanatan tradition is to be believed, dusht daman buried Sarbloh Granth for eons before they returned as Guru Gobind Singh and had it exhumed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Download sikhitothemax and put it on a USB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 the going gupt happens due to shaheedi fauj retreiving Gurbani. depends on if you think you can fool them. Better start working on memorising bani as a backup plan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaljug Posted June 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 the going gupt happens due to shaheedi fauj retreiving Gurbani. depends on if you think you can fool them. Better start working on memorising bani as a backup plan I can imagine a Ray Bradbury type scenario where all religious granths are destroyed or confiscated, but I can't imagine all granths and gutkay just disappearing overnight, and I can't imagine our Guru leaving us bereft of all guidance for any time. I am 5000 year old, veera, my memory is not what it used to be. ;-) K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GillAUS Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) I have also often thought of what would happen if there were only a handful of Sikhs left, but there was no Gurbani. What would happen should those Sikhs not be well-versed in Gurbani, or if were not even be very devout at all - would Sikhi perish? Kaljug bro, you have brought up a very valid point that should be actively discussed. Edited June 9, 2010 by GillAUS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) I have often heard stories from my nan of non-panjbai Sikh communities in parts of India/Pakistan. They don 't know panjbai, cant read gurmuki and are non-amritdari. These communities usually were established by the earlier gurus. What I have been told is that they have their own copies of the SGGS ,even though no-one can read it or understand it. But they do recognise its mahatam. They treat it with high respect, keep their dharma and find that their lives are better off for it. There was an article on sikhnet a while back about such a community in Maharastra. v. interesting story about their faith in the Guru. i'll try to see if I can find it. here it is.... http://www.sikhnet.com/news/extraordinary-tale-faith Edited June 9, 2010 by jattboot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parchand Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 during times when man is selling his soul, Truth has a way of going undercover and resurfacing. when GuruJi wants, the entire world will kneel. Truth is Eternal. in theory it might seem a good idea as this has been done historically but in modern times every inch of land is being developed, even historic buildings which should be conserved are being torn down and even the dead resting in graves are dug up. what good is Bhagwaan unless he is Bhagwant (in the hearts and minds)? to help conserve Gurbani & history.. help disseminate the Message. passing down in oral traditions has worked in many groups. doing real parchaar is good. unfortunately too much emphasis is laid on "Kesh rakho, Singh Sajo". truth is no matter what you look like to fit in, even complete ganjaa slaphead there's nothing stopping you from spending some small time each day learning Gurbani and about your history. jews and hindus are very good at spreading the message of their faith because they are open enough to do comedy, films, etc and use the media as a tool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 i've just heard this is from sau sakhi. that at some point bani will be gupt, we will only have what we memorised. Giani Thakur Singh also mentions this, along with the ceasing of all Amrit Sanchars at some point in the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhane'ch Jannat Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Nothing in this world is permanent The form always changes but the essence of the form does not perish The source of valid teachings such as Gurbani will not perish But if people do not take responsibility and enact or ensoul what Gurbani teaches Then this world will go to hell Which means you can have millions of copies of Gurbani but they will be all useless unless people do what it says in Gurbani. The Jot is only kept alive by sachey sadhaks if Gurbani has no Jot then it is valueless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Writer Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Interesting thread. Any one have any links to katha about the future? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 http://scottishsikhs.org/audio/index.php?q=f&f=%2FEdinburgh%2F09-12-09+-+Giani+Thakur+Singh+Ji+Patiale+Wale talks about it way later into the katha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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