Head Of Armed Forces Says Victory Over Al-Qa'ida Is Not Possible

[dalsingh101]

Head of armed forces says victory over al-Qa'ida is not possible

By Kim Sengupta, Defence Correspondent

Monday, 15 November 2010

Sir David Richards, the head of British forces, has declared that a military victory against al-Qa'ida and the Taliban is not possible.

Attempts by the West to achieve this were unnecessary, said Sir David Richards, the Chief of General Staff, who also defended the right of fundamentalist Muslims to adhere to beliefs which underpin their lives. He stressed that one cannot defeat ideas merely through fighting wars.

Gen Richards warned that Britain would continue to face danger from Islamist terrorism for at least 30 years, and that the militancy that spawned it was unlikely to be resolved in the near future. The threat could not be eradicated, he said, but could be contained, in an effort to prevent attacks.

Gen Richards's views may lay him open to accusations of defeatism. But the former commander of Nato forces in Afghanistan stressed that, in his view, progress was taking place in the Afghan campaign and it was imperative that there should not be a premature withdrawal of troops.

Speaking to the Sunday Telegraph on the eve of Remembrance Sunday, Gen Richards insisted that the sacrifices made by British forces in Afghanistan, where 343 have been killed so far, "have been worth it". Nato was "in the right parish ... Don't give up, folks, it's all to play for". But he also said the British Government and the military had been "guilty of not fully understanding what was at stake" in the mission and acknowledged that many Afghans were "tiring" of Nato's inability to deliver on its promises.

Meanwhile the Afghan President, Hamid Karzai, has charged that the current intensity of US-led military operations is creating dissatisfaction among his people.

In an interview with the Washington Post, Mr Karzai called for an end, in particular, to night raids by special forces aimed at eliminating Taliban commanders on the ground. "The time has come to reduce military operations. The time has come to reduce the presence of, you know, boots in Afghanistan ... to reduce the intrusiveness into the daily Afghan lives," he said.

Although US authorities publicly said they sympathised with Mr Karzai's views, there was private irritation that his pronouncements come at what is considered to be critical time in the campaign, when Western forces are attempting to wrest back ground from the Taliban.

Speaking of the feasibility of achieving victory through combat, Gen Richards said: "You can't. We've all said this – David Petraeus [the US head of Nato forces in the country] has said this, I have said this. In conventional war, defeat and victory is very clear cut and is symbolised by troops marching into another country's capital. First of all you have to ask, do we need to defeat it [islamist militancy] in the sense of a clear-cut victory? I would argue that it is unnecessary and can never be achieved.

"I don't think you can probably defeat an idea. It's something we need to battle against as necessary, but in its milder forms why shouldn't they be allowed to have that sort of philosophy underpinning their lives?

"It's how it manifests itself that is the key and can we contain that manifestation – and quite clearly al-Qa'ida is an unacceptable manifestation of it," said Gen Richards.

* A British soldier from 1st Battalion The Royal Irish Regiment has been killed in an explosion in southern Afghanistan, the Ministry of Defence said yesterday.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/head-of-armed-forces-says-victory-over-alqaida-is-not-possible-2134190.html

Edited November 15, 2010 by dalsingh101

[Guest zulu]

They should have realized before, the Soviets couldn't win, nor will the British....the number's will just keep growing and growing, one jihadi die's another few will join the group.

Edited November 15, 2010 by zulu

[dalsingh101]

Nice to see them pinned down like this. They can't be scheming and plotting against some other simple, third world quom or oil rich Arabs for a while.

Watch God's wonder!

[unbreakable]

Where is Hari Singh Nalua when you need him.

are the afghans meant to be great warriors? or is this just a myth due to their history

[Mithar]

The two biggest imperialist ideologies fighting one another. On one side, Euro centric (Anglo-Saxon) imperialists fighting it out with a resurgent Islamic imperialists who also want to dominate the world. I hope no one becomes a clear winner because if either one wins it is not good for the world over all. The Islamic movements around the world will get a huge boost of enthusiasm if they win and they will spread their web of terrorism and domination around the world.

[jaikaara]

those poor soldiers are fighting ina terrain which they have never seen, adding to it pressure from human rights groups.

[dalsingh101]

If they had just left the sullay to themselves, they would've bickered and killed each other most likely. But no, interfering with fancy pants schemes has come back to bite them in the chittor.....

I think they have a phrase for it....blowback

[unbreakable]

The two biggest imperialist ideologies fighting one another. On one side, Euro centric (Anglo-Saxon) imperialists fighting it out with a resurgent Islamic imperialists who also want to dominate the world. I hope no one becomes a clear winner because if either one wins it is not good for the world over all. The Islamic movements around the world will get a huge boost of enthusiasm if they win and they will spread their web of terrorism and domination around the world.

Actually, you have it wrong partially. Only one side "wants" to dominate. The other side is already dominating, had been and still is and will continue to do so so long the rest of the world remains divided, i.e. india waving its stick around pakistan/bangladesh/sri lanka, arabian nations..

These euro centric anglo-saxons or americans, etc are already ruling, anybody who believes otherwise is deluded (duped into believe what they write in history books, etc)...

They are extremely well organised, everything is done with a purpose, what may seem shambles to us, i.e. iraq and afghanistan, is actually a strategy..which is designed to "win" in any sense....

I just feel for the soldiers who believe they are fighting for "justice and peace".... Gone are those days when soldiers actually fought for justice, peace, honour. They are puppets of the super super blue blooded elite who run the show and see the world as a chess game.

Al-qa-ida is a CIA setup agency, designed to be a "global terrorism network" with the ghost figure of bin laden occasionally scaring people in the west with his stupid videos...

Anybody who believes that a guy living in a cave took on the worlds biggest, strongest military nation...lol..I am not even going to bother finishing this...

same goes for bali bombing, mumbai attack, 7/7, madrid, etc..... What have the terrorist gained from this, more support, sympathy for their cause of world domination? NO..

all that has happened is bigger defence budgets have been passed...making the private coporations more rich and the generals more well off for granting those contracts..etc.

its all a game........about time we woke up