mit Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Sat Sri Akaal Jio! Hope everyone is well. I would like to start studying and reciting Chandi Di Vaar, and add it as part of my nitnem. What are the effects of this. As in, does one get uncontrolable anger? Please can some one help Dass. Im havnt taken amrit and wanted to know whether this would be a restriction also. Fateh Ji Mit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaal_singh Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Gurbani is here for our liberation, not our restriction. Gurbani is here to bring us to Amrit, and Amrit is here to bring us to Gurbani. Muslim, Sikh, Hindu, Christian, Buddhist, Atheist can all read bani, Guru Sahib has brought this bani for all. In regards to Chandi Di Vaar, how can Gurbani bring uncontrolable anger out in someone? It's the word of God, spoken thru the Guru's mouth. Chandi Di Vaar brings about Bir Ras, warrior spirit. If anything it should bring inspiration to want to destroy the inner demons in the way Chandi destroyed the demons. Bani Guru, Guru Hai Bani, Vich Bani Amritsaray. The Word, the Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani. Within the Bani, the Ambrosial Nectar is contained 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zulu Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 What about not reading Chandi Di Var after sunset? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Let NIKE guide you: Just do it. And then tell us. Dasam bani is no more or less powerful than the panj banis you do daily. Zulu I also heard it was the other way round ie to do at night time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 I dont understand the FEAR that some sikhs have of Dasam Granth banis!! How did it get that way? We dont have any fear of reading any other banis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I don't know who started the thing about not reading CDV after dark? I really question whether such a thing was actually propagated by Guru Gobind Singh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I'd say there are certain rituals that are appropriate to say increase the effect of reading such banis; but not the converse of trying to curtail the effects out of fear. I used to read it following advice from a certain member on this forum and it was the best thing. The sheer beauty of the bani - one of the very few Panjabi compositions of the tenth guru. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Thank you for your input guys. Its mostly the 'elder' generation that state that if you read it, you wont be able to control your anger, and when asking the elders if they have read the bani, they simply reply 'Nope, we have no reason to read it as times have chnged and we dont want to read it due to the dangers behind it', those are the exact words some one said to me!!! @suryadev: Did you have any of the 'Angry' Symphtoms when reciting the bani? Mit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 No it didnt. However, I do think its the intention you put behind it. if you read CDV , or any bani for that matter, with the thoughts that it will make you full of rage , then it will be a self fulfilling prophesy. I remember advising some family to read it in india becasue of some problems they were having. They were at their wits end, going to doctors, specialists, jadu/toona guys, pandits etc. Even with nothing to loose and already being in a hopeless situation they refused to recite CDV because they were that fearful of it!! For me that was a real eye-opener, in that no matter how well you wish someone you cannot force them to do something that will bring obvious benefits to them. Benefits that they themselves want. Since then I have decided that if i learn/know of anything, just keep it to myself and dont proffer too much advice unless someone actually asks for it and really wants it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 of what i have experienced personally, if you read the bani with a pleasant mind you wont feel the sudden anger rising..anger arises when u have something bothering you and a feeling that it is not right...the bir ras then takes control...so if u have something bothering u inside first read japji sahib and then chandi di vaar , then followed by sukhmani sahib . Chatka a nariyal if you are ok with it after the ardas. I had taken guidence from some good nihang singhs and i enjoy reading Chandi di vaar and Uggardanti...i very much love the composition of the Uggardanti too . so dont have second thoughts ..dont fear the bani ..the bani is to remove the fear . Sadaa Jai Bhagouti ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samosasingh Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Whatever you do don' t read it and fart in the direction of a gas stove or propane tank, all the anger will be chanelled and you will cause immense damage to society...........all laughing aside I have noticed the same about chandi di vaar. The "sikh" tuna removers in India recite this bani if they feel you are in real trouble, it is the "super package" last resort tunaa removal method with a havan on the side and various dolls that they push pins into. I attended on of these, very interesting. Also in "Se Kinehiyaa" it is also written that if done after sunset that you should light a jot among other things. Suryadev - I am interested to listen to your views (or others if they have any) on why you recommended this bani to your family for the removal of obstacles, most people recommend Sukhmani and Chaupaei Sahib. Pls share your views, it is always good to hear others experiences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mit Posted April 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 thank you so much for your help guys! i havnt taken amrit, does that have to be taken in order to read this bani? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 No gurbani is the exclusive preserve of amritdhari's. (despite what they say) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Suryadev - I am interested to listen to your views (or others if they have any) on why you recommended this bani to your family for the removal of obstacles, most people recommend Sukhmani and Chaupaei Sahib. Pls share your views, it is always good to hear others experiences. I told my family to do because they absolutely beleive that someone had done 'toona' on them. When I was advised I was told that CDV is ideal for such 'problems, whether they are real, or perceived by ones mind'. For me it did help, for my family: they were too scared of the bani to even consider it. They were too comfortable in their misery; which unfortunely is true for many people. They find solace in the depressive, pain of the status quo and are too afraid to act to gain some improvement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahegurujio Posted April 27, 2023 Report Share Posted April 27, 2023 I used to do this baani everyday around the afternoon just listening to it. I have a mad respect for mataji as she Darshan of Guru Hargobind Sahibji and her saki is amazing. During listening to this baani, I felt a mad urge to cut off a goats head and drink the blood and eat the beating heart. Since then I went to the mahaan at the gurdwara and they told me to take all dasam grants out my nitnem. This included CDV, shastaar naam mala and brahm kavich. The only baani from dasam granth involved in my nitnem now is just the 3 in panj baaniya. I listen to other baani too. Sukhmani sahib was one. I was also told to stop listening to salok mahalla nauva and for those bani that I was told to drop, I replaced with dukh panjani sahib and shabad hazare. Since doing this I feel a really nice peace but I miss dasam granth paatsha baani so much. I miss having the bir ras inside me. I too am also in 2 minds as do I go back to listening to my old nitnem? When I listen to the odd baani here and there I feel a sense of guilt like I'm going against the mahaan of the guru ghar but I don't think he understands my POV. At heart I'm a nihang singh but I took amrit else where which don't belive in the way of dal. I feel unsure what to do at this point. If I carry on, am I living my life to please others? My only itcha is to have Darshan of maharaj and I feel that the maryada at budda dal will help get me there. I also find it so hard to keep weight off as a veggie. I struggle with my diet. Alot of things. I don't mean to cause any offence to any samprota just expressing my views and feelings and any advice will be greatly appreciated. Bhul chuk maaf saadh sangatji 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfinder Posted July 7, 2023 Report Share Posted July 7, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 3:55 AM, vahegurujio said: I used to do this baani everyday around the afternoon just listening to it. I have a mad respect for mataji as she Darshan of Guru Hargobind Sahibji and her saki is amazing. During listening to this baani, I felt a mad urge to cut off a goats head and drink the blood and eat the beating heart. Since then I went to the mahaan at the gurdwara and they told me to take all dasam grants out my nitnem. This included CDV, shastaar naam mala and brahm kavich. The only baani from dasam granth involved in my nitnem now is just the 3 in panj baaniya. I listen to other baani too. Sukhmani sahib was one. I was also told to stop listening to salok mahalla nauva and for those bani that I was told to drop, I replaced with dukh panjani sahib and shabad hazare. Since doing this I feel a really nice peace but I miss dasam granth paatsha baani so much. I miss having the bir ras inside me. I too am also in 2 minds as do I go back to listening to my old nitnem? When I listen to the odd baani here and there I feel a sense of guilt like I'm going against the mahaan of the guru ghar but I don't think he understands my POV. At heart I'm a nihang singh but I took amrit else where which don't belive in the way of dal. I feel unsure what to do at this point. If I carry on, am I living my life to please others? My only itcha is to have Darshan of maharaj and I feel that the maryada at budda dal will help get me there. I also find it so hard to keep weight off as a veggie. I struggle with my diet. Alot of things. I don't mean to cause any offence to any samprota just expressing my views and feelings and any advice will be greatly appreciated. Bhul chuk maaf saadh sangatji How are you feeling now veer ji ? I have similar feelings as well especially if you read dass's post on dasam bani. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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