Guest Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 ~ Gurmat relations to Advait Marg & Bhakti Marg ~ I want to quickly define these terms according to our samparda's poran bhramgyani mahapursh..so everyone is on the same page, before any discussion- 1. Advait Marg- Also known as gyan marg/nirgun bhagti where jaigaso with its buddhi and sankalp separates its antish karan (mann, chit, buddh, ahankar) rise its surti above from ashthol sirar, shuksham sirar, karan sirar, jagrath, sukhopat, suaopan avastha , panj koshas and focus entirely on atma-paratma which he/she/creation and everything is part of atma-paratma, also do daily chores with gyan saroop atam birthi as shakshi(witness) that i m not body/antish karan or mind but atma-paratma and upon meditation with sehaj avastha starting jaap and ajapa( in later stage) of Vahiguroo with an understanding below, - Vahi (Acharaj/Wonderful roop) Guroo- chaitan atma-paratama (super consciousness) Gyan Marg is parvan in Gurmat- plenty of gurbani tukhs supporting above, results are same- Merge with Nirankar via Gyan of Nirgun 2. Bhakti Marg- Bhakti Marg in Sikhi context - Bhagat doing Nishkam seva, bairaag and Naam Simran doing jaap and ajapa(in later stage) of Vahiguroo with an understanding of Bhavna below: Vahi (Acharaj/Wonderful Roop) Guroo - Supreme being- Nirgun/Sargun Paratma as Hasti As Bhagat doing bhagti with nisham seva and bairaag/naam simran hoping one day his turn will come to merge with his preetam(vahiguroo). One day nirgun paratma in its sargun saroop give the Gurparsad either via paratak darshan and merge its bhagat or open bhagat deb dristhi to feel "Maha Anand". In layman terms in words of Sant Jagjit Singh Ji Harkhowale Bhagti Marg- Bhagat want to taste the sweetness of mathahi(sweet) Gyan Marg/Advait Marg- Gyani want to be that mathahi(sweet) by rising above from antish karan (mann, chit, buddh, ahankar), merging its buddhi/surti to atma/jot(real self) Bhagti Marg is also parvan in Gurmat, plenty of gurbani tuks supporting above, results are same- Merge with Nirgun via Gurparsad of Sargun Paratma- Darshan of Guru Sahiban or apar kirpa of Guru Sahiban to open jev's deb dristhi to nirgun parbhram gyan. So with the above definition or above understanding of these terms: The real question i put foward to get clear understanding of Gurmat relations to Advait-Gurparsad. Out of 100% how many % of gurmat based on advait (man tu jot saroop ha apna mool paichayan) and how many % of gurmat based on bhagat marg/ grace (gurparsad- gur di kirpa)? My hunch based on listening to mahapursh deep vichar/kathas- It's hard to put any number or percentage as - Gurmat supports meta reality based on individual surti. But for better understanding I would break down to two categories: If one wants to analyze the question above from jaigaso point of view or context: I would say- Gurmat is 60% based on Gurparsad and 40% based on Advait as Gurbani and historical speaking of guru's lives gives more updesh/living examples to Jaigaso on - Nishkam Seva, Simran, Bairag, Seein jagat as dukhroop/mithiya. If one wants to analyze the question above from gyanvan bhramgyani point of view or context- I would say their answer would also depend on their life and bhagti they did (nirgun gyan upasana or Bhagat Upasana) and also would depending on the crowd(interviewer- jaigaso avastha) they are answering to- They may say - 80 % on Gurparsad, 20 % on Advait or they may say 50% / 50 % or 80% advait and 20 % on Gurparsad. In essence (TAT) nichor of the question above, i don't think it could be defined as Gurbani supports meta reality both Gyan Marg and Bhagti Marg equally parvan in Gurmat and I also think bhramgyani would give its input based on their expereince but fall short to define it fully as Gurbani/Gurmat is Agam Agaad Bodh- Nirgun Paratma..we cannot define it fully just expereince it. What you guys think? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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