Jaspreet Singh Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 I th 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Unfortunately, we are, there are even jatt based gurdwaras- singh sabha etc with all committe members jatt, also same goes with ramgharia and ravidasa based gurdwaras. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Like has been discussed before, the calcification of castes by nonJats is a reaction to exclusion and violent, haughty behavior from jats. It still goes on judging by the videos that have been posted here lately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Like has been discussed before, the calcification of castes by nonJats is a reaction to exclusion and violent, haughty behavior from jats. I agree but there's no point in becoming like the people you despise. Tarkhans and others have become just as entrenched in their caste bs as others. Thankfully things will change in my generation, with the greater change coming in our children's generation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 It is engrained more in some than others. My mrs and I are from different backgrounds. We chose to ignore caste and thought being Sikh was enough. But deep down now I realise she has a lot of pride regarding her own and it was deeply engrained in her from childhood. Their community looks down on others groups and does have a superiority complex. They prohibited their children for socialising with other castes children to safe guard them from a negative influences. That's how paranoid some groups are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Have a balanced integration (integration yes-annihilation-no) with wider western society otherwise too much hanging around in community will bring tribalism baggage, and it will totally bog you down or even better truly universal- have akaal ustat gurmat sidhant in back of your head all the time. Akaal ustat helps one with pure cognitive perception, cuts through all the baggage, even 'ism' baggage and even subtle kind of fixation -causes- one may have attached themselves to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 It is engrained more in some than others. My mrs and I are from different backgrounds. We chose to ignore caste and thought being Sikh was enough. But deep down now I realise she has a lot of pride regarding her own and it was deeply engrained in her from childhood. Their community looks down on others groups and does have a superiority complex. They prohibited their children for socialising with other castes children to safe guard them from a negative influences. That's how paranoid some groups are. I wonder what group you are talking about.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I'll give you a clue it doesn't begin with J or T. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 I'll give you a clue it doesn't begin with J or T.lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspreet Singh Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 May Be from S?.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchpagg47 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 What is a Sikh? If it is someone who follows first nine gurus that is kuch of north. If it is 10th master then how is someome who carries 3 inch kirpan but does job in office a Singh? Regardless of Jaat you born into, Varan is by Karam. Certain Jaati have traits more suitable for certain varan but, How is some Jatt or Tarkhan who wears small pagg, 2.5" blunt instrument a Singh or Khalsa Sikh? Only a shastar bearing ksytria is and 99% don't fit definition. Not about spreading your 'religion' it's about being honest. If you lie you set yourself up for worse fall later. Just look at USA/UK 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) What is a Sikh? If it is someone who follows first nine gurus that is kuch of north. If it is 10th master then how is someome who carries 3 inch kirpan but does job in office a Singh? Regardless of Jaat you born into, Varan is by Karam. Certain Jaati have traits more suitable for certain varan but, How is some Jatt or Tarkhan who wears small pagg, 2.5" blunt instrument a Singh or Khalsa Sikh? Only a shastar bearing ksytria is and 99% don't fit definition. Not about spreading your 'religion' it's about being honest. If you lie you set yourself up for worse fall later. Just look at USA/UK You say that but which apnay abroad truly have the stomach to fight - and I mean with others not the internal bickering we are famous for. If we are REALLY honest with ourselves, we'd admit the whole warrior thing is (sadly) in the past. We only have token, symbolic remnants in our culture. That's a price that has been paid for material success/status. If we keep on the theme of being honest - THAT is the most important thing to the average Panjabi Sikh - not fighting prowess. Edited April 29, 2015 by dalsingh101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchpagg47 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 You are correct, we have a demographic crisis and these people don't wanna wake up. You're have another partition, with tamil, kerala, w. bengal, Andhra and most if not all of n.e gone or cut off. 3 ne states are already full christian and one is half. Bangladesh will absorb them all, Nepal they say is already 20% and indo gangetic plane is not far from that. Maharastra, Rajasthan, MP, Gujurat are there but if you lose Indo Gangetic you are done. Already problems in W. Bengal, just need Punjab to Ignite and Pakistan can take whole plain. -- Indian army is fighting for secular India aka Muslims. Pakistan is too, This is why Indian Muslims so happy. The more you tell these 'hindus' these thungs the more they move away from you and treat you as an outcaste. The Sikhs want to argue about meat and female equality. Hindus want to destroy entire culture and become a global 'religion' how they try to portray Sikhs. -- Development of educational and internet infrastructure msy have saved us, but south just milked the north. Fake Aryan Invasion theory and now north has nothing south ready to accept islam/christianity and fight us. Will be partition and new India will be pressured to give half army to dravidistan and be left weak for ISIS, Pak and China. What way id there out of it? NRIs with money can't go there and set up anything because goondas loot it. People don't even look at the next village, and don't act until problem at door by then too late. -- Our own think they can build cannons and swords in the jungles and fight Pak Fa and F-22. I read on twitter that Pakistan sent beef to Nepal and that everything is cooked in Nankana Sahib with beef oil and fat. Yet khalistani want to shout Pakistan Balle Balle like Prof Amarjit Singh. Is this divine plan as it says in Swaya Chand, Dasam Granth Sahib or is there a way out?? You don't even have varnasharm dharam anymore, which was a good system. Just needless tribalism and infighting. If you want to keep gotr for marriage and historical purposes, go ahead. What is point of put chmara de put jatt da. Fact is if a Jatt is a ksytria and chamar a shudr, a marasee is neither and that's all a singer is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchpagg47 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 It's like abdali at panipat, all the musliks camped together while we (marathas and allies) were in separate camps. Abdali was very happy at this, whst else to say? You can say the one Sardar (not sikh) should have held back and protected toap khanna. But it is symptom of bigger problem. How long did it take after 10th guru sahib for infighting? Baba Banda Singh Ji aka only few years. We have 600million muslims, and 100s of millions more christian and seculars. How do you even destroy that many? It can be done I guess but afterwards all the goras will come and swallow you. Just like British after Panipat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramgharia Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 i had seen many jats discriminating between jats and majhabis and ramgharia clan also try to show jats and majhabis down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guruka Sikh Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 People need to understand it's your actions that matter not what family you were born into. A "high" cast person is no closer to God than a "low" cast. If you see God's light in everything God created how can you even think you are above anyone. WJKK WJKF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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