Ragmaala Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 How does semen retention, abstinence from sex or practicing brahmacharya affects your meditation experience ?I already know about the physical benefits, but since I usually dont have a meditative experience I cannot comment on this part. I am particularly interested in hearing practical views of advanced meditation practitioners like Sat, Lucky, Chz, Bhagat & other gupts about this topic ?Please discuss, thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 FIrstly, I understand that a 'brahmacharya' is the ultimate yogi that not only abstains, but actually has no kami thoughts either. You see, there is a huge difference between just abstaining or actually being brahmacharya. It's about semen and "ojas"..... and "ojas is the strong subtle energy within us that travels along the spinal fluids... therefore it can go anywhere from the lower mooldhar chakra up to the top crown chakra..However, we have to channel it, to make it rise, because the mind and panjj dhoots will automatically keep it lower down. The goal is not about abstaining, but the brahmachrya directs all this energy into Spiritual energy instead of sexual. The whole diversion of sexual energies into spiritual energies is a big deal and it's what the "moolabandha" or root lock in Kabirji's shabad is about. In yoga, this is a major goal but it is very misunderstood in the west, where they tend to mix the tantra,tantric and kamasutra.. into porn fantasires (I'm not going to go into this because these are separate topics themselves) Going back to the 'ojas"..which is the subtle energy....I would try and imagine it as the energy that gives you that ultimate joy,climax or orgasm (you can imagine how powerful this subtle energy can be).. and note that this experience cannot be physically quantified or measured in any way since it is completely subtle, except for the physical discharge of semen..... Now, let's also accept that there is no greater personal and joyful experience than an orgasm.......But let's also remember that this energy is the 'ojas' that is channeled down to the lower chakras where kundalini is dormant....Therefore, it is energy channeled in the opposite direction from the higher throat, third eye and dasam/crown chakras.....it's antagonistic from spiritual joy of union with God. The brahmacharya channels this kaam energy towards more perfect and genuine spiritual energy. He enjoys much greater experiences than orgasm with union and marriage to husband lord. The brahmacharya is the greatest 'soul bride' in gurbani. I mentioned about a person that simply abstains as being different to brahmacharya......you see a brahmachrya does not have his ojas transforming into semen, therefore he will never be having wet dreams. However, a person abstaining may end up having plenty of wet dreams if the mind is still having thoughts and sexual urges . ie. when he sees the odd pair of boobs or someone desirable. REMEMBER that ''Thoughts'' can be satogun, rajogun or tamogun because they are still maya.....and these subtle thoughts and urges are enough to promote physiological production and discharge of semen. It's very well documented in the west that people who abstain. very often end up having other personality disorders, psychological problems, social and physical difficulties. etc. They can end up very repressed and sexually frustrated, which in itself is understandable since their abstinence leads renders them unable to fulfill lower sexual desires.... it's like trying to hold this energy within, dampen it, mask it and suppress it.....only leads to levels of internal frustration... This abstaining does NOT help them physically or spiritually in any way. When anyone suppresses any sort of energy, then the energy will always find another route to break through. We mannukhs suffer these same consequences if we try and suppress different emotions, since they only lead to physical ailments and illnesses. Your question of whether any one has experienced the effects of abstaining for their meditation progress or experience ? Well, that is slightly difficult to answer because it isn't a simple yes or no.....You see, you learn and get to a point where any bhog with your partner becomes a divine experience and then No, It doesn't affect you or dampen you spiritually.....in fact it makes you more spiritually elevated. ....Again,.. very difficult to explain.. but it's like enjoying meditating and simran because you are experiencing the God that is inside your own body and experiencing God inside your partner's body. However, if your intentions are more kaam, perverse or purely physical,..then you will feel some degree of guilt or anti-climax afterwards along with a spiritual dip. Most people verify that excessive semen discharge leads to a major decline in amrit rass and also inhibits further nadis from opening up. The key is in having the initial motivation to channel as much internal energy towards spiritual ascension. Then. kaami thoughts, or intentions occurring in day to day life, will slowly begin to diminish. Seriously, you don't have to force yourself to look the other way or try forcing thoughts out of your mind. Neither do you need to suppress them, as that just leads to the common abstinence problem mentioned. I reckon it kind of comes naturally with increased meditation, just as desires for taste of tongue diminish, the desires for possessions and desires for power...then the carnal desires also follow route and begin to fade away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Thanks bro, that makes a lot of sense, and without attaching any taboo to the subject. Thanks for your input. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 https://www.speakingtree.in/blog/how-to-transform-the-sexual-energy-into-spiritual-energy-ojas-shakti 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 6/20/2015 at 7:32 PM, Lucky said: The key is in having the initial motivation to channel as much internal energy towards spiritual ascension. Then. kaami thoughts, or intentions occurring in day to day life, will slowly begin to diminish. Seriously, you don't have to force yourself to look the other way or try forcing thoughts out of your mind. Neither do you need to suppress them, as that just leads to the common abstinence problem mentioned. I reckon it kind of comes naturally with increased meditation, just as desires for taste of tongue diminish, the desires for possessions and desires for power...then the carnal desires also follow route and begin to fade away. So true ha ha. It's well known fact in some areas that youth of certain jatha groups are sexually frustrated & hard up. It becomes obvious from their street lingo and talk as wel as some of them getting caught. A good topic that I've never really pondered much on. I'll probably read further into it now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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