SinghMunda Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 Is there any type of creation story in Sikhi? Or, if not, is it cos simply it would be way beyond our understanding? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 Is there any type of creation story in Sikhi? Or, if not, is it cos simply it would be way beyond our understanding? Creation story of ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str8_desified Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 he means creation story like adam and eve in christianity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 Sikhism is not based on Stories frineds. Its based on facts and turth. No fiction in here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 Lets wait till he comes back because we are not sure what his intention is ..... :shock: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 i think he means the creation of the earth - big bang theory n stuff.. the following is an interestin read jaisae jal thae budhabudhaa oupajai binasai neeth || As the bubbles in the water well up and disappear again, jag rachanaa thaisae rachee kahu naanak sun meeth ||25|| so is the universe created; says Nanak, listen, O my friend! ||25|| Guru Tegh Bahaadur Ji in Salok Mehl 9 on Pannaa 1427 Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji explains the origin of the universe through this couplet. It is explained as a ‘bubbling’ effect on water, and the universe originated through a bubbling phenomenon. This verse from Gurbani can be compared to two scientific theories: 1. The origin of the Universe was explained by the ‘Big Bang Theory’ proposed by the Russian-born physicist. Professor George Gamow (1904-1988). According to this theory of creation, the universe began as the result of an explosion, called ‘The Big Bang’. Later, Professor Jayant Narlikar expressed the view that instead of one big bang, there was a continuous explosion of small bubbles during the origin of the Universe. The central idea in both these concepts revolves around the theme of ‘bubbling’ during the origin of the universe. Thus when a bubble bursts, there is a bang. Interestingly, Guru Tegh Bahadur composed this couplet in 1675, while the ‘Big Bang Theory’ and Narlikar’s hypothesis were propounded much later. 2. The ‘Origin of Life’ is also explained through a similar theory. The Russian scientist,. Oparin first proposed the concept (published in 1924 in a booklet entitled "The Origin of Life" that life originated when the first protein was synthesized. For this synthesis, he suggested a "Hot Dilute Soup" hypothesis According to this hypothesis, all the required chemicals where brought together and, through bubbling, the first protein was synthesized. This hypothesis has not yet been challenged and students of science accept it as a viable theory even today. It has not been replaced by any other hypothesis, and additional experiments have been carried out subsequently. This has helped in understanding the concept in a much better manner when compared to the very simple explanation provided by the original experiment carried out by Oparin. Gurbani tells us that there are numerous layers of the earth as well as numerous skies. This is scientifically accepted because when we study the evolution of the earth, we find different eras in the form of layers. Each layer signifies a different age in geological terms. Similarly, there are numerous solar systems in the galaxy. paathaalaa paathaal lakh aagaasaa aagaas || There are nether worlds beneath nether worlds, and hundreds of thousands of heavenly worlds above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinghMunda Posted August 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 Can anyone add anything more about how, if there is anyhting in Sikhi that says about how the world was created by waheguru? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 taken from the thread above It has been falsely stated that gurmat can't describe the creation of the universe. Satguru has given the process clearly in Akaalee baanee. Satguru first describes what was before creation: "Arbad, narbad dhundoo kaaraa, dharn na gugana hukum apaaraa" pg 1035. This means for countless ages there was utter darkness (nothingess), no heaven or earth. The will of akaal reigned everywhere. No day no night, no sun, no moon. Only akaal stayed in solitary mediatation. Then guru jee says "keetaa pasaao eko kavao". With his one word, the universe was created. Then what was the process? on pg 1037-38 Satguru describes that the elements of air and water were evolved along with everything else in the universe. on pg 19, Satguru says "sache te pavanaa bhaiyaa pavne te jal hoi. jal tay tribhavan saajiyaa, ghat ghat jot samaay" from the true on, air (gases) were created and from them was created water. From water arose the three worlds (metaphor or common term for the universe and all within) with his divine light within all bodies. Satguru continues and says, "kai baar pasario paasaar, sadaa sadaa ik ekankaar" many times has creation been created (the universe been created) only Akaal is forever. This clearly shows that satguru has told us that the universe has been created, destroyed and recreated many times: we are just in one cycle of this creation. And even commenting on other parts of the universe we can't see, satguru says "kaytay pavan panee baisantar" countless are the airs (atmospheres), waters and fires. Thus it has been shown Satguru has given Sikhs an understanding of gurmat that is very scientific and matches the views of contemporary scientists 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gupt Singh Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 hey steel bangle man, good stuff! i didnt see the evolution stuff on 1037-38 ..... cud sum1 explain? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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