SAS brother on Rotherham grooming case

[dalsingh101]

 

[samurai]

Bro what a coincidence, i was on train reading metro and thought i may post the adam johnson (footballer) story on here, but i though i would wait till he is sentenced.

This sh1t pisses me off so much its unbelievable, i actually spoke to mohan singh a year back or so and he was asking for volunteers, i was like to be honest i cannot deal with that sh1t verbally ill loose it. Then i asked him whats the the worst case you have dealt with, his answer was they are all bad but youngest age was 7 years old.. come on man...

these f'in demons are preying on our girls, it's for our community to stop being poppu pricks and man up.. This is why this flowery shant ras sikhs piss me off big time..

sorry bro, this sh1t gets me going.. chal maybe its a uk problem for now, but i know first hand sulleh from east london looking to move to canada (i wonder what for)..its all about jannat for them..

Going back to clip, yes police, local authority etc, should also be held accountable..

[Ragmaala]

^ its a valid emotional response bro...its really messed up....I am glad some Singhs are taking responsibility and dealing with these issues. I totally agree, we def need bir rass.

Training should be mandatory in sikh households.

[Ragmaala]

Much Respect to Bhai Sahib Ji and I believe UK singhs are the toughest people of all the western Sikhs. You can find a Sarbloh gym only in UK.

[Lucky]

@samurai

I agree samurai, the sulleh numbers seem to be increasing in Canada. The sulleh problems used to piss me off too when I was in UK. The Canadians kind of shocked me at first because they seemed too oblivious to sulleh attitudes and their corrupt agendas. They seem to be a generation or two behind here and are basically at the stage where UK Sikhs were in late 70's and early 80's.. ..The majority of second generation muslims are just elementary school kids yet. I can very easily imagine how they will be in 10-15 years and the same uk sulleh scenarios start happening in places like Brampton and Surrey.

@gunahgar

yes, Uk Sikhs are tougher in that sense because they have had to face some serious shit over the years. Problem in Canada is that the 'tough' factor is more related to gang warfare and crimes.

 

 

[dalsingh101]

8 hours ago, Lucky said:

@samurai

I agree samurai, the sulleh numbers seem to be increasing in Canada. The sulleh problems used to piss me off too when I was in UK. The Canadians kind of shocked me at first because they seemed too oblivious to sulleh attitudes and their corrupt agendas. They seem to be a generation or two behind here and are basically at the stage where UK Sikhs were in late 70's and early 80's.. ..The majority of second generation muslims are just elementary school kids yet. I can very easily imagine how they will be in 10-15 years and the same uk sulleh scenarios start happening in places like Brampton and Surrey.

@gunahgar

yes, Uk Sikhs are tougher in that sense because they have had to face some serious shit over the years. Problem in Canada is that the 'tough' factor is more related to gang warfare and crimes.

 

 

Even relatives I've got who grew up here (and were properly clued up about the grooming and conversions), have become very different since moving to Canada. It's like they have lost their consciousness since getting big houses and land over there and just live the easy life.

Canuck brothers and sisters look like they are going to get caught with their pants down. 

[paapiman]

34 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

Even relatives I've got who grew up here (and were properly clued up about the grooming and conversions), have become very different since moving to Canada. It's like they have lost their consciousness since getting big houses and land over there and just live the easy life.

Canuck brothers and sisters look like they are going to get caught with their pants down. 

Daas reckons, most Muslims are good. It is only a minority among them, who are causing troubles.

Is the above right Paaji?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[dalsingh101]

1 minute ago, paapiman said:

Daas reckons, most Muslims are good. It is only a minority among them, who are causing troubles 

Is the above right Paaji?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I don't know if most are 'good' but yes, most don't do the kind of stuff highlighted in the op. But too many of them turn a blind eye or go into denial about what others in their communities are doing. But in all fairness this is a common phenomena, I mean look how many problems we have in our community with people in denial of rape and abuse inbetween so-called higher castes and those they deem to be beneath them.  

In the UK I'd say the grooming problem mainly emanates from the Pakistani community with a small number of other sullay joining in with the gundh. Most other Muslim communities don't have this problem like paks do - well not overtly at least. You don't have Bengalis doing it, you don't have Iranians doing it, or Gujeratis. You might find the odd individual from these others communities involved, but they are mainly those who've befriended a gang of groomers and are going along with the flow.  I mean there was even one apna (some Virk fudhu) who was in the paper as part of some grooming crew not long ago. 

[paapiman]

3 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

In the UK I'd say the grooming problem mainly emanates from the Pakistani community 

Punjabis? or Non-Punjabis?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[samurai]

15 hours ago, Gunahgar said:

Much Respect to Bhai Sahib Ji

Defo agree bro... Some of the stories are heart breaking as even if the girl comes home and is 'rescued', that home/family is never the same.

[dalsingh101]

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

Punjabis? or Non-Punjabis?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I'd say mainly Punjabis/Kashmiris/Mirpuris the odd Pathaan gets involved too. 

[samurai]

4 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

Canuck brothers and sisters look like they are going to get caught with their pants down. 

Apne people got a tendency to react once damage has been done..

[dalsingh101]

12 minutes ago, samurai said:

Apne people got a tendency to react once damage has been done..

Then it's usually too little too late. lol

[Premi]

On 3/4/2016 at 5:43 AM, Lucky said:

@samurai

I agree samurai, the sulleh numbers seem to be increasing in Canada. The sulleh problems used to piss me off too when I was in UK. The Canadians kind of shocked me at first because they seemed too oblivious to sulleh attitudes and their corrupt agendas. They seem to be a generation or two behind here and are basically at the stage where UK Sikhs were in late 70's and early 80's.. ..The majority of second generation muslims are just elementary school kids yet. I can very easily imagine how they will be in 10-15 years and the same uk sulleh scenarios start happening in places like Brampton and Surrey.

@gunahgar

yes, Uk Sikhs are tougher in that sense because they have had to face some serious shit over the years. Problem in Canada is that the 'tough' factor is more related to gang warfare and crimes.

 

 

@Lucky could you please do a thread on Canada vs UK - I mean, how you have found it different and similar etc in your own experiences?

[Premi]

On 3/4/2016 at 2:28 PM, dalsingh101 said:

I don't know if most are 'good' but yes, most don't do the kind of stuff highlighted in the op. But too many of them turn a blind eye or go into denial about what others in their communities are doing. But in all fairness this is a common phenomena, I mean look how many problems we have in our community with people in denial of rape and abuse inbetween so-called higher castes and those they deem to be beneath them.  

In the UK I'd say the grooming problem mainly emanates from the Pakistani community with a small number of other sullay joining in with the gundh. Most other Muslim communities don't have this problem like paks do - well not overtly at least. You don't have Bengalis doing it, you don't have Iranians doing it, or Gujeratis. You might find the odd individual from these others communities involved, but they are mainly those who've befriended a gang of groomers and are going along with the flow.  I mean there was even one apna (some Virk fudhu) who was in the paper as part of some grooming crew not long ago. 

@paapiman I hope you now are wary of all of them, I definitely I am and I have a high threshold for trusting them etc. 7

@dalsingh101this thread was a few years ago, but I recall at least one Somali gang and it was news in 2014

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30078503

 

Thirteen men have been convicted of a string of child sex crimes in Bristol involving the abuse, rape and prostitution of teenage girls.

Bristol Crown Court heard one victim, aged 16, was assaulted by five Somali men after she was moved to the city while in the care of another authority.

Her 14-year-old sister was raped by a member of the gang while visiting her.

The inquiry led to police uncovering another gang of Somali origin who had been abusing four other girls.

The four teenagers were paid £30 or given drugs, alcohol and gifts to perform sex acts on older men from the Somali community.

'Unforgivable acts'

The court heard some were persuaded to have sex with other gang members as they were told by the gang it was Somali "culture and tradition" and "men always have sex with each other's girlfriends".

One 13-year-old victim was raped four times by three different men in a Premier Inn in Bristol city centre.

A statement from the Bristol Somali community said: "The community is deeply shocked and shaken by the outcome of this case. They are unforgivable acts of cruelty against the most vulnerable members of our community."

[dalsingh101]

4 hours ago, Premi said:

this thread was a few years ago, but I recall at least one Somali gang and it was news in 2014

At this stage, I revise my previous opinion, as I believe a few other communities are involved against our lot too, not just p'stanis. Afghans, certain types of arabs (like algerians) and even eastern european gangs (like albanians or hungarians). I think one way it works is that paks find and 'turn out' a young girl, and then swap or sell her to other nonpak pimps - now especially because the light is on them.   

[Premi]

@dalsingh101

Would like your thoughts on some related issues discussed before, didn't want to start a new thread

You work with 'freshies' . What are their thoughts about relations with Paks in London? Are they suspicious ? Friendly ? In India, they will have only met Muslims who are Indian 

What do they know about the grooming issues and hostilities that exist here?

Do they ask you about this actively ? Are they aware of social media grooming ? Do any of them tell you they worry about their kids in schools and social media etc ?

I know you think they are more 'bhangra' oriented, but I don't think so necessarily. I think bhangra scene in UK will die down as increasingly less of the young ones will identify with Panjabi music scene etc

What do they think about the Gore they meet ?

[dalsingh101]

15 hours ago, Premi said:

@dalsingh101

Would like your thoughts on some related issues discussed before, didn't want to start a new thread

You work with 'freshies' . What are their thoughts about relations with Paks in London? Are they suspicious ? Friendly ? In India, they will have only met Muslims who are Indian 

What do they know about the grooming issues and hostilities that exist here?

Do they ask you about this actively ? Are they aware of social media grooming ? Do any of them tell you they worry about their kids in schools and social media etc ?

I know you think they are more 'bhangra' oriented, but I don't think so necessarily. I think bhangra scene in UK will die down as increasingly less of the young ones will identify with Panjabi music scene etc

What do they think about the Gore they meet ?

From what I've seen of many freshies is that they have chummy relationships with paks. Many are renting properties from them, and even socialise and live with other freshie paks. They seem ignorant of grooming and what's gone on here. They are also largely focused on making money over all else. They don't seem interested in much else.  They don't seem worried about implications for their kids unless some have a wife from here who is clued up. Many are now working for sullay too. 

I don't think they are more bhangra orientated than many apnay from here and Canada etc. 

I think they are either intimidated by goray or think the sun shines out of their bhunds. 

[Premi]

15 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

 

I think they are either intimidated by goray or think the sun shines out of their bhunds. 

I had a different impression from what I've seen in some random twitter and instagram posts from Freshies. 

They are less laloo/pappu than the average British Sikh (sadly)

[dalsingh101]

5 minutes ago, Premi said:

I had a different impression from what I've seen in some random twitter and instagram posts from Freshies. 

They are less laloo/pappu than the average British Sikh (sadly)

They are, but many seem sociopathic too. So if they could crawl up a gora's arse for opportunity purposes, they will.  

What did you see on twitter?

[Premi]

19 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

They are, but many seem sociopathic too. So if they could crawl up a gora's arse for opportunity purposes, they will.  

What did you see on twitter?

Just some random shite

 

I think the newer arrivals know England /Gore ain't what they once was, and don't have an inferior complex like our parents' generation might have

Btw, you ever done anything like this at work (lol )

 

 

[dalsingh101]

6 minutes ago, Premi said:

Btw, you ever done anything like this at work (lol ">)

I've laboured for roofers a few times in the past yeah.......lol

When you're working with goray on big sites, they get jealous and upset if you're better than them. They start giving their goray mates the edge then by giving more difficult work or sabotaging your own. 

[GurjantGnostic]

On 3/3/2016 at 2:12 PM, dalsingh101 said:

 

Hopefully dude gets our email about SWA. 

[Premi]

23 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Hopefully dude gets our email about SWA. 

He used to appear quite often on Sikh satellite channels here in the UK, but hardly seen him past 5 years 

 

[Premi]

55 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Hopefully dude gets our email about SWA.