singh11 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 1 minute ago, paapiman said: Bro, you need to listen to your body. Try this: Take the Ayurvedic medication as mentioned above and do the Jaaps. Try it for like 2-3 months. If your situation does not improve, then go the Psyhiatrist. Bhul chuk maaf Will try the Jaaps first 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, singh11 said: Think it was a councillor/psychiatrist but that was like 6 years ago CBT is good. Might be time to get re-assessed bro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh11 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 But the worst thing is at times to read any shabad/bani is really hard for me. My mind just feels fried/blocked. At times I just want to do simran, but I feel guilty for not doing Nitnem 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, Gunahgar said: Dear OP, It is very important that you make an appointment with your family physician. He will set you up with a Psychiatrist, They are the ones to make the diagnosis. Please, do not make the diagnosis on your own. OCD not only affects your Sikhi , it can also affect your daily life. Don't worry they wont start you on pills right away. They can guide you to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy & Meditation Sessions. This will also help with mind control. Also, does your family know about it. OCD is very real, please do not delay a doctors visit. You can also look up CBT on your own, if you like. There are many techniques that will help you. But please do see a psychiatrist. Bro, one of the medications prescribed is Prozak (not entirely sure about its spelling), for OCD, which has side effects. That happens, if a doctor decides that your case is severe. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh11 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 1 minute ago, dalsingh101 said: CBT is good. Might be time to get re-assessed bro. I did watch some CBT videos, but when I get bad thoughts related to Guru Ji or stuff against Gurmat I usually feel down because its building up bad karma, especially when my head says something bad about sants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh11 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, paapiman said: Bro, one of the medications prescribed is Prozak, for OCD, which has side effects. That happens, if a doctor decides that your case is severe. Bhul chuk maaf I also am severely underweight and don't eat properly. I'm thinking this is making me unfit to read bania, i don't think i need to see a doctor, as soon as i can do path properly i think it will get conquered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Just now, singh11 said: I did watch some CBT videos, but when I get bad thoughts related to Guru Ji or stuff against Gurmat I usually feel down because its building up bad karma, especially when my head says something bad about sants. Brother, negative thoughts will trouble you. This is normal. As long as you don't convert those thoughts into words/actions, you will be fine. Don't cling to those thoughts. Just ignore them. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, paapiman said: Bro, one of the medications prescribed is Prozak (not entirely sure about its spelling), for OCD, which has side effects. That happens, if a doctor decides that your case is severe. Bhul chuk maaf Paapiman, you fudhu, stop acting like a GP, let him get professional help instead of hitting him up with a bunch of suggestions when you don't have any medical experience. This is serious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, singh11 said: I also am severely underweight and don't eat properly. I'm thinking this is making me unfit to read bania, i don't think i need to see a doctor, as soon as i can do path properly i think it will get conquered. Have to tried to listen to bani via audio instead? Is that better? Do that instead if it helps. Brother you NEED to see a doctor asap. You need to see a specialist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 1 minute ago, dalsingh101 said: Paapiman, you fudhu, stop acting like a GP, let him get professional help instead of hitting him up with a bunch of suggestions when you don't have any medical experience. This is serious. Got the above info from my family doctor. Daas knows someone who has OCD. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 1 minute ago, paapiman said: Got the above info from my family doctor. Daas knows someone who has OCD. Bhul chuk maaf Encourage the brother to go to a specialist for God's sake. He's family also need to get knowledge and possibly support about the condition. I know people with OCD too, doesn't mean I jump in like specialist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Just now, dalsingh101 said: Encourage the brother to go to a specialist for God's sake. He's family also need to get knowledge and possibly support about the condition. Bro, let him try the Jaap. If the situation does not improve, he has no option left. He must go to a specialist/Psychiatrist. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 14 minutes ago, singh11 said: But the worst thing is at times to read any shabad/bani is really hard for me. My mind just feels fried/blocked. Just keep trying bro. Keep trying harder. Focus on pictures of Maharaaj. Print large pictures of Maharaaj (the ones you like) in your room and focus on them. Listen to Katha/Kirtan. It might be easier for you to focus in them, rather than doing Naam Simran. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, paapiman said: Bro, let him try the Jaap. If the situation does not improve, he has no option left. He must go to a specialist/Psychiatrist. Bhul chuk maaf Okay, but Singh11 seek help quickly too, so it doesn't get worse, it's the smart thing to do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Prozac ( Fluoxetine) [SSRI] is definitely a treatment , but it can be prescribed only by a Family physician or a Psychiatrist. It will take 4-6 weeks to work. He definitely needs a re-assessment especially since its affecting his daily life and his weight. I am all in favor of Jaap, but Jaap will lose it effect if mind is running around and lustful thoughts are attacking. He needs a quick assessment, and then he can continue on with the Jaap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 18 minutes ago, singh11 said: I also am severely underweight and don't eat properly. Why is that so? Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 33 minutes ago, singh11 said: Will try the Jaaps first Bro, take that Ayurvedic medication too, along with the Jaap. This is one of the reviews (Waheguru knows, if it is true or not) Quote This is really a Great medicine for anxiety and OCD cases which is an mental disorder. I really feel good after taking this from a week now.Thanks to Ayurveda and Divya Medha Vati. Unquote [1] [1] - http://www.matchless-gifts.com/store/products/Divya-Medha-Vati-(for-Memory-Loss-and-Improving-Intelligence)%3B-40-grams.html Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh11 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 36 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said: Have to tried to listen to bani via audio instead? Is that better? Do that instead if it helps. Brother you NEED to see a doctor asap. You need to see a specialist. I used to recite Japji Sahib along with audio, but kept pausing it as i missed some parts out. Still ended up taking a long time, I do listen to some banis but I dont pay attention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 @singh11 - Bro, how many symptoms (from the list below) are you facing with? Quote Washers are afraid of contamination. They usually have cleaning or hand-washing compulsions. Checkers repeatedly check things (oven turned off, door locked, etc.) that they associate with harm or danger. Doubters and sinners are afraid that if everything isn’t perfect or done just right something terrible will happen, or they will be punished. Counters and arrangers are obsessed with order and symmetry. They may have superstitions about certain numbers, colors, or arrangements. Hoarders fear that something bad will happen if they throw anything away. They compulsively hoard things that they don’t need or use. Unquote[1] [1] - http://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/obssessive-compulsive-disorder-ocd.htm Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh11 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 31 minutes ago, paapiman said: Just keep trying bro. Keep trying harder. Focus on pictures of Maharaaj. Print large pictures of Maharaaj (the ones you like) in your room and focus on them. Listen to Katha/Kirtan. It might be easier for you to focus in them, rather than doing Naam Simran. Bhul chuk maaf I do focus much better when listening to kirtan i enjoy, I might have to try getting representations of Guru Ji to try and focus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh11 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 32 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said: Okay, but Singh11 seek help quickly too, so it doesn't get worse, it's the smart thing to do. Just talking to the Sangat on here has made me feel better, I don't really talk about these issues cause I don't have any practicing Sikh friends, but i feel more focused now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh11 Posted March 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 27 minutes ago, paapiman said: Why is that so? Bhul chuk maaf I've always been underweight, but sometimes have trouble swallowing food but i am seeing a doctor for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh11 Posted March 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, paapiman said: @singh11 - Bro, how many symptoms (from the list below) are you facing with? Quote Washers are afraid of contamination. They usually have cleaning or hand-washing compulsions. Checkers repeatedly check things (oven turned off, door locked, etc.) that they associate with harm or danger. Doubters and sinners are afraid that if everything isn’t perfect or done just right something terrible will happen, or they will be punished. Counters and arrangers are obsessed with order and symmetry. They may have superstitions about certain numbers, colors, or arrangements. Hoarders fear that something bad will happen if they throw anything away. They compulsively hoard things that they don’t need or use. Unquote[1] [1] - http://www.helpguide.org/articles/anxiety/obssessive-compulsive-disorder-ocd.htm Bhul chuk maaf Wahsers, used to be chekers, definitely doubters and sinners and maybe hoarders with my kesh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 1 minute ago, singh11 said: Wahsers, used to be chekers, definitely doubters and sinners and maybe hoarders with my kesh. Bro, book an appointment with a Psychiatrist asap. Your case is not mild. You fall in more than 3 categories. You can keep doing the Jaap along with it. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 1 hour ago, singh11 said: Just talking to the Sangat on here has made me feel better, I don't really talk about these issues cause I don't have any practicing Sikh friends, but i feel more focused now. Bro, I encourage you to talk about your issues openly here. We are very welcoming. Writing can also be a form of therapy sometimes. Let it all out & stay focused! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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